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Horrace's Commandos
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| Dax_Horrace | Date: Friday, 10 Jun 2011, 4:53 PM | Message # 1 |
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| Alright, I figured I'd get this on record.
My request is for a specialized unit called Horrace's Commandos. I wanted the word Rangers but after being informed by God that such a name was taken, I decided to jump to Commandos. Though the Storm Commandos are around, Horrace's Commandos would have nothing to do with them.
Horrace's Commandos would be selected by Horrace himself and sent off to receive training. Upon graduation they'd be given a set of ARC armor (The whole thing, Pauldron, kama, etc etc) and would be placed aboard the Wolfenstein. I also realize that the reason that the Empire went away from that stuff was because they didn't want anything to remain from the Old Republic days. The color of the Pauldron would be white like Stormtrooper armor. The Kama would be white outside, and black inside.
Now then, a few things I'd like to clear up:
1. Unlike a few people, they won't appear out of thin air. They'd obviously be RPed in reasonable numbers.
2. They'd be the equivalent to the US Army Rangers. The only thing that makes them different from the Special Forces is that they have to follow regulation. (go figure)
3. They wouldn't be abused into a fashion if I got into a ground war. Obviously they'd be conduction the behind the scenes route.
4. Absolutely none of that Black Ops crap. They'd be well known aboard the Wolfenstein and obviously to Imperial High Command.
5. Because I like odd numbers, I'd throw up 5 here.
Spanks.
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Saturday, 11 Jun 2011, 9:12 PM | Message # 2 |
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| (From Wookieepedia: "The Rangers were established during the days of the Old Republic by the Senate in a move that authorized regional governments to create a Corps of Rangers charged with apprehending criminals and keeping the peace." I'm not God, merely a prophet of Sol Invictus).
I love the concept and the clarifications you have there. When you say 5, do mean 5 commandos total? Also, while I don't insist on this point, what would you think about having it be in the style of ARC Trooper armor (the kama, pauldron, even a similar color scheme if you want), but with the physical design of stormtrooper armor instead of clone trooper armor? The stormtrooper armor, helmet, etc. is just more up to date really. But either way, I vote to APPROVE.
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| Karth_DeQora | Date: Sunday, 12 Jun 2011, 4:49 PM | Message # 3 |
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| I also vote to APPROVE.
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| Jory_Carson | Date: Sunday, 12 Jun 2011, 8:14 PM | Message # 4 |
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| While I too vote to APPROVE I would like to wait for the answers to Jace's questions before I close this up.
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| Dax_Horrace | Date: Friday, 17 Jun 2011, 4:17 PM | Message # 5 |
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| Point 5 was a joke. It had no purpose. As for armor design, that is the look I was shooting for.
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Friday, 17 Jun 2011, 7:13 PM | Message # 6 |
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| Cool. Sooooo, around how many are we talking about?
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| Dax_Horrace | Date: Saturday, 18 Jun 2011, 11:18 AM | Message # 7 |
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| Ok, well according to Wookiepedia (as we all source from there), Infantry has 9,700 people on board. If you guys are willing to work with me, for the starting number until I feel like I can request more, that I trade 2,700 regular Stormtroopers for 2,700 Horrace Commandos.
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Saturday, 18 Jun 2011, 4:01 PM | Message # 8 |
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| My vote to approve still stands, but with 2,700 of them now I'm kind of curious―what is their modus operandi, exactly? Like, what's an average mission profile like (i.e. what kind of objectives do they usually have? How many per mission? etc.). While the number 5 was a joke, of course, the number 2,700 did take me a bit by surprise; with numbers like those, I think more of combat operations than special operations. Like I said, my vote to approve still stands, I'm just curious about this. I could be wrong, but it's my understanding there's a total of like 2,000 to 2,500 U.S. Army Rangers total, and keeping them all on one ship whether they're AD or not would strike me as a little odd. Especially if only small numbers of them (up to 50 or so, say, per mission) are necessary at any given time.
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| Dax_Horrace | Date: Saturday, 18 Jun 2011, 4:15 PM | Message # 9 |
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| Well my intend would be to use them for operations like finding hidden weapons caches, going in before the main force arrives, you know similar to that type of operation. Plus if need be, they could be used to interact with the locals as opposed to sending in Stormtroopers to talk to them. With US Army Rangers, there are a lot more of them then that. My whole intent was to use them for both combat operations and special operations... depending on the situation at hand, of course. Again all of management has known me a long time and know that I wouldn't use these guys in any type of shady detail. Determining how many to deploy in RP would have to be what kind of mission it is, really. And yes having this many in one ship is a little strange, but then again a Venator with all that room for fighters is also strange, along with that certain ship with all those Proton Torpedo tubes. But needless to say it all goes with me being fair.
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| Karth_DeQora | Date: Saturday, 18 Jun 2011, 6:52 PM | Message # 10 |
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| While I still support this request, I've always thought that Stormtroopers were the ones who "went in first" before the bulk of the Imperial army, though I suppose the films do little to show that they are, in fact, shock troopers and not the standard Imperial soldier, though if I'm wrong somebody please clarify.
Anyhow, yeah, my vote still stands, though maybe trimming the amount down a tad wouldn't hurt.
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Saturday, 18 Jun 2011, 7:29 PM | Message # 11 |
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| You're not wrong. The Imperial Army is made up of regular recruits (just as the Grand Army of the Republic was made up of mostly recruits, not clones, as the New Essential Chronology and other sources tell us. But I digress). As Wookieepedia explains, "Whereas the elite Stormtrooper Corps—which was separate from the Imperial Army—was employed for boarding actions and strategically important attacks, Imperial Army troopers were used to keep the peace on subject worlds, or to take planets that were not strategically important to the Empire." That said, however, the Empire is also known to have a vast multiplicity of "special" units similar to Horrace's Commandos (to name only a few, the Storm Commandos, Imperial Commandos, Imperial Navy Commandos, Imperial Navy Troopers, Special Navy Force Troopers, Shadow Troopers, Shadow Stormtroopers, Black Hole Stormtroopers, Black Hole Dark Troopers, Dark Troopers, Inquisitorium Dark Troopers, etc.). So while I would certainly say there are enough special units in the Empire, the Empire never seems to adopt this view so I remain fine with Horrace's Commandos, too. The cat is very much out of the bag.
That said, I'm okay with the 2,700 number.
Jace Varitek
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| OrionKarath | Date: Saturday, 18 Jun 2011, 9:18 PM | Message # 12 |
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| APPROVED
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