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Qual_OnokhaDate: Saturday, 25 Jun 2011, 11:54 PM | Message # 1
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x2 Modified Corellian Star Shuttles
- Added x2 Turbolaser Cannons
- Passenger Compartment modified to hold 4 Fighters

x1 Consular Class Space Cruiser
- Clone Wars Configuration
- x4 Turbolaser Cannons
- x2 Concussion Missile Launchers
 
Jace_VaritekDate: Monday, 27 Jun 2011, 11:52 AM | Message # 2
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So, as usual, the first thing before I get into the meat of this is to know where Qual is getting them from, please.

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Qual_OnokhaDate: Monday, 27 Jun 2011, 1:14 PM | Message # 3
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Qual would be purchasing them from used ship dealers or from previous owners around the galaxy. They would be purchased in the outer rim, which would make it easier to keep actual identities out of it, considering that outer rim dealers would be a bit more seedy in their business practices or wouldnt care much about who was buying their ships as long as they were being bought.

For funds, I'll link these three threads, each of which have either both parties agreeing on payment, or an understanding at the end that one party is paying Qual for items and he is supplying them to the second party.

In the Chuzalla System
Meeting with the Libs
To Pybus


Message edited by Qual_Onokha - Monday, 27 Jun 2011, 1:19 PM
 
OrionKarathDate: Monday, 27 Jun 2011, 4:06 PM | Message # 4
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If your only successful deals are funding these ships and their modifications as well, I'm assuming, complements, and hiring of crew... what is funding all these weapons deals and "gifts" you've been slinging around of rather expensive items?

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Karth_DeQoraDate: Monday, 27 Jun 2011, 4:18 PM | Message # 5
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Yeah, I've been wondering that myself.

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Karth_DeQoraDate: Monday, 27 Jun 2011, 4:19 PM | Message # 6
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Btw, Jaron, I've passed you in post count biggrin

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Jace_VaritekDate: Monday, 27 Jun 2011, 4:25 PM | Message # 7
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It's on now! Karth, Orion, I want a clean fight, gentlemen. Queensberry rules.

But yes, I too have wondered where Qual is getting all these weapons from. I hadn't intended to raise this question yet, but since Karth and Orion have done so I might as well. Please do explain, when you can, Qual's seemingly limitless access to rare and expensive weapons. I'm willing to be pretty lenient if there's a back story in his profile for how he's come by them, but if so I think I'd like to see a posted inventory of what exactly he has, and how many. I wouldn't ordinarily insist on this, but again, very rare, very expensive, and very advanced weapons are at issue here.


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Qual_OnokhaDate: Tuesday, 28 Jun 2011, 5:45 PM | Message # 8
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This is from Qual's bio

Bio:
Much of any kind of history of Qual is unknown. His exact species has never been located, making many believe he is the only one of his species, or a genetic mutation of another aquatic species. Much of his life has been spent in the shadows, using his charisma and intelligence to move other criminal organizations into proper places before setting them against one another. Always coming out on top in the end with less rivals and more credits.

Most of the funding that goes towards the acquisition of weapons have been from previous engagements where he worked with other criminal organizations. Of course these ones would have been small groups, gangs on planets fighting against each other, small system pirates that he pits against another system. The continued dealings with these small groups on their own wouldnt have much credits, but by joining the credits of each group he took down one after another in his early life would come out to a larger sum of credits. Half of which would stay in various store houses hidden across the galaxy. The rest would be used to purchase the gifts and weapons from thieves, pirates, and other small time smugglers that would come across the weapons in their own time. As well as having stockpiled what weapons where left over from the small pirate groups and gangs he's taken out in his earlier life.

Okay, after a night and day of working on the list. This is what I have come up with. Some numbers have been added to the more rare and expensive items, while other items were picked because of their more than likely "surplus" status at the end of the clone wars. This list was cut down from 135 Items, to the 50+ items it is currently.

Explosives
Adhesive Grenade
Breaching Grenades
Fragmentation Grenades
- C-12
- C-16
- C-22
Smoke Grenade
Stun Grenades
Thermal Detonators
- Case of x5 Sold to the Libs

Ship Weapons
Cluster Bomb
- Anti-Starfighter Cluster Bomb
Concussion Missile
Diamond Boron missile x35
- x24 Stolen by Simon Levi
- x3 Purchased by Rhygar Valencia
- x8 Remaining
(Hex Missiles removed due to Jace's change of mind)
Ion Bomb
Proton Torpedo
HE Missile
Nuclear Bomb/Missile x4
Turbolaser Cannons
Ion Cannons
Laser Cannons

Armor
Padded Armor
Cinnagar Plate Armor (Ceremonial)
Phase II Clone Trooper Armor (GAR Surplus)
Armor Weave

Personal Weapons
PLX-1 Portable Missile Launcher
- x2 Sold to the Libs
DC-15a Blaster Rifle
DC-15s Blaster Carbine
DC-15s Side Arm
DC-15x Sniper Rifle
DC-17 Side Arm
DC-17m Interchangable Weapon System x17
- x5 Sold to the Libs
E-60R Missile Launcher
E-5 Blaster Rifle
LJ-50 Concussion Rifle
LS-150 Heavy Accelerated Charged Particle Repeater
ZX Miniature Flame Projector
.48-Caliber Enforcer Pistol
Accelerated Charged Particle Array Gun
Accelerated Charged Particle Repeater Gun
Accelerated Charged Particle Scatter Gun

Emplacement Weapons
Double Barrel Repeating Blaster
EWHB-12 Heavy Repeating Blaster

Droids
FSD-6D Flying Surveillance Droid
B1 Battle Droid x100
- All Deactivated
HK-24 Series Assassin Droid x5
Assault Droid Mk I x10
Assault Droid MK IV x5
HK-50 Series Assassin Droid x4
HK-51 Series Assassin Droid x4
Pit Droid x50

Wine
Alderaan Wine
Blossom Wine
Corellian Wine
Zeltron Spiced Wine
Korriban Wine
Mandalorian Wine

Accessories/Misc.
Blaster Power Packs


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Jace_VaritekDate: Tuesday, 05 Jul 2011, 9:33 PM | Message # 9
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So, in terms of the ship numbers, I'd be willing to APPROVE of either of the following:

(01) Modified Corellian Star Shuttle
- Added 2 Turbolaser Cannons
- Passenger Compartment modified to hold 4 Fighters

(01) Consular Class Space Cruiser
- Clone Wars Configuration

or

(02) Modified Corellian Star Shuttles
- Added 2 Turbolaser Cannons
- Passenger Compartment modified to hold 4 Fighters

And I vote to APPROVE Qual's armory as follows:

Explosives
(20) Adhesive Grenade
(∞) Breaching Grenades
(∞) Fragmentation Grenades
(∞) Smoke Grenade
(15) Stun Grenades
(15) Thermal Detonators (case of 5 sold to The Libs, pending approval)

Ship Weapons
(15) Anti-Starfighter Cluster Bomb
(30) Concussion Missile
(08) Diamond Boron missile (24 Stolen by Simon Levi, 3 purchased by Rhygar Valencia, pending approval)
(03) Hex Missiles (2 purchased by Rhygar Valencia, pending approval)*
(10) Ion Bomb
(18) Proton Torpedo
(02) HE Missile
(01) Nuclear Bomb/Missile*
(20) Turbolaser Cannons
(25) Ion Cannons
(20) Laser Cannons

Armor
(∞) Padded Armor
(20) Cinnagar Plate Armor (Ceremonial)
(160) Phase II Clone Trooper Armor (GAR Surplus)
(05) Armor Weave

Personal Weapons
(13) PLX-1 Portable Missile Launcher (2 sold to The Libs, pending approval)
(∞) DC-15a Blaster Rifle
(∞) DC-15s Blaster Carbine
(∞) DC-15s Side Arm
(∞) DC-15x Sniper Rifle
(∞) DC-17 Side Arm
(∞) DC-17m Interchangable Weapon System (5 sold to The Libs, pending approval)
(20) E-60R Missile Launcher
(∞) E-5 Blaster Rifle
(15) LJ-50 Concussion Rifle
(15) LS-150 Heavy Accelerated Charged Particle Repeater
(15) ZX Miniature Flame Projector
(30) .48-Caliber Enforcer Pistol
(20) Accelerated Charged Particle Array Gun
(20) Accelerated Charged Particle Repeater Gun
(30) Accelerated Charged Particle Scatter Gun

Emplacement Weapons
(15) Double Barrel Repeating Blaster
(10) EWHB-12 Heavy Repeating Blaster

Droids
(25) FSD-6D Flying Surveillance Droid
(100) B1 Battle Droid (all deactivated)
(50) Pit Droid

Wine
(∞) Alderaan Wine
(2 casks, or roughly 16 bottles) Blossom Wine
(∞) Corellian Wine
(∞) Zeltron Spiced Wine
(6 casks, or roughly 48 bottles) Mandalorian Wine

Accessories/Misc.
(∞) Blaster Power Packs

* I'd prefer if you went into specifics on when and how Qual acquired these particular items in his career.

And note, where I use the ∞ sign I don't literally mean an infinite supply. I just think these items are common enough you can probably throw them around for a long while before there's any need to revisit the list. Finally, do make sure the RPers you're selling to are aware of this. If they don't request what you're selling to them, we have to consider the transaction as having not taken place, so neither the customer has them nor has Qual sold them. Thus I've added "pending approval" on the sales you've mentioned in this list.

I'm willing to be flexible on these numbers, but do note that although I've omitted some of the items you requested, there are still 829 specifically listed provisions here and many, many more with the ∞ sign. All told, I think it's pretty generous considering it's all coming from a profile, rather than having been acquired in the actual RP.

P.S. To the other managers, you're welcome.


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Qual_OnokhaDate: Tuesday, 05 Jul 2011, 9:49 PM | Message # 10
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Okay, first, I'll take this set up as mentioned above.

(01) Modified Corellian Star Shuttle
- Added 2 Turbolaser Cannons
- Passenger Compartment modified to hold 4 Fighters

(01) Consular Class Space Cruiser
- Clone Wars Configuration

Second, for the numbers on the list, I was hesitant at putting numbers on most things, beyond the more rarer items. I think what was given is indeed generous and fair. So I wont be fighting the numbers at all.

Third. The detail for the acquiring the Nuke and the Hex missiles I can come up with. I was thinking that it would have been during the Clone Wars. Qual would be working for what ever side would be the most profitable for him at the time. I could see him running weapons for the GAR in the early days of the Clone Wars when they were having a rougher time acquiring weapons and such compared to the large corporate driven CIS army. In turn this would give Qual a good sum of credits, and could give him the chance to look at the "captured" weapons of the CIS that the GAR got their hands on. A bribe here or there, and an altered ledger later, and Qual would be the proud owner of a Nuke and a few Hex Missiles.
 
Karth_DeQoraDate: Wednesday, 06 Jul 2011, 5:57 PM | Message # 11
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I'm sorry, Qual, but while I approve of pretty much everything else, I do NOT trust anyone with a nuke.

So the nuke is a DENY for me, and I vote to APPROVE the rest.


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OrionKarathDate: Wednesday, 06 Jul 2011, 11:21 PM | Message # 12
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APPROVE of Jace's numbers.

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Karth_DeQoraDate: Sunday, 10 Jul 2011, 12:43 PM | Message # 13
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APPROVED

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