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| Sevarius_Anderson | Date: Monday, 23 Apr 2012, 1:22 AM | Message # 1 |
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| I'd like to request the following Autos for the following conclusions.
Savrek Eclipse - After the Eclipse Pirates first run through on Monor II and resulting jump to hyperspace, they report back to the Empire and continue to work as Imperial Privateers for the Empire.
Vil Haran - Instead of killing off Vil, he is freed from the prison ship by Rath's troops. After working for Rath for a time, Vil manages to get the trackers removed and is lost in the outer rim.
Rasuk Mithren - Rasuk is hired to head the Kuriyoshi Estate security on Chandaar.
Lord Zarcaine Kuriyoshi - With his wife Amneris Kuriyoshi taking her sick Father, and her mother to Vjun to stay with Oriel, Zarcaine shuts himself off from the Galaxy in the Kuriyoshi Estate and isnt heard from.
Qual Onokha - After the events in the Tammuz Sector and his deals with the Libs, he cuts contact with the Libs and disappears into the outer rim.
Mrash - Remains the Senator of Trandosha and Lord of the Sector. Slavery of the Wookies increases under his watch and the area remains loyal to the Empire.
Colonel Issacs - The colonel and his men fade into obscurity as they settle down to the farming life and are forgotten about by the Empire and presumed dead.
Aaron Fox - Aaron nationalizes EPIC and turns it over to the Empire.
Captain Deamora - Is folded into the "Special Operations" group and works in the Outer Rim
Moff Pike - Is reassigned
Darres Verilia - Remains in position in the Corporate Sector on his current mission.
Xalden - Pulls the bounty from Jamie the Hutt, having not known he was pregnant, and has the bounty on his own head pulled as well. He remains on Cyborrea with his shop on Sionia and pulls the bounties on the Blackfire Contacts and lives a life of obscurity.
Line Captain Anderson
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Message edited by Sevarius_Anderson - Monday, 23 Apr 2012, 1:25 AM |
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| Jaron | Date: Wednesday, 25 Apr 2012, 7:24 PM | Message # 2 |
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| Before I consider ruling on this, I'd like to hear from Jace and Karth on this... and I also have a few questions.
1.) Why are you including within this auto request, things that do not need to be autoed? (i.e. Verilia)
2.) Why are you asking to auto events that could be RPed out, and have in fact been initiated by other players? (i.e. Xalden)
3.) Why are you trying to skip existing threads and RP, or request contradictory autos to that of involved players that have already request such action upon stagnant threads that have seen no activity on your part? (i.e. Haran)
Jaron Park
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| Sevarius_Anderson | Date: Wednesday, 25 Apr 2012, 9:06 PM | Message # 3 |
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| 1.) I dont plan on using Verilia anymore, by autoing that he remain on his mission in the Corporate Sector, it takes him off my hands completely.
2.) To be honest, Xalden was more of a spur of the moment character and I didn't really have anything planned with or for him.
3.) The Haran request was to out right kill the character, which I'm against since it wasn't going to serve anything plot wise on a large scale. This auto with Vil would place him under Rath for a time, which is what Rath wanted, until Vil finds a way to get out from under his thumb.
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| Jaron | Date: Wednesday, 25 Apr 2012, 9:13 PM | Message # 4 |
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| You requested the account to be deleted on Vil Haran, which was no fulfilled for the simple fact that Management wishes to maintain posts as a matter of record. However, since you have no intention to RP the character ever again, should Management not give a satisfying outcome to the individual who wishes to actually RP, versus someone who is quitting the character for no real reason other than things didn't work out but yet demands an outcome that works for them anyways?
Jaron Park
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| Jaron | Date: Wednesday, 25 Apr 2012, 9:22 PM | Message # 5 |
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| And for clarification, I was asking those questions in general, not aimed at specific characters. I.e., or "in other words" were marked as such as an example, which I did so banking upon the common mistake of interpreting i.e. as "in example", rather than the appropriate notation of e.g.; lesson learned. So, let me rephrase...
1.) Why are you including within this auto request, things that do not need to be autoed?
Applicable characters are: Savrek Eclpse, Darres Verilia, Ali'Zarin Deamora (arguable)
2.) Why are you asking to auto events that could be RPed out, and have in fact been initiated by other players?
Applicable characters are: Savrek Eclipse, Vil Haran, Rasuk Mithren, Zarcaine Kuriyoshi, Qual Onokha, Mrash (who is no in fact Senator, since he has not been sworn in), Issacs and the Irregulars, Aaron Fox, Ali'Zarin Deamora, Kristoph Pike, Darres Verilia
Three is in fact directly aimed at Vil Haran, so that does not require reiteration.
Jaron Park
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| Rath-Deschain | Date: Thursday, 26 Apr 2012, 8:15 AM | Message # 6 |
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| Jaron, Jaron, I fancy myself a reasonable man, so if I may interject here, and I hope I'm not (to use military terms) stepping on anyone's dick, offer two choices at least in regards to Vil Haran and Deschain's play:
1) That Vil Haran and Deschain continue their play as normal and it plays out however it ends up
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2) Deschain's men free Vil Haran and in the process, he attempts to escape and kill one of them but is subdued. With his recapture, the ship he was on is destroyed to cover the 'break out' and Haran is brought to a secret location where under a combination of drugs and torture by Deschain, he leads the High Inquisitor and Deschain's Purifiers to the True Crusaders. A battle is fought against the True Crusaders and they are killed to a man. Vil Haran is able to 'escape' as per Deschain's doing, but during the course of torture, loses the first and middle finger on both hands as Deschain wishes to 'take away his method of fighting the Empire.'
Naturally, this may seem extreme, but mind you, if an entire prosthetic hand can be built for Luke Skywalker, four prosthetic fingers shouldn't be too hard, and at worst case, Vil Haran has his life and work to rebuild his forces.
Rath Deschain
High Inquisitor
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| Sevarius_Anderson | Date: Thursday, 26 Apr 2012, 9:18 AM | Message # 7 |
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| Savrek Eclipse - The Eclipse Pirates had been contracted out by the Empire to check out Monor II, which they were unable to accomplish fully because of the forces that were put there. As they had been promised to have their record cleared by working with the Empire, they would report on their initially scouting of the system and their inability to get more detailed scans or fully finish their priority of damaging any of the facilities, though were able to finish their mission in sending the statement that had been given to them by the Imperial operative. They would return and continue to work as Imperial Privateers, futher distancing themselves from other pirates and criminals.
I'm requesting an auto for Savrek because I've already got a character that fills the primary role of that this character was set up as. That role being filled already by Rall who will soon realize that it is too late for a new reemergance of the CIS, though not enough for a new rebellion to get rid of the Empire. This would include him acting in pirate actions, which is what Eclipse was for. Which would mean that I'd have two of the same kind of characters in piracey, and would eventually see them overlap at some point in time.
Vil Haran - I will agree to the original request in which Vil Haran attempts his escape from his capture and in the process is killed in his own escape effort. However, if Rath continues to insist on the torturing of Vil for information, I must make it clear that Vil has no information on the current location of his forces. Said forces would then figure out that their leader was killed, which would cause them to flee their base at Albata Ing, taking their forces into the Unknown Regions, and seeking revenge against the Empire, would also realize the need for allies and would join with Rall's new rebellion efforts and join the remaining forces under Rall's command.
Lord Zarcaine Kuriyoshi - As this character was made specifically for the Cronese Mandate, which has an auto put in place on it already, there is no more use for this character. As I've stated, his wife leaving the Mandate for Vjun would leave him feeling betrayed and rather than acting on that, he would withdraw from the Galaxy and lock the Kuriyoshi estate to ensure that he is not disturbed by anyone to be left to his own devices.
Rasuk Mithren - Since the two characters that Rasuk was created to be a bodyguard for, Darres and Zarc, no longer being used, and him not being really accepted by Amneris, and would more than likely not be able to find a place in the Empire due to the Human High Culture, he would be hired on by Zarc as the head of the security of the Kuriyoshi estate. While probably being able to rp it out, it would be an entire one sided thread of my rping by myself.
Qual Onokha - Again, rping out the possible ending of this character would leave me in a one sided thread as it would merely be him just jumping his ships out into the Outer Rim and disappearing. He would break ties with the Libs, by not contacting them or accepting any contact from them, as well as just becoming nothing more than a minor foot note as being a weapons dealer screwed over by the Empire Loyalist.
Mrash - Having already taken the oath of the Senate, though not fully accepted by the Chair, which he has already called for the chair to close it up, would remain in a seat of power within his Sector, seeing that slavery raids by the Trandoshans esculate to meet rising Imperial needs for labor. He would react to Senator Domon's investigation in his personal past by sending his own representatives to file slander counter-suits and bog the Senator's claims down in years of legal cases.
Colonel Issacs - This would again be a one side thread to rp out as it would mainly consist of Issacs and his men settling down into the farmer life and laying low, not making themselves stand out to bounty hunters or anyone that would be looking for them. They would use the farm to hide themselves and keep themselves quiet and remain in a quiet life for the rest of their days.
Aaron Fox - With Darres handing the EPIC company over to Aaron Fox and with Darres stepping down as a Moff to answer the orders given to him to keep an eye on the Corporate Sector, Aaron Fox would be in full control of the company, and seeing its already got a bad reputation to its name, Aaron would see that it would be for the best to nationalize the company and put it into the hands of the Empire. Again, rping this out would really be a one sided thread.
Captain Deamora - Since his original concept has been taken over by Anderson, and having to rewrite the character, and having General Vorusk starting to serve somewhat of a similar function as Deamore, this auto is to really just make it known that Deamora would be turned into an NPC working for Imperial Special Operations, for use by the Management to claim him as an NPC in missions that other PCs are sent on.
Moff Pike - Cant really think of much of an explination for this character beyond him being reassigned to another command that would benefit from his experience and command.
Darres Verilia - Already having been taken out of the picture with his command to take part in his current mission in the Corporate Sector, this would pull him completely out of the picture and keep him in place in the Corporate Sector and reporting back to Imperial High command on his mission from time to time.
Xalden - With Xalden there's really not any real good explination I can give for it. That's what has caused me to come to this point. Xalden would pull the bounty on Jamie the Hutt, not knowing at the time that he was pregnant. The forces at Sionia would be called back and the possibility of a base being opened there abandoned. With the vessels from the Blackfire Contracts appearing at Cyborrea and knowing his forces would be unable to fully deal with them and still having the price on his head. Xalden would flee Cyborrea and leave his palace, after destroying it to prevent anyone else from gaining his palace. He'd send his forces off to the Besadii Clan, as Xalden would flee into the Outer Rim and settle into a life of obscurity.
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Message edited by Sevarius_Anderson - Thursday, 26 Apr 2012, 9:27 PM |
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| Rath-Deschain | Date: Saturday, 28 Apr 2012, 11:28 PM | Message # 8 |
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| I'm willing to acquiesce to Carl's work on Vil Haran. We can forgo the torture and all that and simply leave it that he was killed while attempting to escape. Simple and easy.
Rath Deschain
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Saturday, 28 Apr 2012, 11:30 PM | Message # 9 |
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| Personally speaking, I'd like to see the RP with Xalden be played out fully at Cyborrea. There's no guarantee that Xalden would be able to flee and easily destroy his palace before he would be captured. As well, Blackfire is interested in attempting to disable and capture Xalden's vessels, so that leaves options open there, unless an auto can be agreed upon.
Alyn Stark
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Monday, 30 Apr 2012, 7:49 PM | Message # 10 |
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| Autos are and, as far as I know, have always been employed in one of two situations; 1.) the participants in a thread mutually agree to forego RP and auto the thread along, or 2.) one of the participants is no longer present or able to RP his/her character so there's an auto of the minimum necessary actions to move a thread along. We're dealing here with the second case, and in this case I think it's proper for the auto to favor the participant who is continuing to RP rather than the participant who isn't. Realize, then, that if this is a matter of declining to RP as a character that you could RP as, but simply don't want to, the auto should be, most likely, to the detriment of your character. This principle is necessary to emphasize that the auto is to be used as a matter of 1.) mutual agreement or 2.) necessity, and ideally not by one player's choice.
Quick housekeeping note--Verilia, Deamora, Fox, Isaacs, Mrash, Qual, Mithren, and Kuriyoshi don't need to be in this request; in most of these cases, not RPing as these characters and not mentioning them again accomplishes their "removal" from the RP for all intents and purposes. Or you could do the one-sided threads that you mentioned at your own convenience (which I recommend--more RP is always the better option), or, if you don't want to, you can make this same sort of note about them on the OOC forum as an "FYI" post. Either way, I don't see a need for management involvement because these particular characters aren't in conflict with anyone else at this time.
This leaves us with Pike, Haran, and Xalden. If the Imperial characters have no objection to re-assigning Moff Pike (this is, after all, an IC decision, not an OOC one), I APPROVE of this auto for the sake of simplicity. With Vil Haran in Deschain's custody, what happens to him if the character isn't RP'd is Deschain's prerogative; it appears he's accommodated you on this, so I don't suppose management is needed here.
As for Xalden, it occurs to me that one of three things can happen; 1.) Xalden can continue RPing and do what he's able to do, 2.) Xalden can not post and Blackfire can continue to post every 4 days there's no response, or 3.) We can come up with an auto that would have more-or-less the same outcome as 2. Since the content of your requested auto is largely things you could do yourself, I'd recommend doing that. Moreover, saying the bounty was a misunderstanding and lifting it could open up the option of calling for Hutt reinforcements to help defend against the outsider (Blackfire) attack on what is, ultimately, a Cartel asset--that is, if Xalden has been paying a percent of his profits to the Cartel, they should come to defend his operation, in my view. No one would pay protection money if they're not at least protected.
Jace Varitek
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| Jamie_the_Hutt | Date: Wednesday, 02 May 2012, 2:53 AM | Message # 11 |
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| I think it should be noted that Xalden is also in combat with Jamie the Hutt's rebels at Sionia, and if the issue is going to be autoed, I'd like to have that taken into account as it's fully my intention to 'Captivate, Kill or Destroy' the vessel and it's crew and impress them in the service of the People's Front if possible, the Sionia store would be looted.
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| Xalden | Date: Wednesday, 02 May 2012, 6:40 PM | Message # 12 |
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| I'll be dealing with Xalden, and next time Jamie, please refrain from posting in a request that you've no reason to post in (ie. Rall Request #3)
Xalden the Black
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| Jaron | Date: Friday, 04 May 2012, 10:47 PM | Message # 13 |
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| Jace's moderation on the subject is...
APPROVED
Let's move on, and cease this non-sense.
Jaron Park
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