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Health Insurance for New Republic citizens
Should health care be nationalized?
1. Yes [ 0 ] [0.00%]
2. No [ 5 ] [83.33%]
3. Only for upper class [ 1 ] [16.67%]
4. Only for middle class/lower class [ 0 ] [0.00%]
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Tremaine_FowlkesDate: Tuesday, 17 Mar 2009, 10:30 AM | Message # 1
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Greetings,

I'm proposing that health insurance should be nationalized, because there are still a lot of New Republic citizens that do not have health insurance. A lot of citizens couldn't afford one, and it led to a worse situation because they weren't able to pay in full for perhaps a surgery or treatments for a disease. I believe that each citizen should be provided with the best health insurance they could have. This is why I'm proposing that they use a health insurance similar to what we, Senators and Representatives, have.

Tremaine Fowlkes,
Senator of Mowgle


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Message edited by Tremaine_Fowlkes - Tuesday, 17 Mar 2009, 10:34 AM
 
Simon_LeviDate: Tuesday, 17 Mar 2009, 12:25 PM | Message # 2
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Im not even going to go into how much this would cost, not mere billions of credits, but trillions upon trillions. Vastly too expensive an undertaking for our government to take. However, I would highlight that planetary governments are free to tax their citizens and give them healthcare, and is within their mandate. It does seem somewhat out of the galactic governments mandate however.

Moff of the Tammuz Sector
 
DannilBoVarDate: Tuesday, 17 Mar 2009, 7:14 PM | Message # 3
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"I would have to agree with Senator Kruus of Neimoidia that the task with which you have set before this Galactic Body is indeed beyond the scope of it's capabilities when considered from a monetary point of view. While I must similarly disagree with Senator Kruus that it is the mandate of the this Senate to allocate funding and take care of the health care system (should the system be indeed nationalized) I would otherwise be agreement with the good Senator as to the other arguments made. Nonetheless, while this is a good bill in theory; it does not seem practical in practice (insofar as the good Senator from Neimoidia has pointed out). Therefore, the InterGalactic Mining Core respectfully moves against this legislation."

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Gustav_EmerestDate: Wednesday, 18 Mar 2009, 10:57 AM | Message # 4
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If I had a credit for every time Senator Tremaine Fowlkes proposed such grandiose, far fetched and blatantly non comprehensive bill he has attempted to pass and utterly failed like a lead starship with propellers for propulsion, I would almost have enough credits to finance a bill of this spending magnitude. And by almost I would as far off as a Gungan would be from ever winning respect.

I quite literally awoke from the dead spinning in my grave as soon as this grotesque piece of Puda excrement disguised as a bill enter the Senate floor. I then muster all the strength a dead man could muster and wrestle with the armies of Corellian hell to resurrect myself just to investigate what fresh hell was brought to the senate floor that caused me, Senator Gustav Emerest, to convulse so violently from the eternal slumber for which my soul should have been eternally laid to rest only to find that the pains of reading this bill surpassing any agony that awaits those whose mortal souls are destined for the underworld. (As you might have heard I have had a recent brush with death for I was so clinically for a total of two days)

I am resisting, (with all my might I might add) the urge to gouge my old and tired eyes from my sockets and scream to the heavens to take me away from this wretched world that has spawned an exaggerated buffoon such as yourself. My only hope is that the force can take pity on us all for it's blatant mistake it should have aborted years ago and yet seems to busy to get around to it (yes I'm talking about you Tremaine Fowlkes)

Now I must apologize for my disrespectful remarks but the sheer asinine nature of your bills, which spells out no means of funding this kind of project or even how this supposed health plan would look like, makes finding the nearest high rise, jumping off of it to one's own impending doom with a sign that say please save my pet rock from animal abuse as a statement against abusing lifeless objects, MORE PRODUCTIVE THEN THIS BILL. You would quite literally have to first nationalize all insurance companies and take on all the investments that all those insurance companies have made. Change all the loan terms for the clients who pull out the loans to ridiculous levels that they could not hope to pay slowing down and bankrupting businesses to the point of hemorrhaging money like a man stab in the heart, which leads to an economic collapse that destroys our ability to even pay for our own health care let alone our constituents, then tell the people oh look we don't have the money but if you need a loan we will give you a standardized loan that eliminates the risk to us thus the risk to you which makes you have to jump through more bureaucratic red tape then before you can get anything done and slows down all business production as we know it. SO now we have to nationalize the banks as well so as to streamline things to where it is a least as fast as the DSV lines that everyone goes to to get their license. Thus forcing the Republic to function not only as an insurance agency but a political bank as well where the people can step in and argue HEY I DESERVE AND EQUAL SHARE OF THAT MONEY OR I AIN'T VOTING FOR YOU. Which in the end would force me Senator Gustav Emerest to end my reputation as the Man of the People to the MAN. And I'm not willing to tell people how to spend their money when the same government takes it away from them in the first place.

Respectfully Senator Gustav Emerest, Coruscant

 
Darwin_SkyDate: Wednesday, 18 Mar 2009, 12:37 PM | Message # 5
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I'm deeply offended by your comments. All I am trying to do is to find ways to help the galaxy become a better place. Instead of being a greedy, heartless bureaucrat that only cares for his or her own profits, I am doing what I think is the best for people. I am not here to suck up to the Senate in order to give myself a personal gain like a lot of greedy, corrupted senators and representatives would do. I am here because I represent the voice of the people, I am here to provide what they need. I am here to ensure that their needs are being acknowledged.

Before you go on criticizing me again, think of what I'm trying to provide. Next time, instead of trying to criticizing me or someone else like an idiot you are, simply vote in support or against a bill that I or someone else is going to propose sometime in the future. If you cannot do that, then find a staple and use it to keep your mouth shut. After you do that, don't do anything else.

Good day,

Senator Fowlkes of Mowgle

 
Tremaine_FowlkesDate: Wednesday, 18 Mar 2009, 12:39 PM | Message # 6
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((Sorry, I meant to post as this character. It was automatically loggged in as Darth Acheron and I didn't notice it.))

Tremaine Fowlkes
Senator of Telos IV
 
Senator_CambristDate: Wednesday, 18 Mar 2009, 5:47 PM | Message # 7
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As "a greedy, heartless bureaucrat who cares only for his own profit," I take offense to the Senator from Mowgle's remarks. That said, I must oppose this measure for the reasons that have already been cited. The cost would simply be astronomical, and would pay for the expense of your last measure 30, 40 or even 50 times over.

Senator Cambrist, Brentaal
Chairman of the Commerce Council


 
Eli_FitzgeraldDate: Thursday, 19 Mar 2009, 11:32 AM | Message # 8
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Senator Emerest, your are called to order, and reminded that your comments must be respectful. We may have honest differences of opinion with Senator Fowlkes as regards his means, but there's no need to belittle his intent, or him personally. That is not conduct becoming of a Senator, let alone the Chair of the Senate. We are relieved at your recovery, but again, keep your remarks restrained and civil.

As regards this bill, I praise Senator Fowlkes for his intent but I must agree with the other Senators' criticisms of the measure and its cost. I do not believe it is the New Republic's responsibility, or even within its capability to insure the health care of the thousands of trillions of sentients within its borders. This is a matter much more practically addressed by specific worlds, to provide for their specific citizens, and I maintain that reducing spending and keeping taxes low is the best means to your end.

The vote is closed, and the bill is defeated unanimously.

Eli Fitzgerald
Chief of State


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Gustav_EmerestDate: Friday, 20 Mar 2009, 9:46 PM | Message # 9
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My comments still stand. My intent in those remarks is very clear. Propose a bill Tremaine Folwkes, not ideas. Your ideas are a needless waste of time for this senate. Make something more comprehensive or I will...

Respectfully,

Senator Gustav Emerest, Coruscant

 
Eli_FitzgeraldDate: Saturday, 21 Mar 2009, 12:20 PM | Message # 10
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Moving on.

Eli Fitzgerald
Chief of State


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