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Regarding the Neimoidian Killings
Drayson_de_VegaDate: Tuesday, 06 Jan 2009, 1:24 PM | Message # 1
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I must offer my condolences to Senator Kruus for the murders that have occurred of late on his world. To be so innocent of any wrongdoing, and to be slayed in so grotesque a manner (especially by those we entrust to protect and serve us), is surely horrifying beyond any recompense. I would have liked to have extended my congratulations to Mr. Kruus, for having only so recently achieved the title of Senator to his homeworld, but of course this week's events must necessarily lend their severity to our proceedings here today.

While I do not necessarily and endemically fault the Jedi Academy for the failure of all of its fallen students, the fact remains that we simply cannot be tolerant of a Jedi Knight (or in fact a "Dark Jedi," if this is what he claims himself to be, I admit I am not entirely familiar with the distinctions) to rampage from one world to the next, slaughtering innocent civilians.

I assume that the Jedi order will indeed cooperate fully with the investigation into these murders, and will of course provide any information it has as to the suspect's whereabouts, but nonetheless I would like to ask that Senator Kruus join me in demanding that Chief of State Fitzgerald ensure that the person who committed these atrocities will be tried in Republic courts, unlike certain other individuals such as, famously, Kyp Durron, who may have been "forgiven" by the Jedi Academy, but not by his victims or their families.

From the office of the Chairman,
Drayson Loran (R-OSC)


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Eli_FitzgeraldDate: Tuesday, 06 Jan 2009, 1:29 PM | Message # 2
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(this post was originally made by Exar Ray, on 21 December 2008)

This unlikely turn of events troubles me greatly. Indeed throughout the course of time and history of the Jedi Order, have we seen countless numbers of them betraying both the Order and the Republic and subcoming to their own hate. And such a time presents itself now, as we have not just a 'Dark Jedi', but a renegade as such. And we all can atest those that are gifted in the force, what dangers it can bring to the rest of us unable to combat it. I give my sincere condolences to everyone whom has suffered because of this renegade. However justice must fly, and even a renegade, Dark Jedi or not, must pay for his/her crimes against those they took an oath to protect. Therefore I back Representative Loran and equally demand that something be done here... before more death arises.

Exar Ray
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Tremaine_FowlkesDate: Tuesday, 06 Jan 2009, 1:38 PM | Message # 3
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I would like to offer my condolences to Senator Kruss and his world as well. It's terrible when something unexpected like this happen, especially to innocent civilians. It's also more horrifying when one of our own have turned against us. I believe this "Dark Jedi" poses a danger to every sentient beings in the galaxy if he is not to be stopped. All I can propose is that we notify every Republic system of this, and raise their awareness. Meanwhile, we would better have the Jedi on this matter. There should be a small task force accompanying someone from the Jedi Order in charge of this matter. There's no telling what this young man can do.

Tremaine Fowlkes,
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Eli_FitzgeraldDate: Tuesday, 06 Jan 2009, 1:43 PM | Message # 4
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(this post was originally made by Dannil Bo'var on 24 December 2008)

I too believe in justice; but I will not go so far as to say that he must solely be tried within Republic Courts. It has been proven on more than one occassion that those placed in the custody of the Jedi do go through a successful rehabilitation. To this degree I believe we should pursue a cooperation with the Jedi Order in finding and detaining this supposed "Dark Jedi".

It is not a matter of having the Jedi Order cooperate with the Republic, as the Order has proven itself most cooperative in the past. Rather, it is a matter of reasoning between the Order and the Republic on the best way to handle the issue. This supposed "Dark Jedi" -should- stand for the crimes he has commited, but to that regard I do not say that we should simply demand the Order to cooperate with us and not take part. I fully welcome any help the Order has in finding and detaining this individual, as well as any help they will have in his rehabilitation in the future. Once he had served the penance for his crimes.

Dannil Bo'Var
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Drayson_de_VegaDate: Tuesday, 06 Jan 2009, 1:55 PM | Message # 5
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With respect to Senator Fowlkes and especially Representative Bo'var, who is a good man with whom I am usually agreed, I must however strongly disagree with you both in this instance. With regard to Senator Fowlkes, I do not believe that someone from the Jedi Order should be "in charge of this matter," as this would be a clear conflict of interest. Would I prefer the cooperation of the Jedi in this investigation? Of course, but as we have seen with the case of Mr. Durron, the Academy does not have any sort of standard of justice that its criminals, murderers and deviants can or will be held accountable to.

Let us remember that Kyp Durron claimed, at the time that he vaporized the entire population of the planet Carida, that he was somehow possessed by the spirit of an ancient Sith cultist. Clearly, the man was suffering from some sort of delusion or insanity, and yet this madman walks somewhere among us to this day, immune from prosecution because he was "remorseful" and the Jedi "forgave" him.

I mean this with all due respect to the Jedi, who are indeed our allies and who, I'm sure we would all agree, do great charitable works throughout the galaxy and deserve our support in such endeavors (and if I sound glib, then I do indeed apologize). But when it comes to the enforcement of the law; of justice, I simply cannot trust the Jedi in this regard. I must disagree with Representative Bo'var, that for some people there is no rehabilitation, and there is no proper penance for the murder of dozens (or, as with Mr. Durron, millions) of innocent people but the death penalty.

But of course, as neither I nor the New Republic support the death penalty, I would suggest to Senators Fowlkes and Bo'var that the only proper sentence for a Kyp Durron or a Darwin Sky (having been duly convicted in a court of law, of course), is to be removed from society and placed into indefinite confinement, so as to protect the public from their murderous tendencies. I would close with this point; that even a Jedi who murders innocent civilians, women and children, should be treated just as equally - and just as harshly - as the worst Imperial war criminals, under the law.

Again, I call upon the Chief of State to give us his word that this Darwin Sky, once apprehended, will be tried in legitimate, impartial, New Republic courts.

From the office of the Chairman,
Drayson Loran (R-OSC)

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(this was originally posted by Senator Kruus, on December 26, 2008)

This was indeed an outrage, a senseless, violent and unprovoked killing of Neimoidian Citizens!

I believe this man, Jedi, Renegade Jedi, Dark Jedi, Multicoloured Jedi should be brought swiftly to Justice. Notice though, how in conjunction with all these terms we have Jedi, perhaps this raises the question.

If an individual has a very powerful talent, giving him superhuman captability that is potentially destructive, should it be left to a monastic order to educate them and train them?

I think certainly an inquiry should be raised into the effectiveness of the Jedi Order's training strategies and what exactly they are doing that causes so many Jedi (a fairly high percentage in recent years) to go off the rails and become psychopathic evil characatures.

This individual should be tried, and not in an "Impartial Republic Court", this is a simple case of Murder, and should be tried in the Neimoidian and Bothan Courts respectively, in the order the crimes happened. I see no circumstance that grants the Republic Judicial supremecy here. I would however prefer to see this case tried in the New Republic Courts if needed than being "quietly tidied away by the Jedi order"

The Honourable Mr Loran also raises a very valid point about Mr Durron, how can an individual, after committing an act of Genocide so vast it equals the massacre at Alderaan be "let off" because he suffered temporary insanity (or posession by some ancient spirit, which we are dubious about). Justice should also be served here.

If I fired a Death Star at Coruscant and Destroyed it, then said "the Ghost in my head told me to", should I be let off after a serious talking to and a slap on the wrist?

I sound very hostile to the Jedi, rightly or wrongly, but as I see it there is little room for religion and supersticion in the Galaxy. Control of the force is a simple matter of having a high count of a particular cell in your blood, it is a biological, scientific matter, surely the training of these individuals should also be a scientific, not supersticious matter!

I do however thank certain Jedi, Luke Skywalker, Kyle Katarn, all those who have worked hard for the cause of the Rebellion and New Republic, but while I am greatful for their skills, I believe surrounding a simple talent with mysticism is unnessesary.

This is a simple matter of serving Justice, and I call for it to be served.

Senator Kruus of Neimoidia


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Eli_FitzgeraldDate: Tuesday, 06 Jan 2009, 2:00 PM | Message # 6
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I will assure Senator Kruus, Representative Loran and others that the Jedi will indeed cooperate with our investigation, as they have always dutifully cooperated with the New Republic in the past. I remind you all that the Jedi have never sought any special treatment or exemptions under the law, and (wisely, unlike the former "old" Jedi Order) want no role in the government or military other than what we request of them.

Of course it's true that this Darwin Sky, and a number of students at the Academy have become corrupted in some manner, and have perpetrated horrible crimes and atrocities upon this galaxy. But Senator Kruus also notes that certain other Jedi - among them, Commanders Skywalker and Katarn - have done a great, immeasurable service to this New Republic, and as Representative Loran pointed out, the Jedi "do great charitable works throughout the galaxy."

This does not excuse the atrocities, of course, but I don't see the need in blaming necessarily the Academy for the failures of those few who committed them, who are, afterall, individuals and sentients with their own shortcomings, anxieties, and in this case as Mr. Loran has said, "murderous tendencies." Make no mistake: I agree that Darwin Sky should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and that he should face justice in the proper Republic courts (whether they be on Bothawui, Neimoidia or Coruscant, as appropriate), but saying that the Academy caused these men to "become psychopathic, evil caricatures" is premature, at best.

Perhaps there are indeed more questions to be asked about the Academy's methods, but I find the demonizing of the Jedi in this discussion to be very distasteful, and possibly destructive. I have no doubt that when such questions are asked, the Jedi will answer in full candor as they always have, and will accomodate us as they always have, and will repudiate these atrocities and vindicate themselves as they always have.

But I also disagree with Senator Kruus on another, important point. You suggest that the government should teach the Force, but I ask, what's next? The government teaching morality? Or raising our children? Would you suggest that the almighty "big government" should be a sort of religion unto itself? The government is inefficient enough already, Senator. It exists to provide for its citizens and help them to realize their aspirations, not to meddle in their personal lives or propensities. Perhaps, as I have said, there are questions to be asked about the Academy's methods, but surely big government is not the answer.

Eli Fitzgerald

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Drayson_de_VegaDate: Tuesday, 06 Jan 2009, 2:03 PM | Message # 7
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I wonder why the Chief of State did not so much as reference the genocide committed by Mr. Durron. Could it be because Mr. Fitzgerald has infamously remarked that the Carida genocide was "... kind of a good thing..." for the New Republic?

Also, telling us what we already know (that Darwin Sky "should face justice in the proper Republic courts") does not assure us that he will face justice in the courts. I call upon the Chief of State once again to give us that assurance, to make certain that this case is not "tidied away" as was the Carida genocide.



From the office of the Chairman,
Drayson Loran (R-OSC)


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Eli_FitzgeraldDate: Tuesday, 06 Jan 2009, 2:06 PM | Message # 8
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As Representative Loran well knows, that statement was a careless and thoughtless remark that I have since apologized for. But I do not apologize for the genocide at Carida; only Kyp Durron can do that, and I doubt that he can ever do so sufficiently enough to repent for the millions of people he willingly murdered. And I do not excuse the genocide, either; no one can, or should. Enough said.

With respect to your second point, the crimes committed by Darwin Sky have been committed upon New Republic citizens, on New Republic worlds, and yes, that means it is incumbent upon us to bring him to justice in our courts, as I have said and as I intend to do.

Eli Fitzgerald

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Jory_CarsonDate: Thursday, 12 Feb 2009, 6:33 PM | Message # 9
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Senator Carson’s mood was hard to read as usual, his stoic glances across the Hall were nothing out of the ordinary; however his heart was filled with remorse for the victims, misgivings about the Jedi, and fear for an old friend; why had he not been warned of this before now, in the Senate Hall amongst angry Senators and Representatives. As usual, before giving his own remarks he took time to glance down at his notes.

“Fellow Senators and Representatives, I too share in your grief and anger at this atrocity, and like you I feel that any perpetrator of the Law is bound by the Law and as such should be punished by the same whether Jedi or no. However I too feel that we should strive to work with the Jedi Order in our efforts to apprehend and deal with this murderer.

“I am confident that the Jedi Order will aid is without pride or regret and will take the necessary steps to ensure that these cases will become nonexistent in the very near future. Let us all remember that the Jedi Order is not the same Sect that it was and that the New Republic is not the same Government that it once was.

“The Jedi no longer have the authority that they once had and the New Republic, under the capable leadership our current Chief of State, is not bound to make the same mistakes as once saw to the fall of the Grand Old Republic. Both entities have learned to co-exist in harmony over the past few years to the betterment of each. Both have learned that the Law is the Law and none are above it, not even the Jedi.” He sighed heavily.

“On the matter of the Government taking control of the academics of the Force; I ask this: Who among us has the knowledge or indeed the ability to interpret the ways of the Force and rightly divide that altruistic nature that determines what the Jedi do? Who among us has the forethought to judge what actions might, I say again, might lead one down the fallen path?

“And again, one may imply that it is only by the very nature of the mystical Force that one is lead hither or thither and made to either create calm or wreak havoc. I ask this: Who among us can remember Grand Moff Tarkin and the destruction of Alderaan, or Grand Admiral Thrawn and his cold, calculating campaigns that nearly won back the Empire? Who remembers Ysanne Isard and her attempts at utterly destroying all alien species save a few that suited her psychopathic designs? Were these people lead astray by virtue, or vice such that their motives were turned to darkness? Were their souls tainted by the Force or were they just self misguided people that chose to destroy billions of lives on a whim because they wanted more power for themselves?”

He took a moment to rake the audience with his eyes, a usually effective method of getting peoples’ attention. “No fellow Senators, Representatives; I have not that ability, knowledge or authority to undertake such a multifaceted endeavor, have you?”

 
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