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| Exar_Ray | Date: Saturday, 11 Apr 2009, 12:11 PM | Message # 16 |
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| Well Mr. Novak, while I disagree with you on your sith logic, I will save that for another day. I ask for the investigation because it doesn't make sense to me how you could have lost your course, which is why charts will have the New Republic with it's fight with the Remant. I vote to confirm his application... in all equality and fairness of course. Exar Ray
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| Rath-Deschain | Date: Saturday, 11 Apr 2009, 12:16 PM | Message # 17 |
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| I appreciate your vote of confidence, Senator Ray, and I hope that, when the investigation team comes, you will be on it. Perhaps we can discuss different ideologies over drinks. When I spoke of lost courses, it was not the charts themselves that were at fault; it was a malfunction of the navigational computer. That was what resulted in my hyperspace prison. Once again, Senator Ray, I look forward to meeting you at Druckenwell. -Jericho Novak, Druckenwell.
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| Eli_Fitzgerald | Date: Saturday, 11 Apr 2009, 3:28 PM | Message # 18 |
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| I think we're being far too reasonable about this, and frankly I'm disappointed in anyone who votes to make a farce of this Senate, if not worse. Your story is an incredible one, Mr. Novak, and understandably hard to believe. I mean you no offense, you seem mild and deliberate, but so did Palpatine, and so did Palpatine—through subterfuge—destroy the Senate and the Republic, not to mention that he could read and corrupt the minds of men through his manipulations of the Force. This is the history and the propensity of the order that you identify with, Mr. Novak, and the one that everyone here has spent much of our lives to destroy. Mr. Novak, whether you are a Sith or a deranged lunatic with a fantastic story, I will not suppose. What your intentions are in this chamber, I will not suppose because I do not and cannot know, because unlike a Sith I cannot read into the minds and secrets of others. So I will not rant passionately on my suspicions, but will instead judge you on your actions, as you have said. What I see here is a man who chooses, by his actions, to identify with an order that is historically, politically, and diametrically opposed to the Republic and in support of Empire, whether the "Sith Empire" of old or Palpatine's Empire. It is not simply a religious organization, it is a political one with a political motive and a modus operandi—the Force—to implement it. Whether or not this is your intention, Mr. Novak, this is the organization that you choose to affiliate with. It is an order that has brought countless wars and miseries on this galaxy, including the one we continue to fight to this day. It is an order that teaches not peace and coexistence, but conflict and "the death of the weak." It is an order that regards morality and mercy as "an obstacle," and that men should be ruled by passions, not deliberation and thoughtful consideration for the rights of others. The New Republic stands opposed to everything that the Sith believe, Mr. Novak, and this is the order that you freely identify with. So no, I will not support an application to join the Senate, when the applicant has made an unambiguous political statement that he associates with all of the principles that this Republic opposes. Too many of our crews and soldiers, too many of our friends and family, and too many people throughout all history have died to now allow what they fought against to make a farce of this democracy that they fought for. Surely, Mr. Novak, you would agree the people of Druckenwell would not be well served to have you as their Senator, and Senator Ray, neither would the people of Dantooine or any of us be well served by a Sith in this chamber. This very application, frankly, is offensive to me, and if it's a joke it's in very poor taste. With all due respect to you, Mr. Novak, I do not put much credibility in your citation of "the Republic tenets of equality and fairness" in your defense, when under a Sith ideology (with which you affiliate) there would be no equality or fairness. In closing, it is not unequal or unfair to refuse representation of an ideology that is fundamentally opposed and dedicated to the opposition of the New Republic, and of the basic rights of individuals for which we stand and the peace that we seek. Eli Fitzgerald
Chief of State
Eli Fitzgerald
Senator of Ralltiir (10 BBY—Present)
"I was elected to do some flamethrowing in the Senate. To a light a fire under those Senators and make it hot for them."
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| Simon_Levi | Date: Saturday, 11 Apr 2009, 4:50 PM | Message # 19 |
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| A sith in this senate? Not while I breathe. Against.
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| Rath-Deschain | Date: Sunday, 12 Apr 2009, 7:45 AM | Message # 20 |
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| Senator Kruus, if I may speak boldly without intending offense, perhaps your opinion is slightly jaded towards me due to the influence of Sith upon Neimoidia in the past. After all, the unlamented Viceroy Gunray worked for Palpatine and to his ends. It is only understandable that Neimoidia and all Neimoidians are nervous of Sith influence. Chairman Fitzgerald, it seems you and I are at an impasse of sorts. From your words, you make it seem as if the 'Sith' portion is all that prevents you from making a fair and impartial judgment. What then, if I simply stated I no longer followed the Sith Code? What if I were simply myself, using the Force as I saw fit without any political motive behind it? When you speak of 'conflict and death to the weak,' you greatly misjudge me. If one were to believe what you say, it would seem impossible for any man or being to change their minds or adopt different political views and create his own system by which he lives. I -do- heartily believe that the people of Druckenwell would be well served with me as their Senator. Believe this a farce, if you will. Believe it a mockery, I cannot stop you nor change your mind if you are dead set in this path with blinders over your eyes. I will state one thing for your consideration: if I wanted conquest, if I wanted death to the weak, if I wished for power... it would have been simpler to go to the Remnant, who would have more than rejoiced for the ships and battle droids I have. I would likely as not have been made a planetary governor, or at the least, been granted wealth and extra vessels. Instead, I chose to come to the New Republic, in the hope that, even as an outcast, even as an oddity, I would be accepted. It seems I was wrong. Senator Ray (and perhaps Senator Cambrist, who has not cast a vote yet), are the only Senators with a decent sense of morality and respect for those who are not part of the norm. -Jericho Novak, Druckenwell
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| DannilBoVar | Date: Sunday, 12 Apr 2009, 1:45 PM | Message # 21 |
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| "First, and foremost, I resent the comment that I lack 'a decent sense of morality and respect for those who are not part of the norm', especially when my vote has not been cast either. Despite that ostentatiously rude comment, I will refrain from being too reflective of the statement and simply accept that there were some individuals that you made an exception too without fully considering who those would be (and what I mean is, the fact that the InterGalactic Mining Core has been predominantly quiet when considered next to other factions within this Senate). The Chief of State brings up a valuable point though. We could no more allow the Sith into this Senate Hall than we could the Scorpions of Terror, a group that antagonized Dantooine before they were defeated--at least to the best of my knowledge. The Sith were an organization directly opposed to the Old Republic (being the Republic that this one is based upon I would add) and that have countless times attempted to insurrect the authority and free will of the Republics people. In essence, terror was the only true power of the Sith, and it was a dictatorial rule that allowed there kingdom to flourish under their tyrannical guidance. Now, I admit that it is possible for ideologies to change--for radicals to become flexible--but I must admit that the very visage of Sith speaks of terrorism at its finest. Violence to accomplish political goals. This Senate cannot under good terms accept a terrorist organization within its halls, and similarly should be apprehensive about allowing a former member of a terrorist organization. Now do you see the skepticism and apprehension that is circulating these halls? I do not condemn the good Ambassador from Druckenwell, but I do question the thesis and premise of him joining the Republic--and yes, simply because you are a proclaimed Sith. If a War Criminal repents his path, he is still a War Criminal, and still exempt from representing anything within these chambers. I would therefore attest that even though your ideologies may have changed, you are still similarly exempt under the premise of being part of a group (terrorist in nature) that sought and may still seek to destabilize democracy in the name of 'Order'. That being said, I do not cast a vote either for or against yet--and hope perhaps something beneficial can come from this sortie"
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| Rath-Deschain | Date: Sunday, 12 Apr 2009, 3:38 PM | Message # 22 |
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| Representative Bo'Var, I humbly apologize for not including you in my former statement. It is because the I.M.C. has been so quiet that they have nearly slipped out of my mind. Undoubtedly I have included others in this, but it was primarily Senators Cambrist and Ray who seem to be giving me more fair consideration thus far. If, as you say, the problem rests in the matter that I am a proclaimed Sith, what then if I instead change my views and state that I am a follower of the path of Potentium? If I am no longer Sith, then there should be no issue, unless I am missing several factors. The war criminal issue is questionable. After all this time, though, there are certain Senators, such as the honorable Senator Forte, who was a former C.I.S. general. As he has managed to enter the glorious halls of the New Republic, I do not see how my actions in the Clone Wars can condemn me, especially seeing as how the more recent war has overshadowed the Clone Wars by many times. -Jericho Novak, Druckenwell
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| Senator_Cambrist | Date: Sunday, 12 Apr 2009, 6:24 PM | Message # 23 |
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| You seem like a reasonable man, Mr. Novak, and were this simply a religious matter I would say that there is no grounds to refuse you. However, I must agree with the Chief of State that there are certain political connotations to the Sith and that those connotations are generally opposed to the egalitarian principles which Mr. Fitzgerald so loves to espouse at us. However, and I mean no prejudice to you, but I also have reservations on whether anyone proficient in the Force—specifically, proficient in sensing and influencing other's thoughts—should serve in a position where competing interests must be balanced and matters of security must be classified. We are a democracy, yes, but without any secrets I don't believe we could function as a government. So I must be respectfully against your application, and might suggest that the Senate pursue legislation on the eligibility of Force sensitives to hold public office. Senator Cambrist, Brentaal
Chairman of the Commerce Council
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| Rath-Deschain | Date: Monday, 13 Apr 2009, 7:47 AM | Message # 24 |
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| Senator Cambrist, your point is well taken and appreciated. After conferring with Governor Ryuun of Druckenwell and various officials of said planet, I have decided to withdraw my application as Senator. Instead, I will be accepting an appointment as Chief of Planetary Security on Druckenwell. Despite the misgivings that one of my type would be dangerous to the Senate, I do hope to work closely with some of you on future projects. Gentlemen, I bid you well. -Jericho Novak, Druckenwell.
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| LomenRyuun | Date: Monday, 13 Apr 2009, 8:07 AM | Message # 25 |
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| Chief of State Fitzgerald, Senators Cambrist, Ray, Kruus, Forte and Representative Bo'Var, I regret that I must greet you via holographic transmission, but affairs on Druckenwell have been quite busy as of late. This has not prevented me from following the broadcasts and transcripts of the Senate as Master Novak attempted to join and represent the planet that I have governed for many years. Seeing the outcry of the Senate led to a discussion between Master Novak and myself. As he has stated, we agreed that it would be better if he removed his application, taking instead the position I have graciously offered him as Minister of Defense for Druckenwell; a title synonymous with Chief of Planetary Security. In his place, I am putting forth my own political resume for application to the Senate. As I am no Sith and as my past is easily identifiable, I believe there should be less problems in this debate. Lomen Ryuun
Planetary Governor, Druckenwell
Lomen Ryuun
Senator, Doldur Sector
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| Eli_Fitzgerald | Date: Monday, 13 Apr 2009, 2:47 PM | Message # 26 |
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| I have just one question for you, Governor Ryuun. Was Mr. Novak's appointment to the Senate made freely, without any undue influence of money or the Force, and without the knowledge that he was, in fact, a Sith? I do not fault you if that is the case, but if so, is your government at all perturbed that Mr. Novak's said affiliation with the Sith was not made known to you prior to the appointment? Eli Fitzgerald
Chief of State
Eli Fitzgerald
Senator of Ralltiir (10 BBY—Present)
"I was elected to do some flamethrowing in the Senate. To a light a fire under those Senators and make it hot for them."
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| LomenRyuun | Date: Monday, 13 Apr 2009, 3:27 PM | Message # 27 |
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| I approved Master Novak to the Senate without need of bribery and, as far as I can tell, of my own free will and opinion. I have been Governor of Druckenwell for some time, Chief of State Fitzgerald, and I am quite used to defending from possible political enemies. Having stood in a public office for longer than Master Novak, I do not feel I need to be as flowery with my words as he has been, though this is no insult to him. It is true that we did not know Master Novak was a Sith at the time of his original appointment. He has, since this scandal broke, spoken to myself and the Committee that gave him the blessing to represent Druckenwell as Senator. Master Novak, I will state, begged our forgiveness, pleading no deception but a desire to do good and atone for his sins in the past. We have come to know Master Novak much better in these past days, and I still support him wholeheartedly. Druckenwell is not a planet with a large space fleet, Chief of State Fitzgerald. Master Novak could have easily pummeled us from orbit, killing many of our citizens and doing countless damage to Druckenwell. He could well have landed his droids and attacked our sizable militia with no loss of life to his own side. Instead, he came humbly, requesting entrance and submitting to our questioning and pledging himself in defense of this world. I was eager to join the New Republic. I fear the image I have held of this new government has been tarnished somewhat by the treatment of Master Novak. If perhaps you had sat down and spoken to him face to face on several occasions, you might well understand him better. Nonetheless, I still put forth my own application for Senator of Druckenwell.
Lomen Ryuun
Planetary Governor, Druckenwell
Lomen Ryuun
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| Eli_Fitzgerald | Date: Monday, 13 Apr 2009, 4:55 PM | Message # 28 |
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| I didn't intend to impugn you or your government, only to understand the series of events and absolve you from any appearance of impropriety. I said in a recent interview, and it is still my opinion that Druckenwell is a famed industrial power and I would like to see the planet and its people represented in the Senate. You have my confidence, Governor, and I do not oppose your application. Eli Fitzgerald
Chief of State
Eli Fitzgerald
Senator of Ralltiir (10 BBY—Present)
"I was elected to do some flamethrowing in the Senate. To a light a fire under those Senators and make it hot for them."
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| Senator_Cambrist | Date: Monday, 13 Apr 2009, 5:12 PM | Message # 29 |
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| Governor Ryuun, I'm assuming since Mr. Novak represented Druckenwell's government in his earlier answers, that his opinions on trade policy, on Acherin, the Remnant, etc. are also representative of your own opinions on those matters? Assuming so, I am prepared to support your application. Senator Cambrist, Brentaal
Chairman of the Commerce Council
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| LomenRyuun | Date: Monday, 13 Apr 2009, 7:59 PM | Message # 30 |
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| The opinions put forth by Minister Novak, as I shall henceforth address him as, originated within the ruling voices of Druckenwell. I appreciate the support you have shown, Senator Cambrist, and from you as well, Chief of State Fitzgerald. I do hope that my position in the Senate will be beneficial to all. Druckenwell may be small, and we may not have the pull of Kuat or the I.M.C, but we will contribute to the fullest extent we can. Lomen Ryuun
Planetary Governor, Druckenwell
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