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Banning the Observation of Life Day
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| Senator_Cambrist | Date: Monday, 07 Dec 2009, 1:02 AM | Message # 1 |
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| Senators, I propose that the New Republic be prohibited from formally recognizing, observing, or participating in the Wookiee holiday of "Life Day," or treating it in any preferential fashion. That is; it will not be considered a holiday for the Senate, or for federal offices, agencies, etc. (however, Wookiee employees may be granted leave providing it is requested sufficiently in advance), and Republic funds are not to be used to support Life Day events or displays. I realize that this occasion is celebrated on many worlds, but the fact remains that it is, traditionally, a day of spiritual significance on the planet of Kashyyyk, and it is unseemly for the New Republic or its officials—who are meant to be impartial—to honor one planet's holiday to the disregard or detriment of any other planet's holidays. It is also my understanding that Life Day involves a certain spirituality and ritual worship of a "tree of life." I remind the Senate that the New Republic is prohibited also from promoting articles of spiritual or religious belief, another reason to support this measure. I vote in favor.
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| Artemis_Vanden | Date: Wednesday, 09 Dec 2009, 0:14 AM | Message # 2 |
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| I am very conflicted on this measure. On the one hand, it is my understanding that Life Day is an entirely secular occasion and does not espouse any "articles of spiritual or religious belief," as Senator Cambrist suggests. To be sure, it is commonly celebrated on Naboo and many other worlds in a secular manner. Also, the Rebel Alliance closely associated itself with Life Day and its leaders were and are still known to speak of this holiday as exemplifying the principles of the Rebellion and, of course, the New Republic. In this sense, might it be fairly considered a universal holiday? On the other hand, I am inclined to agree that the Republic must be judicious to its memberworlds and not deem a holiday celebrated by some to be a holiday celebrated by all. It occurs to me that, perhaps, this issue would be best settled by framing it in opposite terms; that is, proposing that Life Day should be a federally recognized holiday, rather than that it shouldn't be. But, as I remain conflicted on this measure, I will refrain from voting for the time being. I will consult with my government and my people, and will also observe the debate on the floor in the hopes that it will prove informative on the subject.
Artemis Vanden
Representative of the Naboo
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| Simon_Levi | Date: Thursday, 10 Dec 2009, 12:53 PM | Message # 3 |
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| Neimoidia feels that life day is not appropriate to celebrate as a federal holiday as it is clearly of one planets origin. We vote in favour of Senator Cambrist's motion.
Moff of the Tammuz Sector
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| Ponc_Gavrisom | Date: Thursday, 10 Dec 2009, 12:58 PM | Message # 4 |
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| Gentlemen, Life day is a largely secular holiday, and is practiced across the galaxy. It was symbolic in our struggle against the Empire in the past, and its secular observance is massively larger than any religious obervance. As such I vote against Mr Cambrist's motion to "steal life day"
Ponc Gavrisom
Chief of State
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| Ilanah_Thanatos | Date: Thursday, 10 Dec 2009, 2:48 PM | Message # 5 |
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| I agree with President Gavrisom and vote against this measure. It would be like banning any of the holidays that you observe, Senator Cambrist. Not only that, Life Day is not necessarily only observed by Wookees. In fact, my husband and I are planning on attending President Gavrisom's Life Day Celebration. Perhaps you should come out and see what it is all about.
Ilanah R. Thanatos
Senator of Chandrila
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| Senator_Cambrist | Date: Thursday, 10 Dec 2009, 3:47 PM | Message # 6 |
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| Humbug. I do not observe holidays, but my personal preference is not at issue here and neither is anyone else's; at issue is the New Republic preferentially observing one planet's holiday while not observing others. It is true that Life Day is celebrated in many places, but there are many holidays celebrated in many places and it is exclusionary to all of those, as Senator Thanatos herself suggested, to honor this holiday over theirs.
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| Ponc_Gavrisom | Date: Monday, 14 Dec 2009, 9:54 PM | Message # 7 |
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| Is there to be any more debate on this matter?
Ponc Gavrisom
Chief of State
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| LomenRyuun | Date: Tuesday, 15 Dec 2009, 7:49 AM | Message # 8 |
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| It is odd, but I find myself agreeing with both President Gavrisom and Senator Cambrist. I believe that no planet's holiday should be set above any other, especially to be fair and impartial. However, as President Gavrisom has pointed out, Life Day is important for a multitude of reasons. I therefore agree that Life Day should remain a federal holiday, but that it be the only such holiday raised to such a status.
Lomen Ryuun
Senator, Doldur Sector
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| Jory_Carson | Date: Tuesday, 15 Dec 2009, 5:33 PM | Message # 9 |
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| “While I am not well versed in the ‘Life Day’ holiday, and will likely be spending said day with a good book and a blanket by the fire, I cannot see the sense in attempting to ban its observation. As I understand it, no one is required to observe the day as Life Day, nor to engage in the secular or ritual activities of the day. “I stand AGAINST this measure.”
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| Tremaine_Fowlkes | Date: Tuesday, 15 Dec 2009, 8:08 PM | Message # 10 |
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| I agree with the Chief of State that Life Day is symbolic for struggle against the Empire in the past. It is something that shouldn't be taken lightly. It is a day where we honor every sacrifice being made to where we are nowaday. I vote against this proposal. Tremaine Fowlkes
Senator of Mowgle
Tremaine Fowlkes
Senator of Telos IV
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| Senator_Cambrist | Date: Tuesday, 15 Dec 2009, 9:31 PM | Message # 11 |
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| Senator Ryuun, honoring this holiday and not others is preferential treatment. Senator Carson, observing the holiday is fine; the question is whether your credits, as a taxpayer, should support it while you sit at home with a blanket and a book. Senator Fowlkes, the Republic should not co-opt a people's holiday for our own political purposes.
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| OrionKarath | Date: Thursday, 17 Dec 2009, 1:17 AM | Message # 12 |
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| I, in a rare instance, stand with Chief Gavrisom. I agree with himself, and the other Senators in opposition to this legislation. I vote Against this bill.
Orion Karath
Manager from June 2009 to Present, Administrator from December 2011 to Present
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| Ponc_Gavrisom | Date: Thursday, 17 Dec 2009, 7:37 AM | Message # 13 |
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| This motion fails. Life Day will be celebrated in the normal way.
Ponc Gavrisom
Chief of State
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