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Reversal of a Ban
LomenRyuunDate: Sunday, 27 Dec 2009, 1:46 PM | Message # 1
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It has come to my attention, Senators, that Senator Cambrist and the Commerce Council have instituted a ban against Ravak & Larben Enterprises, calling them an "unlawful front organization" that exists for the purposes of "tax evasion" or "purposes even more sinister."

Gentlebeings of the Senate, let me ask this: a corporation that produces expert product such as we have seen (albeit in limited quantities) does not make it unlawful or sinister because it respects its privacy. Instead of a ban, a committee should have been sent to investigate, perhaps hold meetings with the heads of the corporation. Just because they do not bank with the banks we use does not mean they do not bank. Indeed, some people go their whole lives without trusting banks.

Senator Cambrist mentions it not showing up on any stock exchanges either. Is it not the choice of a corporation to be publically traded or not?

I would hear the various worries of my fellow Senators if any exist and then vote on whether or not the ban against Ravak & Larben Enterprises should be lifted. If it is decided it must stay, or if it goes, I do believe still that a committee should investigate further.

I needn't remind my fellow Senators that Ravak & Larben Enterprises also sell to the Imperial Remnant. It would do us ill if the Remnant becomes one of their primary purchasers and we are left unknowing of what we may be up against in the future.


Lomen Ryuun
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Senator_CambristDate: Sunday, 27 Dec 2009, 7:51 PM | Message # 2
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I realize that it is fashionable to portray me as a villain and, thus, call into question some of the measures that I propose. However, I must stress in this instance that the Commerce Council has voted unanimously on this matter, and both the Economics Council and the Justice Council and, as I understand it, the administration is in agreement. The prohibition against this particular shipwright is simply common sense, and not unreasonable by any means.

However, to resolve any confusion on this matter I will, on behalf of the Commerce Council, address Senator Ryuun's concerns. In order:

1. The Council's memorandum noted that Ravak & Larben has the appearance of an unlawful front organization. We don't know if it is or isn't because it conceals its finances, its assets, and even its whereabouts and the identities of its employees and executives in a most unusual and secretive manner. This, indeed, is the point. I am personally inclined to believe that Ravak & Larben is a front for one of our more prominent shipwrights, in order to avoid paying taxes on a new production line, or to be able to sell this line, illicitly, to criminals, terrorists, or warlords.

But we do not know whether Ravak & Larben's ships or revenues end up in the hands of criminals, terrorists, or warlords and, again, this is the point. Any organization that goes to such extravagant lengths to hide something is hiding something; until we know what, it is proper that the New Republic should not do business with this shady organization.

2. It is not the responsibility of the Commerce Council to explain or account for Ravak & Larben's strange behavior—that is Ravak & Larben's responsibility. If the company wants access to New Republic markets, it is aware of the changes it must make. Otherwise, the Council sees no reason to waste its time or resources to investigate it since we assess thousands of such corporations on a monthly basis (why Senator Ryuun is so concerned with Ravak & Larben, specifically, I do not know).

3. It isn't that Ravak & Larben doesn't use the banks that we use; it's that Ravak & Larben uses no known banks anywhere in the galaxy. It is, thus, a black hole into which credits disappear without a trace. Once again, for all we know this money could be going to criminals, terrorists, or warlords, or simply into the pockets of New Republic executives, perhaps at Kuat or Fondor, who are circumventing taxes and regulations.

4. The memorandum mentions stock exchanges simply as further indication that Ravak & Larben does not exist as a legal, fiscal entity anywhere.

5. The Commerce Council does what is best for the New Republic and enforces its laws and regulations regardless of "the various worries of my fellow Senators." No corporation deserves special treatment under the law just because it has the patronage of certain Senators such as, apparently, Senator Ryuun. The Commerce Council has voted unanimously on this matter, and sees no need to revisit it further; if Ravak & Larben wishes to contact us, or change its practices, it may do so. In the meantime, no further action is required from us.

6. I do not speak for the Imperial Remnant's commercial policies, but it is, clearly, in no one's interest to send credits into a black hole that might well be funding its adversaries. Also, as the Remnant's economy has collapsed, the manufacture of vessels and components has become an increasingly important sector of employment on its worlds; shipbuilding is very much nationalized, and it is unlikely that the Remnant would buy vessels in any substantial numbers from a third party (even a legitimate third party), because those third parties are competing with its own industries, on which its fragile economy depends.

I hope this explains the matter quite clearly. I feel we've already devoted far more time and attention to this particular shipwright than it deserves—shadowy and potentially criminal organizations are plentiful in this galaxy, and Ravak & Larben is but one of many of them. If, as I gather, Druckenwell is interested in purchasing vessels, I suggest it do the patriotic thing and Buy Republic.




Message edited by Reuke_Cambrist - Sunday, 27 Dec 2009, 7:56 PM
 
Simon_LeviDate: Monday, 28 Dec 2009, 1:22 AM | Message # 3
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Mr Senator Ryuun.

Unfortunately I am disinclined to agree with you. Furthermore I am inclined to agree with Senator Cambrist. An Individual may have a right to privacy, but a corporation does not, it must be scrutinised for over a dozen different legal criteria, from Health and Safety Compliance to Tax payments.

Revak and Larben is known to produce vessels, no questions asked. What I believe is that this is an illegal business, one that would produce ships for our enemies and friends alike. In short, an amoral corporation, one that doesnt care whos money it takes and has no loyalty. It could produce illegal vessels with impunity.

As such I not only support this ban but call upon the NRI to investigate this company, I also believe sanctions should be taken against worlds using its services. Gentlemen, this corporation is like a weed, one which we must dig from our republic and cast into the flames.


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Ponc_GavrisomDate: Monday, 28 Dec 2009, 3:40 PM | Message # 4
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Senators, Delegates,

I do believe that Revak and Larben does seem to be acting in the most shady manner in producing vessels and weapons to the highest bidder outside of the law. If it would submit to the process of becoming New Republic Chartered then I would support the lifting of this ban.


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LomenRyuunDate: Monday, 28 Dec 2009, 7:39 PM | Message # 5
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Senator Kruus, a ban is one thing. Using the NRI is quite another. If indeed they are a legitimate company, we have no right to pry. As well, if they agree t0o President Gavrisom's chartering process, we once more have no room to pry. I highly doubt we have spies from the NRI placed in the quarters of Kuat Drive Yards' corporation head. As for your apparent personal dislike of Ravak & Larben Enterprises for selling to both sides, I will agree that is it amoral from one viewpoint, but it is also good business from another standpoint.

Lomen Ryuun
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Ponc_GavrisomDate: Monday, 28 Dec 2009, 9:17 PM | Message # 6
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Mr Ryuun.

We do have the right to "pry" into the affairs of organisations producing battleships for anyone with the credits. A legal person does not have the right to privacy, it is a corporation, not an individual and the same standards do not apply. I would advise that we do tread softly, but we should most certainly investigate this organisation as befits any rogue-shipyard.


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