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| Johannes_Oswaldt | Date: Saturday, 30 Jan 2010, 11:19 AM | Message # 1 |
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| Currently, whether a species is sentient is determined by universities and bureaucrats. But Senators, who elected these people? No one. How do we know they don't have some liberal agenda? We don't. There needs to be more accountability in this process—we elected Senators should have the final say in this matter, not ivory tower intellectuals. I propose that the responsibility for determining the sentience of species be removed from behind closed doors and, instead, vested in a "Committee on the Sentience of Species" in this very Senate. Its discussions would be broadcast on Channel 11, where everyone can see them. I vote in favor, and if it is approved I volunteer myself to chair this committee.
Johannes Oswaldt
Senator and Governor of Eriadu
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| Jory_Carson | Date: Sunday, 31 Jan 2010, 9:25 AM | Message # 2 |
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| "I can find no reason why we should further burden a Senate that is already tasked with maintaining thousands of delegations and comities with something that has worked well enough in the past. "I vote AGAINST this measure."
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| Ponc_Gavrisom | Date: Sunday, 31 Jan 2010, 9:39 AM | Message # 3 |
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| I feel that putting such discussions, which are frankly, academic in nature on the Holonet would simply allow them to be misrepresented for populist purposes. I also feel democratic officials may not be the best suited to this role, because they are of their nature likely to be influenced by public opinion, which is often not the best judge in such an academic matter. Just as we do not elect Judges, it seems innapropriate to have elected officials at the center of a media circus be the ones to decide who is sentient. As such I vote against this motion.
Ponc Gavrisom
Chief of State
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| Tremaine_Fowlkes | Date: Sunday, 31 Jan 2010, 5:12 PM | Message # 4 |
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| I vote against this proposal. Tremaine Fowlkes,
Senator of Mowgle
Tremaine Fowlkes
Senator of Telos IV
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| Artemis_Vanden | Date: Monday, 01 Feb 2010, 0:34 AM | Message # 5 |
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| The Chief of State is absolutely right. This proposal is most offensive, and deceptive. Sentience isn't something that can be decided by a committee—it requires scientists, anthropologists, and so on to determine this. Are we really supposed to believe that academics are more likely to have an "agenda" than Senators are? It is we Senators who are elected to serve the political ends of the people. Professors, scientists and academics are concerned only with truth, not politics. And truth, Senators, is not and must not be subject to popular passions. I vote against this proposal to turn the Rights of Sentience into a media circus with Senator Oswaldt as its ringmaster.
Artemis Vanden
Representative of the Naboo
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| Johannes_Oswaldt | Date: Monday, 01 Feb 2010, 1:27 AM | Message # 6 |
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| Though I am also now a Senator, I prefer to be referred to as Governor Oswaldt. The fact remains, a vote against this measure is a vote for sentience to be determined behind closed doors, by people we do not know and whose "expertise" we cannot possibly trust. As for whether these intellectuals have a political agenda, I remind Senator Vanden that many universities are famously liberal institutions that do have political biases. I strongly disagree with the Senator and with Emperor Gavrisom on this matter, and I also find it ironic that I'm the one on the side of democracy here.
Johannes Oswaldt
Senator and Governor of Eriadu
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| Senator_Cambrist | Date: Tuesday, 02 Feb 2010, 10:09 PM | Message # 7 |
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| I trust the Governor did not intend to say "Emperor Gavrisom"?
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| Johannes_Oswaldt | Date: Thursday, 04 Feb 2010, 0:12 AM | Message # 8 |
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| I misspoke.
Johannes Oswaldt
Senator and Governor of Eriadu
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| Cul-utaanForte | Date: Thursday, 04 Feb 2010, 8:39 AM | Message # 9 |
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| The Senator of Eriadu raises a good point, in that there should be more accountability on the issue of Sentience. It should be from a board of politicians however. A myriad of problems would result from this. For example, I am Twi'lek. Say a majority of this "Sentience Council" is of my political enemies. For all I know, I could wake up one morning and find my race has been declared non-sentient, causing countless problems for myself, Ryloth, and my people. I vote Against.
General Cul'utaan'forte
Forte's Legion
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| Mical_de_Crion | Date: Thursday, 04 Feb 2010, 8:44 AM | Message # 10 |
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| The system in place works just fine, Governor Oswaldt. So, I must vote Against this measure.
Mical Léo de Crion
Director, All Stars Burn As One Foundation
Chairman, Urban Youth College Fund
Owner, Château Hiver Rivière
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| Janar_Cerra | Date: Saturday, 06 Feb 2010, 8:01 AM | Message # 11 |
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| If it is not broken, we should not fix it. It seems to me you are a fan of big government. I am glad that my friends within these halls think much like I do. I must also vote against this motion. Ja'nar Cerra
Garos IV
Ja'nar Cerra
Queen of Garos IV
Acting Senator to the Republic, Garos IV
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| Ponc_Gavrisom | Date: Sunday, 07 Feb 2010, 10:34 AM | Message # 12 |
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| With only one vote in favour, this motion fails.
Ponc Gavrisom
Chief of State
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