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The Republic-Imperial Military Cooperation Bill
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| Mical_de_Crion | Date: Sunday, 28 Feb 2010, 1:47 PM | Message # 1 |
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| The Republic-Imperial Military Cooperation Bill
Written and Introduced by Senator Mical de Crion, Tapani Sector While the Bastion Accords have been beneficial for both sides, cooperation has been...difficult...to obtain, with some tensions still remaining. I am proposing this legislation, which after approval shall be sent to the Moff Council for ratification, shall be known as the Military Cooperation Ammendment to the Pellaeon-Gavrisom Treaty. The bill mandates that the following shall be done: Spectre Force
Spectre Force, shall be an elite unit, consisting of the best special operations personnel of the Remnant and the Republic operating as a cohesive unit. Consisting of, four battalions, each with a headquarters element of thirty memebers, each with three companies, of which each consists of five detachments of twelve members, and an thirteen member headquarters detachment. The Spectres fall under the oversight of an advisory body (see: Joint Military Council). The Joint Task Forces
Each government will assign three vessels to a Joint Task Force, with an advisory body (see: Joint Military Council), choosing another vessel from either side to serve as the Task Force flagship. At the time of the ratification of this ammendment, one Joint Task Force will be required, with an endgoal of five standing Joint Task Forces The Joint Strike Forces
The Joint Strike Force is the organizational body of the surface forces of the Joint Task Forces, as well as any additional surface forces attached to a Joint Task Force at any given time. An advisory body (see:Joint Military Council) has oversight. The Joint Military Council
These units will serve under a body named the Joint Military Council, consisting of representative of each branch of military service of each government, and each side choosing a leader among them, known as the Vice Chairmen, as well as a Chairman of the entire body, from either government and any branch. The elected Vice Chairmen and Chairman will have their respective spots replaced. The JMC will serve as a oversight to the Joint Task Forces and Joint Strike Forces, as well as an advisory body, giving recommendations to each governments and their military command structures on the perceived needs of the Joint Military Forces, and ways to make this cooperative effort work more efficiently.
Mical Léo de Crion
Director, All Stars Burn As One Foundation
Chairman, Urban Youth College Fund
Owner, Château Hiver Rivière
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| Ponc_Gavrisom | Date: Monday, 01 Mar 2010, 3:49 PM | Message # 2 |
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| Beings of the Senate, This its a treaty that goes rather too far, too soon. While the Empire is now our friend in Galactic Affairs, it is still a state which we were at war with not two years ago, for over two decades! While in certain circumstances I would support co-operation of military forces (to secure joint interests etc), it would be as a coalition of autonomous factions under seperate command. I would not support the formal establishment of a military entity which puts Imperial Officers in command of New Republic troopers, and do not believe it would be seemly or prudent to do so. I also believe even the best disciplined of Imperial or New Republic troops would perform well under unfamiliar command. Equally I know this is a bill the Remnant would Veto firmly, and I would not blame them for doing so. As such I must state the Opinion of the Administration and myself is to vote Against this motion.
Ponc Gavrisom
Chief of State
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| Artemis_Vanden | Date: Monday, 01 Mar 2010, 3:57 PM | Message # 3 |
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| As much as I would like to encourage greater cooperation with the Remnant, for indeed I believe this is how we will ultimately change the Remnant's more objectionable ways, the King of Naboo is adamant that none of his subjects, serving in the New Republic military, shall be put in a position subordinate to Imperial officers. I am instructed to vote against the bill, and I must agree with the Chief of State that the measure is premature at this time, and that the Remnant is quite likely to oppose it.
Artemis Vanden
Representative of the Naboo
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| Mical_de_Crion | Date: Monday, 01 Mar 2010, 7:27 PM | Message # 4 |
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| President Gavrisom, with all due respect, your position goes against everything you have preached thus far. Peace, coexistance, cooperation. These are the tenants of your administration, of your platform thus far. Now that we bring about a piece of legislation and ammendment to the Bastion Accords that would bring about true cooperation on a level necesarry for continued peace and coexistance, you suddenly say no. You've advocated wide ranging immersion and unification between our two government and now suddenly stand stiff against one of the few areas where we are yet to go. Is it because it is not your own idea? I fail to see otherwise, a reason for you to oppose this measure. Also, your comments on the personnel of our Defense Forces borders insult, in my view, sir. You speak so highly of peace, and have defended them so many times, and yet believe on sight of an Imperial officer they are likely to attack them. You speak so highly of the Imperials and their willingness to work with us, yet believe they will firmly go against this necesarry reform. This is hypocritical of you. While I understand it will be difficult to implement and talk to the Imperials about, it can be done. Any work worth doing is hard, for if it weren't, then it wouldn't be rewarding. But please, President Gavrisom, explain in deeper detail your opposition to this issue and why, so I may understand where your angle is on this measure, that is clearly within this administration's proclaimed ideals.
Mical Léo de Crion
Director, All Stars Burn As One Foundation
Chairman, Urban Youth College Fund
Owner, Château Hiver Rivière
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| Ponc_Gavrisom | Date: Tuesday, 02 Mar 2010, 12:00 PM | Message # 5 |
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| Mr Crion, There is a difference between being someone's friend, and entering into marriage with them. I believe we should be the friend of the Remnant, and further cooperate them over time, for further cooperation is the way to bring them into a more democratic, just and free state.. however, I would not advocate tying ourselves together in this formal way at this time. I would also highlight I have not suggested our men would attack Imperial Officers, those are your disparaging words Mr Crion, not mine. I do not criticise Mr Crions willingness to cooperate with the Empire, but I will restate that cooperation must be gradual, and we should not jump into foreign military entanglements such as this without building up a sound diplomatic and trade relationship, furthermore I would question the nessessity and propriety of forming new strike forces? I believe we have armies enough without joining ours to those of the Empire to form joint-strike forces.
Ponc Gavrisom
Chief of State
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| Senator_Cambrist | Date: Tuesday, 02 Mar 2010, 4:33 PM | Message # 6 |
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| The Chief of State is quite lucid on this subject and has stated my opinion better than I could have. The peace treaty was just that—an end to war between two, respective factions, and an agreement that there shall be commerce between them. It is not a mandate, surely not as far as the Remnant is concerned, for these factions to cooperate in any respect. Cooperation is desirable, of course. But I agree with President Gavrisom that this must be accomplished first within the terms of the treaty, on matters of commerce and diplomacy, before we build upon the accords any further. There's certainly no hypocrisy here. I also concur with Senator Vanden. New Republic worlds have all, presumably, made a determination that they do not want to be under Imperial authority in any way, shape, or form. This treaty would place Republic citizens, and soldiers, under Imperial authority. It is too extreme, and however well intentioned it might be I believe it will alienate many, such as President Gavrisom, Senator Vanden, and myself, who do favor more cooperation with the Remnant but not so much, so fast. Thus, I vote against this proposed treaty.
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| Mical_de_Crion | Date: Tuesday, 02 Mar 2010, 10:03 PM | Message # 7 |
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| The point has been made by the administration, and I apologize for the assumptive remark. I withdraw this motion. To clarify however, the forces that would become part of these joint units would be drawn out of the standing fores of each side, not entirely new units.
Mical Léo de Crion
Director, All Stars Burn As One Foundation
Chairman, Urban Youth College Fund
Owner, Château Hiver Rivière
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| Ponc_Gavrisom | Date: Friday, 19 Mar 2010, 9:05 PM | Message # 8 |
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| As stated by Senator Crion, the motion was withdrawn and so fails.
Ponc Gavrisom
Chief of State
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