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Tremaine_Fowlkes | Date: Tuesday, 17 Mar 2009, 7:14 PM | Message # 1 |
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| I would like to request two seperate things, instead of making seperate posts about it. Here are the requests: A) Tremaine would like to establish a nonprofit organization called The Helping Hand. It does several stuffs, but it only applies to the Outer Rim. They do the following: Raise money for the poverty. Send the children of the families that could not afford to pay education to school. Build homes for people who couldn't afford homes. Find jobs for the unemployed. Provide help for those who are sick or injured. Help rebuild old and ruined buildings to provide better environment for education and workplace. Provide food for the poverty. Tremaine would like to expand his planetary force little bit, the following: 1 Corellian gunship 12 T-Wing starfighters 250 Mowgle militia
Tremaine Fowlkes Senator of Telos IV
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EchuuShinzon | Date: Tuesday, 17 Mar 2009, 8:31 PM | Message # 2 |
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| Alright, I have a problem with request A and request B. The problem starts with your organization (which you called The Helping Hand, which I should also allude sounds like a Thieves Guild fencing location, lol). I am curious how you intend on finding the funding to help povery stricken people in the Outer Rim, sending children to schools in the Outer Rim, building homes in the Outer Rim, finding jobs in the Outer Rim, providing help for those in the Outer Rim (a healthcare issue, which means you would similarly have to get insurance and be lending out an incredible amount of monetary capital) repairing and maintenancing buildings in the Outer Rim, and providing food in the Outer Rim. Did you notice the one thing I repeated? Outer Rim? Let's tackle this in stages, since I find that easiest. 1) You are attempting to solve the galaxies problems. This includes destroying poverty, creating education, homes, and rebuilding infrastructure. I would contend that the task that you have set you organization up for (a none-profit organization I might add) is too grand a scheme, and that you will inevitably not only go bankrupt, but fail horribly. Therefore, I would say that you must reassess what you trying to accomplish. An Example is: UNICEF, providing shelter and food for those in poverty. Restrict yourself to a specific task (such as education, or shelter/food, or homes) so that you can best provide for those that seek your aid. 2) you are tackling the entire Outer Rim. It would be best if you have one planet as a primary place which you want to help, and maybe as sponsorship grows you can expand to other planets. I think though, for the sake of maintaining a realistic approach, any organization would be restricted to either helping 3 planets to the fullest of their capacity, or minorly helping 15-20 planets (because resources would be scarce the more planets you take on). Now the second problem. As a low-tech agricultural world (and I can't believe I am going to say that), I don't think Mowgle could afford a Corellian gunship (which I will assume is a Tartan Patrol Cruiser), and I don't even think would require 12 T-Wing starfighters. However, as Mowgle is a huge planet, I could presumably see an increase in it's militia rate, but a decrease in it's naval superiority. That being say, I believe a figure more along these lines is workable: 6 x T-Wing Starfighters 1,200 Mowgle Militia Keep in mind the militia has to oversee the protection of the -entire- planet. Anyway, for this request, I must unfortunately MOTION TO DENY both, feel free to repost a new application with requests should this one end up denied. Thank you.
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Jace_Varitek | Date: Thursday, 19 Mar 2009, 12:47 PM | Message # 3 |
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| I actually vote to APPROVE both requests. The charity may be impractical, as Echuu says, in that it's trying to accomplish too much. But if so, it just won't be effective. Doesn't necessarily mean we shouldn't approve an ineffective charity, however. I also feel that Mowgle, though not affluent, could still afford a Corellian gunship (assuming "Corellian gunship" refers to a DP20). I agree with Echuu, however, that you can easily raise 1,200 militia if you'd prefer. I mean, the city I live in has over 2,000 police officers alone. Jace Varitek
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EchuuShinzon | Date: Thursday, 19 Mar 2009, 7:50 PM | Message # 4 |
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| As stated, I was making the assumption that the gunship was a Tartan Patrol cruiser; I will however amend the response so that the DP20 is allowed. That being said, I also want to rewrite my initial findings on the T-Wing, and having discovered that 12 fighters make up a squadron, I'm not entirely against allowing 1 DP20 and 1 squadron of T-Wings on Mowgle. As for the charity, that is unfortunately a matter that I would continue to have to disagree with Jace on. While it is safe to say that not all charities, corporations, and PC organizations will be effective or efficient (or crumble entirely) we lack a method with which to keep events and organizations within the scope of realism. To simplify, I was AGAINSTthe organization not because I thought that it was a stupid idea that would flounder, but because unless Management wishes to assume responsibilityand monitor the corporation, we really have no means of saying whether the corporation is failing or succeeding beyond what Fowlkes would say. This means that this organization (which should be failing) can theoretically strive and solve the Outer Rim problems! Because we have no workable simulation system with which to show the unpracticality of the whole organization. So again, unless management is willing to monitorand watch this organization develop and help with simulating it's probability of success, I can not support a measure of something that may or may not fall under a category of realism. I could be wrong however, and I welcome further input on the matter. In the meantime, I respectfully petition another member of Management to break the current stalemate (although I do concede that the military request is in APPROVALwhich is a change from my previous stance.
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Jace_Varitek | Date: Friday, 20 Mar 2009, 2:16 PM | Message # 5 |
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| The Coruscant Journal is generally a good mechanism through which to declare the progress of such things as Tremaine's charity, much like it went into detail on the NIO's economic troubles or, more relevantly, the tale of woe that has become the PDS. Jace Varitek
Jace Varitek Manager/Administrator from January 2003 to Present My recent posts here, pre-2009 archives here
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EchuuShinzon | Date: Saturday, 21 Mar 2009, 11:00 AM | Message # 6 |
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| Again, if management is willing to maintain a progress report of Tremaine's charity, then I'm all for it; I guess I should have stated that I'm reluctant, and not outright denied it--but I can get ahead of myself. Very well, I'll motion to APPROVE both requests then. and with two votes for, you can consider the request APPROVED
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