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Request for Druckenwell Defensive Forces
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| Rath-Deschain | Date: Friday, 10 Apr 2009, 8:15 AM | Message # 1 |
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| Moderators, please keep in mind that these are rough numbers. I am more than willing to accept cuts and/or changes. This is simply a guideline. --- 1-2x Invincible-class Dreadnought Heavy Cruiser- Being older model ships, these would serve as the backbone for Druckenwell's defense force. They are not too heavily armed, yet armed enough to deal with smaller vessels and even trade a few slugs with larger. These ships would remain in the Druckenwell system at all times; not to be used for any hostile purposes. I would be willing to exchange one for a Dreadnaught-class Heavy Cruiser 1x Strike-class Medium Cruiser- The Strike cruiser is an extremely modular and modern vessel compared to the previously mentioned ship. I would ask for only one because, while it would serve multiple purposes, it might play an offensive role at some point. In a defensive role, it would serve to compliment the larger vessels with greater speed and maneuverability. 1-2x Carrack-class Light Cruiser- The Carrack light cruiser (if two are allowed) would come one standard; one anti-starfighter configuration. It is my thought that the pair of Carrack cruisers and the Strike cruiser could be considered Druckenwell's contribution to the New Republic, acting as part of the New Republic fleet in sorties against Remnant forces and Remnant-held worlds. When not in use or needed by the New Republic, the Carrack cruiser would form the primary snubfighter defense for Druckenwell. 1-2x Munificent-class Star Frigate- There is no mistaking this vessel for anything but a warship. However, mention in the article states they were also used to transport goods. Instead of the common bulk freighters and unarmed transports, I would like these to serve a dual purpose: 1) To act as transport ships for Druckenwell's goods to the various New Republic worlds; 2) To serve as escorts for the Shattered Heel when it is deployed in combat. 2x Recusant-class Light Destroyer- These... uh... well, apparently they're ugly and the droid brains are a liability. I only requested them because I thought they looked cool though. They have no real purpose other than a dedicated defensive warship. Just for the hell of it, I had to ask for one of These. If I actually get it, I'll probably crap myself and die of shock though. --- Seeing as how Druckenwell was formerly an Imperial world, I would request the following for already existing defenses: 2x Squadrons of TIE Fighters
1x Squadron of TIE Interceptors These seem about average (I believe) for a wealthy world to have on-hand for quick defense. --- The remaining requests here are small requests that don't really fit in with the rest. 6x C-9979 Landing Craft- Cause I gotta my droids to the surface somehow and not all of them can just hop off an Acclamator. 1x Diamond-class Cruiser- Cause it would really make deployment of my heavy artillery easier. Also, it's not heavily armed. More of a troop thing. Final request being (as I'm not sure how many) enough SPHA to convert a Venator into a gunship. Yes, I realize this is a lot. Yes, I realize I'm probably giving Jace a headache and an ulcer and everything else. Sorry guys.  I try not to be too difficult. My mind is just in massive planning mode. EDIT: Could I also toss in 4x Skipray craft for police-type patrol and interdiction of pirates?
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| Havoc | Date: Friday, 10 Apr 2009, 9:21 AM | Message # 2 |
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| Before anything is made, can we please get a list of current forces?
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| Rath-Deschain | Date: Friday, 10 Apr 2009, 2:38 PM | Message # 3 |
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| See, I didn't know what Druckenwell already has/had, so all I had no to off of was Novak's (remaining) fleet of two Venator craft (w/starfighters) and two Acclamators (w/ droids). As such, the current, semi-privatized space fleet consists of: 2x Venator-class Star Destroyer
200x ARC-170 Starfighters (integrated droid brain)
384x Alpha-3 Nimbus-class V-wing (integrated droid brain)
384x Eta-2 Actis-class light interceptors (integrated droid brain)
2x Acclamator-I class assault ship
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Friday, 10 Apr 2009, 6:09 PM | Message # 4 |
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| I vote to APPROVE one Invincible-class Dreadnaught, for use solely in defending Druckenwell, and also an indeterminate number of Diamond-class Cruisers for the purpose of landing troops. I vote to DENY everything else. My reasoning is that 2 Venators and 2 Acclamators is already about an even match for other planets in the RP, such as Brentaal and Neimoidia. Also, Neimoidia has (I believe) 72 fighters total, while Brentaal has 36. You have almost 1,000 already, which you'll understand might need to be tweaked. So while it's reasonable to expect Druckenwell should have some TIEs, I just can't approve of any more fighters than you already have. I know it seems like I'm voting to deny most of your request, which I am, but bear in mind with the balance of firepower in the RP you're already in a rather advantageous position so I don't think it should hurt much. Jace Varitek
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Friday, 10 Apr 2009, 6:26 PM | Message # 5 |
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| Actually, since both Acclamators and (according to Echuu) Venators can act as atmospheric landing ships, I'm a bit reluctant to even approve the Diamond-class transports. Jace Varitek
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| Rath-Deschain | Date: Friday, 10 Apr 2009, 10:03 PM | Message # 6 |
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| Ok, I'll admit is was definitely a large request. As such, I understand why the denial is from. The Invincible is quite welcome for use at Druckenwell. The purpose of the Diamond cruisers is solely for landing heavy artillery. It seems a bad idea to expose the larger Acclamators and Venators for a simply artillery drop. The Diamonds are also very lightly armed and, as such, not much use in a pitched space battle. What would be the odds of getting even 1-2 Skiprays for defense alongside the Invincible? After rereading the specs, it seems possible that the Skipray is quite capable of taking on larger craft, making it more acceptable for defensive maneuvers. If the Skipray craft are negative, would the Munificent-class Star Frigate be acceptable? That way it could serve dual purpose as system defense and trade ship. Regarding the large fighter compliment Jace, I was asking about the SPHA to convert one Venator to a gunship, thereby basing most of its complement of fighters at Druckenwell.
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| EchuuShinzon | Date: Friday, 10 Apr 2009, 10:42 PM | Message # 7 |
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| Hm.. I'm going to agree, and disagree with Jace on this one (I seem to be doing that more and more these days). I agree to 1 vessel, but that vessel I would recommend would be a Munificent-class Star Frigate, mostly because of it's dual purpose and the fact that while defending insystem, it can be used as a sort of trading hub (very snazzy if you ask me). I'm going to deny the Skiprays, mostly because I (and this IS my personal opinion) refrain from allowing Skiprays because of their tremendous firepower. The exceptions I make to this rule generally consist of syndicates, which I would let get away with 1-2 of them since it seems unreasonable for a crime family, or a pirate group, to have a giant ISD simply to be able to compete (even at some minor level) with the Imperials or the Republic. That being said, I must regrettably still lean towards DENY on the Skiprays. But APPROVE for 1 Munificent, unless of course you wanted the 1 Munificent in addition to the Invincible--which overall doesn't seem like too grandiose a request--which I would be apprehensive about simply because of the fledgling planet possessing such a massive array of firepower. I could also see one Venator becoming a gunship--though I would second Jace's apprehension towards the fighter compliment and perhaps see a drop in fighter numbers to put you on par with most other factions.
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| Rath-Deschain | Date: Friday, 10 Apr 2009, 11:37 PM | Message # 8 |
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| I wouldn't say no the Invincible and the Munificent. If Druckenwell had no standing defensive fightercraft, it was my intention to leave 90% of the gunship Venator's fightercraft based there to assist the larger ships in defense. In that manner, I make up for the lack of medium and smaller-class ships, working primarily with fighters. If anything, the entire compliment of V-Wings and Eta-2 fighters would remain on Druckenwell, thereby forming the core of a defensive snubfighter screen.
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Friday, 10 Apr 2009, 11:45 PM | Message # 9 |
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| I actually agree with Echuu, in that either an Invincible or a Municifent would be fine. I just assumed Novak would prefer the Invincible, but really either is okay with me (but as you say, both would be problematic). I agree on the Skiprays, and since the Venators and Acclamators are, as aforementioned, roughly on par already with most other forces, I would be reluctant to further beef up their firepower by converting one of them into a gunship. I am glad though, that you would leave a number of fighters at Druckenwell for defense, but even so 1,000 is quite a bit. lol. But probably best to deal with that later. Jace Varitek
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| Rath-Deschain | Date: Saturday, 11 Apr 2009, 10:43 AM | Message # 10 |
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| It's up to management, but I think I'd prefer the Munificent because, as Echuu pointed out, it does serve as a trading hub, which helps. I'd be willing to base more of my fighters at Druckenwell... I was actually going to trade some away for the artillery I'd need to actually go -into- the Diamond cruisers. Lol. So it sort of works out that the ground numbers get bolstered from primarily infantry to infantry with artillery and mechanized support. As for the Venator gunship, I was thinking of (if allowed) setting it as a dedicated guard vessel for the flagship. It would only carry the ARC-170 fighters and have the majority of the bays set up with SPHA for broadsides. That would be the only weapons modifications.
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| EchuuShinzon | Date: Sunday, 12 Apr 2009, 1:06 PM | Message # 11 |
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| Well I never had a problem with the SPHA's and the Venator, so you'll have to clarify that with Jace and get it inline with his recommendations. As for the rest--I think it's all essentially been APPROVED, with the exception of a possible look at your fighter numbers so we can downsize the amount (with the ones your losing being replaced by an indeterminate amount of artillery as you alluded to). Unless of course Jace had any comments to add?
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Friday, 17 Jul 2009, 11:03 AM | Message # 12 |
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| Since this has ended somewhat ambiguously, I think it's safe to say the request is APPROVED based on the last sort of consensus that we had here, and that the conversion of the Venator to a gunship is DENIED. As for the fighters, let's determine that on this thread. Jace Varitek
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