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Ravak-and-LarbenDate: Thursday, 05 Nov 2009, 4:31 AM | Message # 1
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If I recall correctly, this portion:

"This is a formal request for Ravak & Larben Enterprises to be recognized as an official group by this roleplay. The following item(s) would be appreciated regarding this corporation:

1) Ravak & Larben Enterprises is rather 'cloak and dagger' about their whole business. As such, nobody has actually met either designer in person. The only forms of communication have been either via text-based or messages that are simply shown via holoprojector in which the person is a rather unassuming-looking male who delivered the message.

2) Ravak & Larben Enterprises are rather new to this area of the galaxy. They hail from beyond the Outer Rim and as such, their designs are neither well-known or often seen.

3) The vessels designed by Ravak & Larben Enterprises are and will be available for sale to any faction, group or organization who can pay. Their designs, however, are not for sale. Most requests regarding sale of designs will be met with polite refusal.

4) To retain their autonomy and to lower costs, most Ravak & Larben Enterprises orders are shipped via automated bulk carriers equipped with construction droids to the place of ordering, whereupon (providing a shipyard is available), the droids construct the vessel before memory wiping and deactivaing. The vessels themselves initate a random-jump sequence until they return to their masters. If an attempt is made to board one of the vessels in any manner, the vessel self-destructs.

5) For a larger fee, Ravak & Larben Enterprises will construct the required vessel and send it in completed form. Ravak & Larben also rework existing vessels for modifications.

6) Payment is accepted in any form pre-decided between customer and the corporation. "

was approved by Jory. However, I am re-requesting this portion:

1) Under the provision that Ravak & Larben Enterprises is -not- an organization that is trying for galactic control or directly attempting to influence any factions into one position or another:

a) The request of two planets, one temperate and one inhospitable for use by Ravak & Larben Enterprises in an undisclosed location beyond the Outer Rim in the Unknown Regions.

b) The temperate planet acts as a housing area for the few hundred living members of the corporation, including enough agricultural area for feeding of the employees, as well as additional facilities for creating ship components, additional droids for ship construction and smaller vessel components as well as starfighters.

c) The inhospitable planet will not be occupied; acting instead as a testing ground for any weapons and ships the corporation builds.

d) Around both planets would be a quartet of shipyards, primarily automated and manned by droids of various types to create the ships. I reaize this is a high number, but working under the assumption that they provide vessels for other groups not appearing in this roleplay, the corporation likely has a decent amount of existing funds, though relations will be improved with various groups in play to sell vessels.

The re-request is due to the fact that the original request was not fully addressed and completed.

Much appreciated.


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Jace_VaritekDate: Friday, 06 Nov 2009, 2:25 PM | Message # 2
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The request in its entirety, since it was never finalized, has not yet been approved (although Jory did vote to approve the first half and presumably that vote still stands). However, funnily enough my concerns are rather the other way around. The second half of the request is reasonable, but of course it's based on the premise of the first half and that's where I have my reservations. I'm all for shifty shipwrights, but I'm a just a bit uncomfortable with any faction in the RP being utterly impregnable, and irreproachable (especially a corporation, which generally rely on shareholders, publicity, etc., and thus extensive money trails).

I guess what I mean is, simply, that for R&L to be located "beyond the Outer Rim," for no one to ever see Ravak or Larben, to use droids for labor who are then memory wiped, and so on, seems to me rather like a deus ex machina.

It's true that my personal preference would be for a more conventional organization, but as I check myself for bias (as I always do), I think I'm more concerned about all of this rather as a question of fairness to other shipwrights in the RP who run the same risks as R&L but have to deal with the consequences of those risks, which R&L, under this request, would not. Especially in a situation where other shipwrights would be competing with R&L for business, in the RP, I'm reluctant to give one corporation such advantages over another.

I realize I'm rambling, but did that make sense? It was my understanding that your original version of R&L was based on Druckenwell, with a couple of excited, nerdy designers (with glasses, one assumes) leaning over a desk and drawing up designs for their next ship/toy. I thought that was a good setup.

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Jace_VaritekDate: Friday, 06 Nov 2009, 2:27 PM | Message # 3
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(Also, sorry that this request was never fully addressed the first time around. I don't make excuses for that, but it was, as I recall, around the time that the site was slowing down significantly, and would soon thereafter be closed. But anyway, won't happen again).

Jace "Wonders What his New Rank Will Be at Post #200" Varitek


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Ravak-and-LarbenDate: Sunday, 08 Nov 2009, 0:31 AM | Message # 4
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I don't normally like airing the open spots that people can take advantage of in an RP situation. However, in hindsight, R&L Enterprises does seem rather impregnable. I'm willing to illustrate some of the ways their security can be worked around. Case in point, while the construction ships themselves cannot be boarded, there is no security measure barring someone from attaching a homing beacon. The droids only memory-wipe once construction is completed. Therefore, if someone were to snatch and grab a droid, they could have full access to the memory of said droid. There are plenty of cracks in the corporation's armor, I just don't like spreading the obvious weaknesses out in the open for everyone to exploit without trial and error. I suppose if someone tried hard enough, they could 'meet' Ravak and Larben face to face. The shipwrights aren't very social creatures though; hence their enjoyment of privacy. I can toss in some additional changes as needed, if that helps.

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Jace_VaritekDate: Monday, 09 Nov 2009, 2:49 PM | Message # 5
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I suppose it's not quite as impregnable as I'd assumed, then. Although I'd still personally prefer a more traditional setup, I realize that's just my preference and thus I'm inclined to approve of the request. The last reservation I have, however, is on Ravak and Larben themselves. I understand you want them to be mysterious figures, and that's perfectly fine, however for the purpose of the request it would be good to know, OOC, who they are and how they've come into the resources to found their own shipwright. I think on the first request you said you were planning a profile for them; in the meantime, just some cursory information would be helpful, then I promise I'll stop holding up this request, lol.

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Ravak-and-LarbenDate: Monday, 09 Nov 2009, 2:51 PM | Message # 6
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Fair enough. I'll trot out the profile(s).

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Jace_VaritekDate: Tuesday, 10 Nov 2009, 10:53 PM | Message # 7
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Very impressed with the history. Well done. I vote to APPROVE (finally).

Jace Varitek


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OrionKarathDate: Thursday, 12 Nov 2009, 9:18 PM | Message # 8
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Approve

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Jory_CarsonDate: Sunday, 15 Nov 2009, 9:10 AM | Message # 9
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