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Driving off Verilia's Ships OOC
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| LordZarcaine | Date: Thursday, 29 Sep 2011, 6:01 PM | Message # 1 |
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| Okay, so I've got a question. Looking at the Monor II ship request which is listed below
4x IPV-1 System Patrol Craft
4x Guardian-class Light Cruiser (mounted with fighter racks)
24x Toscan 8-Q Starfighters
Which was approved, which I have no problem with. What I'm questioning is this
Quote 4x IPV-1 System Patrol Craft, 4x Guardian-class Light Cruiser, 40x TIE Fighters, 24x Toscan 8-Q Starfighters moved from the point where they had been delivered
The above request shows that only the Guardian-Class Light Cruiers (mounted with fighter racks) was approved. I see nothing in the above request that approved 40 TIE Fighters. Can we get management to clear this up. I'm just wondering since I know that most ships when requested also needed to have their compliments of starfighters also requested.
Lord Zarcaine Kuriyoshi
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| Agapos_the_Ninth | Date: Thursday, 29 Sep 2011, 6:03 PM | Message # 2 |
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| So far as I am aware a ship comes with its compliment unless otherwise specified...
"Complement
TIE/ln starfighter (10; external rack)"
- Wookieepedia
His Most Holy Majesty Priest Prince Agapos IX
Divine Ruler of Monor II, Lord of the Heavens, Charioteer of the Wagon of the Sun, Steersman of the Barque of the Sun, Guardian of the Secret Knowledge, Lord of the Horizon, Keeper of the Way, the Flail of Mercy, the High Born One, the Never Dying King &c
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| LordZarcaine | Date: Thursday, 29 Sep 2011, 6:13 PM | Message # 3 |
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| I'm unsure if they do or not, if they do, then I'm lacking some fighters that should have come with some of my past request. That's why I've asked managment to clarify this.
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| Agapos_the_Ninth | Date: Thursday, 29 Sep 2011, 6:22 PM | Message # 4 |
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| Jamie . says
You only need to request ships fighter compliments if you want something out of the ordinary right?
Jaron said
Yea
Jaron says
Out of the ordinary being either a really unique make-up or something other than the canon/traditional complement
Such as, if you request a Venator or Lucrehulk or Providence, you'd have to request the complement for it as well
Or if you want a Victory Star Destroyer with all TIE Bombers or all Y-Wings
Jamie . says
Yeah
But say if its a nebulon b it has its 24 TIEs as standard, a guardian has its 10 if requested?
Jaron says
Typically
That, or similar craft
Jamie . says
Mind if I copy it over to him?
His Most Holy Majesty Priest Prince Agapos IX
Divine Ruler of Monor II, Lord of the Heavens, Charioteer of the Wagon of the Sun, Steersman of the Barque of the Sun, Guardian of the Secret Knowledge, Lord of the Horizon, Keeper of the Way, the Flail of Mercy, the High Born One, the Never Dying King &c
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| OrionKarath | Date: Thursday, 29 Sep 2011, 6:46 PM | Message # 5 |
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| Yes, unless I am mistaken, which could be but doubtful, we only require complements be included within requests should they deviate from canon stated complements, or similar complements. Such as, if you replace a Nebulon-B's two TIE Fighter squadrons with two X-Wing squadrons, as a working example, this would not need to be requests. Since it has shown some leeway too, a mixture would be acceptable (i.e. one TIE Fighter squadron and one TIE Bomber squadron or one X-Wing squadron and one Y-Wing squadron). However, if you did something like, a Nebulon-B with two TIE Avenger or TIE Defender squadrons, or alternatively two E-Wing or K-Wing squadrons (for sake of argument), this would most likely have to be requested. If you replace craft with another of similar size and capability, this would be fine too.
I've always treated this as such when regarding requests, considering actual requested fighters, unless otherwise stated, as additional fighters. If you look on the Planetary Fleets listing, which is at the bottom half of the Imperial Navy listing, here, which I just spent three to four hours updating and editing, you will find several fleets with additional fighters listed. You will notice however, Deralia, has no fighters listed. In the request however, here (and yes, I know the names of the ships have changed), the complement for the Venator, due to the need to change it, was requested in addition to the ship, thus, that is the ship's complement. Listing ship's complements independently of the ships themselves makes it unseemly to maintain a list of various fleets, but fighters in addition to capital ship complements need to be listed for accountability purposes.
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| LordZarcaine | Date: Thursday, 29 Sep 2011, 6:52 PM | Message # 6 |
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| Thanks Orion
Lord Zarcaine Kuriyoshi
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| OrionKarath | Date: Thursday, 29 Sep 2011, 7:01 PM | Message # 7 |
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| No problem. I would give you guys some solid numbers for this instance to work with, but I can't find anything solidly stating what Verilia has at Monor II.
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| LordZarcaine | Date: Thursday, 29 Sep 2011, 7:09 PM | Message # 8 |
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| I'm currently writting down the ships along with the compliments they come with and I'll get them up sometime tonight.
Lord Zarcaine Kuriyoshi
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