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Question about Blackfire Contacts
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Sunday, 03 Jun 2012, 10:56 PM | Message # 1 |
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| Suppose I'm a wealthy sort who's favorably disposed to criminal methods and I want to make use of Blackfire's services (or the Citadel's, if I understand that correctly to be the "parent organization"). How would I go about contacting them if they cover their tracks so thoroughly that no one knows they exist? (Not trying to be sarcastic here—I'm genuinely curious for a storyline I'm throwing together).
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Sunday, 03 Jun 2012, 10:58 PM | Message # 2 |
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| (But it so happens the answer to the question is probably fairly important to assessing the Citadel's success or failure as a criminal organization).
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| Karth_DeQora | Date: Sunday, 03 Jun 2012, 11:03 PM | Message # 3 |
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| Their number's in the phonebook, didn'tja know?
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Sunday, 03 Jun 2012, 11:11 PM | Message # 4 |
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| Supposing you were the wealthy sort in this case who was lucky or fortunate enough to know someone in the know, so to speak, it would go something like this:
Said wealthy person either gains access to contacting one of the Blackfire agents, or contacts someone who is 'run' by them, largely in a roundabout way (in the case of certain pawns such as Malos Yhemn, Yhemn has built a small but efficient group that reports back to him), then that particular pawn or agent, depending on the contact made, risks involved and whatnot, will take it back to the eleven Blackfire members who actually run Blackfire. From there, it is assessed whether or not it would be more efficient to handle it at Blackfire's level (extortion, minor assassinations of small to moderate targets, piracy, larceny, etc.) or pass it up to the Citadel.
Albeit, Blackfire doesn't know about Citadel; there's a handful of Citadel members who oversee Blackfire. Much as Blackfire's pawns don't know the name of the organization they work for necessarily, Blackfire doesn't know much about the Citadel, other than the money flows downhill. If it's a major job to be undertaken, the specialists in the Citadel come into play, but by and large, Citadel is made up of more than just killers; it's also a think-tank in some ways. The upper, upper echelon of Citadel were handpicked by Stark.
Alyn Stark
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Sunday, 03 Jun 2012, 11:20 PM | Message # 5 |
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| I'm trying to think of a way to contract with them for a storyline, but I'm having a hard time seeing my character talking loosely about his plans with someone who, unbeknownst to him, just so happens to work for Blackfire. "I know a guy who knows a guy who can do this for you" also doesn't seem like a comforting assurance of success and confidentiality that, say, going to Tenloss or the Hutts or another known quantity would provide.
Jace Varitek
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My recent posts here, pre-2009 archives here
"When my information changes, I change my opinion. What do you do, sir?"
—John Maynard Keynes
Furthermore, a dancing Wookiee:
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Sunday, 03 Jun 2012, 11:29 PM | Message # 6 |
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| It's also quite possible that, if said character were already involved in shady dealings, they might be approached by one of Blackfire's agents to see if said person is recruitable material, or could be profitable for Blackfire.
Alyn Stark
Lord of Kinyov
Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy
Head of House Malos (former)
Licensed bounty hunter
Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering
Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate
Civilian Medal of Honor recipient
Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Sunday, 03 Jun 2012, 11:36 PM | Message # 7 |
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| This is true, although I thought Blackfire's/Citadel's thing was doing shady deeds for reputable clients. If you're already known to be involved in shady things, there's no need for subterfuge.
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My recent posts here, pre-2009 archives here
"When my information changes, I change my opinion. What do you do, sir?"
—John Maynard Keynes
Furthermore, a dancing Wookiee:
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Sunday, 03 Jun 2012, 11:39 PM | Message # 8 |
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| That is one of the services they offer. Say though, a wealthy man is involved in the hiring of, oh, say, something moderately shady, or even minor. Say he hires small bands of pirates from time to time to hinder a rival shipping company. If Blackfire sees a benefit in stepping in and contacting said man, they'll do so and offer better services; perhaps wiping out the opposing company in one fell blow.
Obviously your character doesn't sound like he's too deep in shady dealings, though. Still, if he's wealthy then it's quite possible.
Alyn Stark
Lord of Kinyov
Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy
Head of House Malos (former)
Licensed bounty hunter
Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering
Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate
Civilian Medal of Honor recipient
Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Sunday, 03 Jun 2012, 11:53 PM | Message # 9 |
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| I'm kind of on two tracks here—on the one hand, I want to bring Blackfire into this storyline. And on the other hand, I'm also being quizzical here because I'm broadly interested in Blackfire's business model. (In case you're wondering why I'm grilling you here, it's for these reasons). It just seems to me Blackfire is putting itself at a disadvantage, because if you're wealthy and even if you're dabbled in shady dealings here and there, if you want a job done your Plan A isn't going to be to sit and wait until a criminal organization notices that you look a guy with something on his mind. You'd seek out someone to provide the service for you, and you'd make that decision based on their known track record of success or failure. With no track record at all, it seems like 9 times out of 10 potential customers would choose a known quantity over an organization they haven't heard of, would they not? What if Blackfire approaches someone with this too-good-to-be-true offer and it turns out to be an Imperial Intelligence sting, for instance? It just seems to me you're putting yourself at a big disadvantage; big enough, at least, that I'm having a hard time seeing how to bring Blackfire into this storyline. Karth knows the storyline too, though.. maybe he has an idea? (Without giving too much away).
Jace Varitek
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My recent posts here, pre-2009 archives here
"When my information changes, I change my opinion. What do you do, sir?"
—John Maynard Keynes
Furthermore, a dancing Wookiee:
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| Karth_DeQora | Date: Sunday, 03 Jun 2012, 11:55 PM | Message # 10 |
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| You could, uh... put out a classifieds ad I guess.
In all honesty, I'm too tired atm to brainstorm anything remotely akin to a cogent thought, much less an idea.
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Sunday, 03 Jun 2012, 11:58 PM | Message # 11 |
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| I'm pretty tired too. I'm being redundant and also redundant.
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"When my information changes, I change my opinion. What do you do, sir?"
—John Maynard Keynes
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| Karth_DeQora | Date: Sunday, 03 Jun 2012, 11:59 PM | Message # 12 |
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| Did we smoke pot or something? Feels like it, maaan...
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Jace Varitek: In Northern California we just have gangs of vigilante interior decorators.
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| Karth_DeQora | Date: Monday, 04 Jun 2012, 0:00 AM | Message # 13 |
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| Even though I'm sober, just thinking about pot suddenly made me ravenously hungry. The eff.
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Jace Varitek: In Northern California we just have gangs of vigilante interior decorators.
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| Karth_DeQora | Date: Monday, 04 Jun 2012, 0:02 AM | Message # 14 |
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| Update: I am now eating meatloaf, stay tuned for my post-meal guilt.
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Monday, 04 Jun 2012, 0:03 AM | Message # 15 |
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| Well see Jace, that's why they have pawns as well. Case in point, Yhemn would be the sort to have a reputation to approach, or his crew, if someone wanted something done. He's not exactly an unknown quantity, or so I put forth in his profile. He's not big time, but he's not small time either. Of course, being a pawn, if it was an Imperial Intel sting, he'd not have much information he could turn over. It's broken down into cells for a reason.
If you'll note though, in Stark's profile, it mentions Citadel having contacts among the Hutt Cartel and even certain members within the Imperials. It's quite possible that your man went to one of these sources who happened to route them to Blackfire instead.
Alyn Stark
Lord of Kinyov
Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy
Head of House Malos (former)
Licensed bounty hunter
Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering
Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate
Civilian Medal of Honor recipient
Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
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