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Extending the Olive Branch OOC
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| Xalden | Date: Saturday, 16 Jun 2012, 9:35 PM | Message # 1 |
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| I spoke to Jace earlier on Messenger about my concern over the Blaze Trooper Armor and the Shadow Trooper armor and was told that it was "OTT" and my understanding was that said armor would have needed to be requested. Below are links to both armors.
Clone Blaze Trooper
Clone Shadow Trooper
Due to their uniqueness I personally would find it hard to believe that this type of armor would have been left just laying about.
Xalden the Black
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Saturday, 16 Jun 2012, 9:45 PM | Message # 2 |
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| I concur. It is indeed my opinion that this type of armor for NPC's is over-the-top. Shadow Trooper armor is basically stealth armor, and to quote myself from a much, much earlier request:
Quote (Jace_Varitek) Shadow Stormtroopers; they should never be used as standard complements. According to Wookieepedia, "a squad of shadow stormtroopers formed a bodyguard" for Carnor Jax. I don't think I need to point out that "a squad" is 12 men; also, Kir Kanos killed all of them. So I don't really see a convincing justification for why Cross should have any.
And I think the Blaze Trooper armor is manifestly "overpowered," especially, again, for NPC's to be using.
Jace Varitek
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My recent posts here, pre-2009 archives here
"When my information changes, I change my opinion. What do you do, sir?"
—John Maynard Keynes
Furthermore, a dancing Wookiee:
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Saturday, 16 Jun 2012, 9:46 PM | Message # 3 |
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| Moreover, whether they're common enough to be found lying around seems like something management should have a chance to weigh in on.
Jace Varitek
Manager/Administrator from January 2003 to Present
My recent posts here, pre-2009 archives here
"When my information changes, I change my opinion. What do you do, sir?"
—John Maynard Keynes
Furthermore, a dancing Wookiee:
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| Blackfire_Contacts | Date: Sunday, 17 Jun 2012, 8:50 AM | Message # 4 |
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| If I may, Jace, the Shadow Stormtrooper is different from the Clone shadow trooper, especially as I am not utilizing the shadow trooper armor with the magseals. For the clone blaze trooper armor, Jace, I leave it up to you. I see a multitude of drawbacks that prevent it from being truly overpowered. However, if you'd prefer I retcon it to standard Phase-II clone armor, I will do so.
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| Xalden | Date: Sunday, 17 Jun 2012, 8:56 AM | Message # 5 |
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| I would like to point out the following from the Equipment part of the Shadow Trooper article.
Quote As a further modification, the Phase II armor was covered with a sensor reflective material, which absorbed active scans. It was also protected from passive scans by thermal dampers and electro-magnetic hardening. The visor of the helmet gave off a red glow, which, in conjunction with their dark appearance, was considered intimidating by some. Some shadow troopers would wear kamas and pauldrons.
Omni-directional jammers further enhanced the shadow trooper's invisibility, although with such devices in operation, they usually could not operate in close proximity with standard clone troopers, whose helmet systems would suffer the effects of the jamming.
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| Blackfire_Contacts | Date: Sunday, 17 Jun 2012, 9:35 AM | Message # 6 |
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| Point away, Carl. Though I'm assuming if it's base, cast-off picked up armor that they don't have the omni-directional jammers. Sensor reflective material doesn't make someone invisible either; not like the Shadowtroopers of, say, Galak Fyarr's Reborn forces. Added (17 Jun 2012, 9:35 AM)
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It's also your post, Carl.
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Sunday, 17 Jun 2012, 6:06 PM | Message # 7 |
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| Pardon me, I was saying "Shadow Stormtroopers" but referring to the "Clone Shadow Troopers." This is, in fact, what I meant and it's the material I was looking at when I formed my opinion, which remains the same. Moreover, if we're saying that these sets of armor don't actually have the distinguishing characteristic of Clone Shadow Trooper armor, it's probably easiest to avoid the confusion altogether and scrap the Clone Shadow Trooper armor idea in favor of more pedestrian armor instead, which wouldn't need to be requested.
Jace Varitek
Manager/Administrator from January 2003 to Present
My recent posts here, pre-2009 archives here
"When my information changes, I change my opinion. What do you do, sir?"
—John Maynard Keynes
Furthermore, a dancing Wookiee:
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