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OOC: Of Their Own Accord
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| Orion_Karath | Date: Wednesday, 23 Jan 2013, 11:09 PM | Message # 1 |
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| I hate to do this right out of the gate; but I'm having trouble seeing any relevance, timing wise, to the Libs in this thread at this point. Right now, it's a simple briefing between Heller and Karath. While we've been waiting over a week on Heller to post, it's still a briefing. The Empire hasn't even attempted insertion yet, and you're already posting the Libs attempt at an evacuation. While I could be wrong, it was my understanding that the Empire was attempting simultaneous attacks on the Libs to disorient and cripple, if not completely eliminate, the organization. I'm sorry, but it just seems to me that this is an abuse of OOC information and not relevant to the timing of the RP and the actual timeframe advancement/relativity.
Major Orion "Reaper" Karath
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| Darius_Vaughn | Date: Thursday, 24 Jan 2013, 2:57 AM | Message # 2 |
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| Just a note, on Tremaine's behalf. He's had roughly between an hour and an hour and a half to expect an attack coming. Why he is posting an escape so soon in this case, I am not sure, but that may explain the Libs' willingness to try and get shit together.
Darius Vaughn
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| Captain_Heller | Date: Thursday, 24 Jan 2013, 12:17 PM | Message # 3 |
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| Why now when Tremaine hasn't given any indication for days now that he intends to evacuate Felucia? Despite me not posting because I've been sick, the Felucia operation is occurring on the same time-table as the rest of the more-or-less simultaneous operations. Tremaine's post mentions heavy losses at Haruun Kal, Jabiim, etc. It shouldn't, because those events haven't occurred yet at the time of the Felucia thread (which could, right now, be as much as 24 hours before Haruun Kal, etc.). But more to the point, doesn't it appear here as though the Libs had no intention of evacuating until they knew OOC that Felucia was going to be hit too? Felucia wasn't going to be hit originally, but the plan ended up changing. Just seems too convenient that the Libs plans happened to change as well. Added (24 Jan 2013, 12:17 PM)
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Not saying they can't escape. If that's what happens, I'm ok with it. But escaping as many as 24 hours before anything has happened seems to be jumping the gun a bit.
Clive Winston Heller
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| Ars_Dangor | Date: Thursday, 24 Jan 2013, 1:49 PM | Message # 4 |
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| Somewhat off-topic, but a fun fact: the Empire doesn't actually know if there's a Libs base on Felucia or not. Karath's team is just on a recon mission, not an invasion or anything like that. The odds of them actually finding the Libs base are probably pretty slim. A needle in a haystack doesn't begin to describe it. Though I suspect a lot of Libs people moving around evacuating things is going to tip off the Imperials immediately.
Vizier Ars Dangor
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| Orion_Karath | Date: Thursday, 24 Jan 2013, 2:16 PM | Message # 5 |
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| Indeed. As has been pointed out, they can escape. They can still evacuate. But doing it now or any earlier than detection of the team seems too OOC motivated to me. In addition, I believe that Deschain left to infiltrate the Libs again, without any suggestion that the Empire was going to move on Felucia. In fact, I believe the messages in question have the military saying that they will not move on Felucia. So Deschain would have zero knowledge of this operation. I don't see where his warning comes into play.
As is being pointed out, this is a recon mission. One designed for stealth and zero detection by the Libs, but simply that. Depending on the force present at the base, and environmental factors, Karath's force couldn't reasonably assault the base. I'm not saying he won't try; but the odds in this environment aren't good. And has also been pointed out, any evacuation might not work in favor ofthe Libs as it would be akin to shooting off a flare for the Empire to find them. I'm not trying to dictate what happens here, or anything; I merely have a concern that I felt needed to be noted.
Major Orion "Reaper" Karath
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| Darius_Vaughn | Date: Thursday, 24 Jan 2013, 3:51 PM | Message # 6 |
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| Well, Deschain's warning to the Libs was more or less that they had a generalized strike on Libs outposts.
Darius Vaughn
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| Orion_Karath | Date: Saturday, 26 Jan 2013, 1:21 AM | Message # 7 |
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| Heller informed me he is dropping out. Give me about twenty-four hours from now to get a continuation post up. I'll try to make sure it gets into my actually being on Felucia. Would it be possible to get the Tremaine and Jalaila posts deleted or something, since they are inappropriately timed? Tremaine has agreed, more or less, with my complaint in private. Why he won't say this, here, publicly... I don't know.
Major Orion "Reaper" Karath
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| Tremaine_Fowlkes | Date: Saturday, 26 Jan 2013, 4:16 AM | Message # 8 |
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| Go ahead and delete both posts. The reason I haven't mentioned it was because the whole time I was online was because I had been focused entirely on helping my roommate find a place to live in the South.
Tremaine Fowlkes
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