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Prisoners of War (Planetary) Work and Welfare Act
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| Ilanah_Thanatos | Date: Sunday, 29 May 2011, 5:52 PM | Message # 16 |
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| Are you suggesting your speciesist statement as an amendment, Governor Oswaldt?
If so, Chandrila will be voting against this measure.
If not, Chandrila will vote for the measure, pending the acceptance of Senator Rays reasonable amendment.
Ilanah R. Thanatos
Senator of Chandrila
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| Titus_Veritas | Date: Sunday, 29 May 2011, 6:00 PM | Message # 17 |
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| Very well, Senator Ray, you have made your case. I accept your amendment.
Governor Oswaldt, this legislation applies to any legal combatant, regardless of species.
Viceroy Titus Veritas, House Veritas
Consul of the House of Lords
Former Senator of Deralia and the Tammuz Sector (50 BBY - 30 BBY, 18 BBY - 10 BBY)
Former Chairman of the Imperial Senate Defense Committee (18 BBY - 10 BBY)
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| Johannes_Oswaldt | Date: Sunday, 29 May 2011, 6:58 PM | Message # 18 |
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| Then I vote against. Theres no way I'm treating aliens who attack Eriadu better than aliens who live on Eriadu. Thats what this bill would require
Johannes Oswaldt
Senator and Governor of Eriadu
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| LomenRyuun | Date: Monday, 30 May 2011, 11:04 AM | Message # 19 |
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| Druckenwell approves of this measure and votes in favor.
Governor Oswaldt, do try to be a decent fellow and see the vote for what it is instead of letting yourself be blinded by the alien aspect.
Lomen Ryuun
Senator, Doldur Sector
Senator, Druckenwell
Representative, Monor II (10 BBY - 9 BBY)
Representative, Geridard
Representative, Boranall
Representative, Therenor Prime
Vice-chairman, Defense Committee (Temporarily suspended)
Controlling Shareholder - Druckenwell Arms Corporation
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| Exar_Ray | Date: Monday, 30 May 2011, 5:27 PM | Message # 20 |
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| Since my amendment has been approved, I vote in favor.
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| Eli_Fitzgerald | Date: Tuesday, 31 May 2011, 6:10 PM | Message # 21 |
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| Ralltiir supports Senator Ray's amendment and votes in favor of the bill.
Eli Fitzgerald
Senator of Ralltiir (10 BBY—Present)
"I was elected to do some flamethrowing in the Senate. To a light a fire under those Senators and make it hot for them."
Message edited by Eli_Fitzgerald - Tuesday, 31 May 2011, 6:10 PM |
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| Slai-Fon | Date: Tuesday, 31 May 2011, 6:21 PM | Message # 22 |
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| I am guessing your act wouldn't apply for High Value Target's would they? Say if we were to catch some of the higher ranked criminals against the empire. Such as Commander Baird as he calls him self. Would he have the same right? to work to prove his keep? or would he simply be tortured?
Slai-Fon Youngblood, Senator of Anobis, and the Bright Jewel sector
Chairman of ISEC (Imperial Senate Ethic's Committee.)
Chairman & CEO of K/Y deep.
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| Senator_Cambrist | Date: Tuesday, 31 May 2011, 8:46 PM | Message # 23 |
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| Excuse me, Sir, this bill applies to legal combatants, not to rebels or "criminals." And I would thank you not to assume that the Empire has some habit of "torturing" its prisoners. There are times when rigorous interrogation is necessary, yes, and there are times when it isn't. When it's necessary, I expect it would be done, and when it isn't, it wouldn't. The bill has nothing to do with Mr. Baird, but whether or not he would be subject to rigorous interrogation depends on the circumstances of his capture and would not (and should not) be our decision to make.
With respect to aliens, it was not my understanding that it is Imperial policy to regard alien species as equal under the law.
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| Toben-Domon | Date: Saturday, 04 Jun 2011, 10:55 AM | Message # 24 |
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| That seems a bit unfair, Senator Cambrist, if I may put it nicely. After all, some of us 'aliens' are quite loyal to the Empire.
Toben Domon
Senator, Sluis Van
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| Senator_Cambrist | Date: Saturday, 04 Jun 2011, 9:36 PM | Message # 25 |
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| I hadn't intended to be unfair, Senator Domon. Quite the opposite, actually, because equality isn't necessarily fair—a Wookiee on a men's grav-ball team wouldn't be fair, for instance. Or, to use a more relevant example, requiring the Sluis Van Shipyards to be an "equal opportunity employer" and hire inanimate life forms, like algae or crystals, to build ships wouldn't be fair. There are differences between the species, and it seems fair to me that any law attempting to differentiate between them should be based primarily around Humans, as a plurality in this galaxy. This is my understanding of Imperial policy. I mention it only to remind the large number of Senators who seem to have forgotten this, including even Senator Veritas who, as a committee chair, is expected to reflect Imperial policy in defense matters.
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| Sate_Pestage | Date: Thursday, 09 Jun 2011, 10:50 AM | Message # 26 |
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| Does Senator Veritas intend to address this? Or shall the debate on the measure be concluded?
Sate Pestage
Grand Vizier of the Empire
Assistant to Emperor Palpatine
Chair of the Imperial Senate
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| Sate_Pestage | Date: Saturday, 18 Jun 2011, 1:49 AM | Message # 27 |
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| I see Senator Veritas appears to be... consulting his notes, and for quite some time now. It is the opinion of the chair that he does not intend to address the criticism of Senator Cambrist. The vote is thus closed, and the measure passes with 89% in favor and 11% opposed. For the record, Senator Domon, your vote has been counted in favor of the measure. You may appeal this, of course, if I've misapprehended you.
Sate Pestage
Grand Vizier of the Empire
Assistant to Emperor Palpatine
Chair of the Imperial Senate
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