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Private Capital Vessels Act
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| Roman_Lekpin | Date: Thursday, 29 Nov 2012, 6:00 AM | Message # 16 |
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| I have read over this legislature, and while it is decently written, I cannot vote in favor until certain changes have been made.
Roman Lekpin
Representative, Lorrd (11 BBY-10 BBY) (9 BBY-Present)
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| Senator_Cambrist | Date: Thursday, 29 Nov 2012, 1:02 PM | Message # 17 |
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| What would these changes be, Senator Lekpin? I'm sure Senator Oriel is willing to entertain further amendments to this legislation.
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| Bernard_Oriel | Date: Thursday, 29 Nov 2012, 11:04 PM | Message # 18 |
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| If there are indeed proposed amendments forthcoming, not simply proposed amendments which are never made - As Senator Ryuun has made a hobby of lately.
Bernard Oriel
Senator for the Planet of Vjun
1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation)
Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
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| Roman_Lekpin | Date: Friday, 30 Nov 2012, 3:08 PM | Message # 19 |
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| Of course, Senator Cambrist.
I. All ships should be ensured to four times their worth. Not simply three.
II. From my understanding of the BoSS and the Encyclopedia Galactica, "all registered spacers were issued with a BoSS datapad, which was to be shown to all port officials and Imperial boarding parties upon request." From this understanding, the Ship's Operating License, Captain's Accredited License and Arms Load-out Permit seem to be standard parts of items necessary to conduct trade and travel. These portions of your legislature are therefore unnecessary.
III. The issue allowing sector governments to approve or deny private capital vessels in their sector can lead to favoritism or possibly monopolistic issues. Say for example Company X and Company Y both having mining operations in a sector. Both rely on corporate (privately) owned capital vessels to transport their goods. If Company X pays more of a fee to the sector government or institutes bribery and the sector government bans the allowance of Company Y's capital vessels, Company Y is forced to either loose massive profit or take a massive cut by using smaller craft in greater numbers. As such, this issue cannot be left open-ended.
IV. A private capital vessel is exactly that, private. If for an example, a personal yacht falls under the jurisdiction of a Sector Moff who wishes to institute a political officer aboard a private yacht, at the owner's expense at that, isn't that a little ridiculous?
Roman Lekpin
Representative, Lorrd (11 BBY-10 BBY) (9 BBY-Present)
Chosen of House Garth
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| Bernard_Oriel | Date: Saturday, 01 Dec 2012, 2:34 AM | Message # 20 |
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| If the Sector Moff wants a political officer on a militarized yacht, then I say he be free to do so, clearly and in Imperial Law.
I also believe Imperial Sector Governors to be suitably impartial.
As for insurance values; I solicit Senator Cambrist for the opinion of his Commerce Committee?
Bernard Oriel
Senator for the Planet of Vjun
1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation)
Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
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| Senator_Cambrist | Date: Tuesday, 04 Dec 2012, 7:07 PM | Message # 21 |
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| Insuring a capital-grade vessel for four rather than three times its worth isn't of much consequence as far as the Commerce Committee is concerned except that there'd be an inherent advantage for Core-based shipowners, who are more likely to be able to afford the coverage. Three times the ship's value is adequate, certainly. But beyond this, the Committee has no formal opinion on this amendment. I support the bill either way.
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| Verence_Terrawin | Date: Wednesday, 05 Dec 2012, 9:17 AM | Message # 22 |
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| With the Commerce Committee supporting this act as amended, I vote in Favour.
Verence Terrawin
Senator of Alsakan
First Lord of the Foreign Office, Alsakan
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| Sate_Pestage | Date: Thursday, 06 Dec 2012, 10:07 PM | Message # 23 |
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| So that the record is clear, Senator Oriel, your expression of confidence in the impartiality of Imperial sector governors can be understood as a rejection of Senator Lekpin's proposed 3rd amendment, yes?
Sate Pestage
Grand Vizier of the Empire
Assistant to Emperor Palpatine
Chair of the Imperial Senate
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| Bernard_Oriel | Date: Monday, 10 Dec 2012, 2:18 PM | Message # 24 |
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| That would be correct your Excellency.
I note with interest that Private citizen Alyn Stark lead a force of armed civilian ships (including one which was clearly capital-class) against the Auril Sector forces while they were in conflict with Lorrdian forces. I really don't wish to be intemperate in my criticism, but I don't think it's appropriate to deploy what is fundamentally a civilian yacht into a warzone at all, and less so to engage Capital ships - to do so is a careless disregard of the lives of the many civilian crew aboard.
Bernard Oriel
Senator for the Planet of Vjun
1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation)
Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
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| Roman_Lekpin | Date: Monday, 10 Dec 2012, 3:13 PM | Message # 25 |
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| If I may beg to differ, Senator Oriel, firstly, the ship in question, while being a converted yacht, does have the proper paperwork already consisting of Ship's Operating License, the Captain's Accredited License and an Arms Loadout Permit. These items are on file with the Bureau of Ships and Services and furthermore, the ship itself was check out upon initial purchase and modification by the Sector Moff.
When you refer to the 'civilian crew' on board, I believe you refer to the handpicked members of the Castle Stark guard force that have engaged in bounty hunting with Lord Stark in the past. All crew are aware of the dangers at hand. Trying to discredit Lord Stark from exercising his ability as a reserve force within the Lorrdian Defense Forces, and the men with him who also serve in such a capacity, is quite a low blow, Senator.
Roman Lekpin
Representative, Lorrd (11 BBY-10 BBY) (9 BBY-Present)
Chosen of House Garth
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| Toben-Domon | Date: Sunday, 16 Dec 2012, 12:39 PM | Message # 26 |
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| So you 'believe the sector governors to be fully impartial'? Tell me then, Senator Oriel, and while I do not cast aspersions, why is it that Moff Kristoph Pike, formerly of the Doldur Sector, was caught in a homosexual affair with Aaron Fox, formerly of that joke EPIC company? Can you tell me he wouldn't have shown favoritism? Chairman Pestage, I'd like your thoughts on this matter. While I do not call down the Imperial Ruling Body in any way, shape or form, I'll still remind everyone that some people do make mistakes.
Toben Domon
Senator, Sluis Van
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| Senator_Ordan | Date: Sunday, 16 Dec 2012, 7:13 PM | Message # 27 |
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| Will the Chair not call this alien to order for his prurient over-interest in human sexuality?
Senator Hubert Ordan
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| LomenRyuun | Date: Monday, 17 Dec 2012, 5:05 AM | Message # 28 |
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| Senator Domon has a very valid point, and it is something I bring up into question as well.
Lomen Ryuun
Senator, Doldur Sector
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| Verence_Terrawin | Date: Monday, 17 Dec 2012, 10:47 AM | Message # 29 |
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| I for one am not shocked at Senator Ryuun's fascination with this homosexual affair.
Verence Terrawin
Senator of Alsakan
First Lord of the Foreign Office, Alsakan
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| Sate_Pestage | Date: Tuesday, 18 Dec 2012, 1:00 PM | Message # 30 |
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| Senator Domon is called to order. I fail to see what his point is or why it's relevant. The measure passes unanimously.
Sate Pestage
Grand Vizier of the Empire
Assistant to Emperor Palpatine
Chair of the Imperial Senate
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