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The Highly Destructive Ordnance Act
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| LomenRyuun | Date: Saturday, 01 Jan 2011, 12:19 PM | Message # 1 |
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| The Highly Destructive Ordnance Act (Planetary) Purpose The purpose of this act is to prevent the use of highly destructive ordnance of the non-conventional sort against the Empire and its affiliate planets. Intent This act does not prevent the peaceful scientific research and development or scientific or commercial use of the ordnance mentioned in this act. Prohibitions With Respect to Destructive Ordnance Whoever knowingly develops, produces, stockpiles, transfers, acquires, retains, or possesses any highly destructive ordnance for use as a weapon, or knowingly assists a foreign state or any organization to do so, shall be fined no less than one billion credits or imprisoned for life or both. The term 'for use as a weapon' does not include the development, production, transfer, acquisition, retention, or possession of any highly destructive ordnance for prophylactic, commercial, or other peaceful purposes. Seizure, Forfeiture and Destruction The Chairman of the Defense Committee may request the issuance, in the same manner as provided for a search warrant, of a warrant authorizing the seizure of any highly destructive ordnance that:
- 1) Exists by reason of conduct as prohibited above.
- 2) Is of a type or quantity that under the circumstances has no apparent justification for prophylactic, commercial, or other peaceful purposes.
Definition
The term 'highly destructive ordnance' means any explosive, radiative, or high-yield substance capable of:
- 1) Causing irreversible radiation damage to human and alien life.
- 2) Rendering cites, portions of cities or other parts of a planet inhospitable by reason of radiative fallout or direct explosive force.
- 3) Falling under, but not limited to, the following categories of non-conventional highly destructive ordnance:
- A) Nuclear
- B) Anti-matter
- C) Neutron-based
- D) Atomic compression
- D) Radiation
- 4) Explosive weapons (traveling under their own power or fired from some kind of device) with a yield of over 5 (five) standard turbo laser blasts shall be considered to be highly destructive ordnance and their use shall henceforth be restricted from use by planetary forces or civilians. This shall not apply to explosive charges used for demolitions, deforestation, mining etc but rather military applications only (if a question arises it shall be determined by the Sector Moff or his duly appointed representative)."
Lomen Ryuun
Senator, Doldur Sector
Senator, Druckenwell
Representative, Monor II (10 BBY - 9 BBY)
Representative, Geridard
Representative, Boranall
Representative, Therenor Prime
Vice-chairman, Defense Committee (Temporarily suspended)
Controlling Shareholder - Druckenwell Arms Corporation
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| Toben-Domon | Date: Saturday, 01 Jan 2011, 12:56 PM | Message # 2 |
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| Aha! Senator Ryuun, I commend you. You have taken the jewel of a former piece of less-than-able legislature and searched through until you found a bright center. This legislation makes sense, and Sluis Van is in favor completely.
Toben Domon
Senator, Sluis Van
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| Senator_Ordan | Date: Saturday, 01 Jan 2011, 3:23 PM | Message # 3 |
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| I like this legislation, would the good Senator of Druckenwell consider holding off on proposing it as an independent piece of legislation to allow its incorporation into a wider "rules of engagement" law I am presently drafting?
Senator Hubert Ordan
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| LomenRyuun | Date: Sunday, 02 Jan 2011, 7:43 AM | Message # 4 |
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| I would agree, Senator Ordan, were it not for the fact that I, too, am drafting additional legislation that falls under rules of engagement and that this specific act, small as it is in part, cannot afford to be waited on. The Senate must vote as swiftly as possible to ensure this bill passes.
Lomen Ryuun
Senator, Doldur Sector
Senator, Druckenwell
Representative, Monor II (10 BBY - 9 BBY)
Representative, Geridard
Representative, Boranall
Representative, Therenor Prime
Vice-chairman, Defense Committee (Temporarily suspended)
Controlling Shareholder - Druckenwell Arms Corporation
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| Crin_Star | Date: Monday, 03 Jan 2011, 10:45 AM | Message # 5 |
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| As I already gave a piece on these weapons I will just vote In favor.
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| Ilanah_Thanatos | Date: Monday, 03 Jan 2011, 3:42 PM | Message # 6 |
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| Thank you for proposing this, Senator Ryuun. The damage that can be done by these sorts of weapons can be beyond tragic and those that make them seem to receive no sort of punishment for the production, transportation, or sales of such lethal weapons. Chandrila votes in favor.
Ilanah R. Thanatos
Senator of Chandrila
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| Senator_Cambrist | Date: Monday, 03 Jan 2011, 6:59 PM | Message # 7 |
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| Senator Ryuun, I intend to support your measure but, playing the part that Senator Lohden did on the Biological Weapons Conventions, I must ask what of Imperial military use of these weapons? I am not familiar with the Imperial policy on these weapons and it's my personal belief that turbolasers and other conventional weaponry are certainly adequate to the Empire's purposes but, still, it's a point that I think bears mention.
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| Artemis_Vanden | Date: Monday, 03 Jan 2011, 7:56 PM | Message # 8 |
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| Regardless, I vote enthusiastically in favor. The Empire is fond of saying that it has delivered peace to the galaxy. Let us continue to do so, Senators, by prohibiting weapons of war.
Artemis Vanden
Representative of the Naboo
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| Bernard_Oriel | Date: Monday, 03 Jan 2011, 9:23 PM | Message # 9 |
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| Senator Ryuun I would like to add the following amendment. "Definition 4. Explosive weapons (travelling under their own power or fired from some kind of device) with a yield of over 5 (five) standard turbo laser blasts shall be considered to be "highly destructive ordnance" and their use shall henceforth be restricted from use by planetary forces or civilians. This shall not apply to explosive charges used for demolitions, deforestation, mining etc but rather military applications only (if a question arises it shall be determined by the Sector Moff or his duly appointed representative)." It should be noted that no standard torpedo produced commercially is over this limit, and thus there is no threat to the present arsenals of any worlds, simply there is going to be a restriction of the creation of new "superweapons" such as inter-planetary torpedo launchers, or other weapons of mass destruction.
Bernard Oriel
Senator for the Planet of Vjun
1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation)
Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
Message edited by Bernard_Oriel - Monday, 03 Jan 2011, 9:50 PM |
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| Crin_Star | Date: Monday, 03 Jan 2011, 9:34 PM | Message # 10 |
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| Conventional weapons, senator Oriel, are not the subject of this bill instead those which are actually super weapons. There are quite a few explosives in military usage with yields greater than such a contrite number of turbolaser blasts. Instead let us focus on the true weapons of destruction.
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| Bernard_Oriel | Date: Monday, 03 Jan 2011, 9:56 PM | Message # 11 |
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| I have clarified the matter for you in my proposal, however, I would like to see if you can substantiate this claim that any weapon that has a yield of more than 5 turbolaser blasts is not a "superweapon" in itself? Certainly such a weapon would fall under definition 2 already... for 5x the standard turbolaser yield would logically be able to lay waste to a large area of a city and render it uninhabitable.
Bernard Oriel
Senator for the Planet of Vjun
1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation)
Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
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| Crin_Star | Date: Monday, 03 Jan 2011, 10:04 PM | Message # 12 |
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| Really five shots to lay waste to an entire city? Turbolasers senator are not nearly as powerful as you claim them to be it takes substantially more shots than just five to lay waste to an entire city. (( point to destroy only a relatively small portion of the city it took almost the entire output of every gun on that ship blasting away. A HELL of a lot more than five shots))
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| Bernard_Oriel | Date: Monday, 03 Jan 2011, 10:17 PM | Message # 13 |
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| Senator.. a single salvo from an average such weapon can be in the megaton range..
Bernard Oriel
Senator for the Planet of Vjun
1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation)
Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
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| Senator_Ordan | Date: Monday, 03 Jan 2011, 11:23 PM | Message # 14 |
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| Having attempted to compose rules of engagement. I have ended up failing to come up with a comprehensive system which would be robust enough to balance planetary rights with Imperial Security. I would be interested to hear Senator Ryuun's view on Senator Oriel's amendment as it creates a much wider protection under this act and will act to increase protection.
Senator Hubert Ordan
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Autocrat of Selgon
Owner of Azure Durasteel
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| LomenRyuun | Date: Tuesday, 04 Jan 2011, 1:20 AM | Message # 15 |
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| Senator Cambrist, the Imperial military is likely to have access to these weapons for their own reasons. While I would like to see these weapons in no hands at all, I cannot ask the Imperial Navy to give them up; only limit their use. Senator Oriel, I am willing to put your amendment into my bill. It does make good sense.
Lomen Ryuun
Senator, Doldur Sector
Senator, Druckenwell
Representative, Monor II (10 BBY - 9 BBY)
Representative, Geridard
Representative, Boranall
Representative, Therenor Prime
Vice-chairman, Defense Committee (Temporarily suspended)
Controlling Shareholder - Druckenwell Arms Corporation
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