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Endangered Species Act
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| LordZarcaine | Date: Thursday, 14 Apr 2011, 2:08 AM | Message # 1 |
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| Article I While there are many Species with in the galaxy that are dangerous, there are just as many that are not unless provoked. This Act ensures that such species, either dangerous predators, or docile herbivore that have seen a rapid decline in their population; either because of natural causes, or from hunting; would be claimed as an Endangered Species. At which point the species as a whole would be catalogued and relocated to a sanctuary world, where they would be preserved and observed. Section I This Act would create a council and organization that would see to the catalouging of species on worlds in which they are proclaimed endangered as a whole. Such species that are wide spread across the galaxy like the Nerf, would not be a species that could be considered to be added to the list, because of their natural large numbers on various worlds. Only the native species found on a world can be claimed as an Endangered Species. Section II This Act would create special sanctuary worlds, on uninhabited worlds that can maintain new species. On these worlds will be built bio domes that will house a special environment that matches those of the worlds the Endangered Species is brought from to the Sanctuary world. Section III This Act would make it illegal to hunt any animal listed as Endangered. As well as carry the minimum fine of 50,000 Credits and no less than 10 years in an Imperial Prison for the Crime of Poaching an Endangered Species. Article II When the scientist that will be stationed at these specialized sanctuaries believes that a Species is making a strong come back. That species will be slowly reintroduced to their native world. At which time the species will be closely monitored until a report showing a satisfactory come back of the species is filled. At that time, when the species has reached a preset number, it will be removed from the Endangered Species list, and placed onto a Recovery List. Section I When the species is added to the Recovery List, it will remain on the list until it reaches a large enough number in their population. At which point the species will be taken off of the Recovery List and added to the Recovered List of species that were once Endangered.
Lord Zarcaine Kuriyoshi
Lord of Chandaar
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| Artemis_Vanden | Date: Thursday, 14 Apr 2011, 9:40 AM | Message # 2 |
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| I vote enthusiastically in favor of the measure. Naboo is blessed with vibrant biodiversity and many exotic species, many of them, unfortunately, endangered. I feel it would be a shame if the children of my world grow up without ever having known the grace and cunning of a pikobi or the majesty of a bolle bol. Since it is so often the case that the activity of sentient creatures, like us, is responsible for the decline of these species, I agree with Lord Zarcaine that preserving them is our responsibility. It does occur to me, though, that these "sanctuary planets" and "sanctuary moons" might not necessarily need bio-domes to reproduce the environment of endangered creatures, since there are so many uninhabited—or largely uninhabited—planets and moons with such a variety of environmental conditions that we could probably find ones that are naturally suitable for these species, rather than artificially so. It's merely a thought, however, as I am not at all opposed to these bio-domes. Considering the recent trend in the Senate, though, I suspect some Senators might be opposed to them on cost grounds. This would be unfortunate, if so.
Artemis Vanden
Representative of the Naboo
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| Senator_Cambrist | Date: Thursday, 14 Apr 2011, 1:33 PM | Message # 3 |
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| I am broadly in support of this measure, but I would like to suggest that the Empire be permitted to grant an exemption to these regulations when requested, on a case-by-case basis. For instance, imagine ten worlds; on nine of which a certain species is endangered, and on the remaining world they are abundant. And suppose that this species is predatory, and poses a danger to the people of this world. In this case, the species would be considered "endangered," but surely the people of this imagined world where the species is abundant should be allowed to hunt it and reduce its numbers? Is it not reasonable, thus, that exemptions should be given to individuals, governments, and businesses when necessary?
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| LordZarcaine | Date: Thursday, 14 Apr 2011, 2:20 PM | Message # 4 |
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| I would like to bring Senator Cambrist view back to Section I This Act would create a council and organization that would see to the catalouging of species on worlds in which they are proclaimed endangered as a whole. Such species that are wide spread across the galaxy like the Nerf, would not be a species that could be considered to be added to the list, because of their natural large numbers on various worlds. Only the native species found on a world can be claimed as an Endangered Species. While the species of example is the Nerf, it also goes to say that those species that can be claimed as endangered on other worlds, yet were abundant on another world, would be titled as a non endangered species, because said predatory species you've set as an example would have other populations on other worlds. Also as stated in this Section, a council would be formed that, after reviewing data gathered, would create a list of species that would be titled by this council as endangered. As for Senator Vanden's concern on the sanctuary worlds not needing Bio Domes, some worlds atmosphere and uv rays given from the sun that touch the world, could be harmful to some of the species. These bio domes would therefore be created to ensure the safety of those species who would be harmed by being relocated to another world. As for the Funding of such an act, the People of the Cronese Mandate have already set aside a large amount of funds, as well as a handful of uninhabited systems with in the Cronese Mandate to house these sanctuaries and biodomes.
Lord Zarcaine Kuriyoshi
Lord of Chandaar
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| Ilanah_Thanatos | Date: Thursday, 14 Apr 2011, 2:46 PM | Message # 5 |
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| I am quite surprised that the illustrious Senator Cambrist has not already inquired as to the proposed funding of this act. From an environmental standpoint, I am very much in favor of your proposal. I am, however, a little concerned about the cost for these scientists and sanctuaries. Are you expecting that the individual planets will be required to foot this bill, or the Empire? It is merely an inquiry, Senator, as I did not see it outlined in your very well written and thought out proposal.
Ilanah R. Thanatos
Senator of Chandrila
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| Slai-Fon | Date: Thursday, 14 Apr 2011, 3:08 PM | Message # 6 |
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| I see this bill causing a problem with Rodian Hunting clans that sell exotic animal pelt's all across the galaxy. But then again A lot of species have gone extinct because of too much hunting. Guess that's Demand and Supply for you, huh? But, Fabio would want me to do this, as much as he loves animals. I mean he has baby Nexu he's trying to tame. And a few Baby Corellian Sand Panthers. And I'm sure he is thinking of ways to get more pets, exotic or none exotic. Anyways, I support this bill.
Slai-Fon Youngblood, Senator of Anobis, and the Bright Jewel sector
Chairman of ISEC (Imperial Senate Ethic's Committee.)
Chairman & CEO of K/Y deep.
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| LordZarcaine | Date: Thursday, 14 Apr 2011, 4:04 PM | Message # 7 |
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| As a response to Senator Thanatos' inquiring about the funding for this bill. I have stated that the People of the Cronese Mandate have already set aside a large sum of funds that would be able to support the bill, as well as pay for Scientist and the Sanctuaries for an estimated 5 Standard Years. While this will keep the scientist paid and sanctuaries paid for, additional funding will be needed. As such this would be a joint operation, asking for the cooperation of Planetary Governments to set aside a fund for planetary conservation, as well as call on a budget to be set by the Empire that would help maintain the bill to ensure that future generations would be able to enjoy those species that are currently alive. In the matter of those sentient species that have hunting clans as part of their culture. I will be submitting a second bill that would act with this one. This second bill will set the guidelines to open a galactic hunting season on these planets. It would also contain specific rules in which the hunting will be allowed, as well as punishment for any hunter found with an exotic pelt of an animal that during the time of the hunt was marked as off limits. This will also contain a means to keep already hunted pelts distinguishable from new ones, including an Imperial Customs stamp on the date in which the pelt was captured.
Lord Zarcaine Kuriyoshi
Lord of Chandaar
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| Ilanah_Thanatos | Date: Thursday, 14 Apr 2011, 4:39 PM | Message # 8 |
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| Very well, Senator Kuriyoshi. As I said before, it was merely a query. Chandrila votes in favor.
Ilanah R. Thanatos
Senator of Chandrila
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| Artemis_Vanden | Date: Friday, 15 Apr 2011, 5:37 PM | Message # 9 |
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| Lord Zarcaine's explanation satisfies me, however it does occur to me that costs could be saved by having many of these scientists, anthropologists, etc. be volunteers. I think there would be quite a lot of interest in this in the scientific and especially the academic community, especially if students are able to volunteer their time at these sanctuaries for university credit. I suspect that many universities and other academic institutions would also be willing to contribute funds to these sanctuaries, since the opportunity to study rare and exotic species would be quite valuable to them indeed.
Artemis Vanden
Representative of the Naboo
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| Slai-Fon | Date: Friday, 15 Apr 2011, 8:49 PM | Message # 10 |
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| Interesting idea Representative Vanden. We have several colleges on Anobis that do such things. Um, I'll get in touch with my planet to see if it's something the colleges and such would be interested in.
Slai-Fon Youngblood, Senator of Anobis, and the Bright Jewel sector
Chairman of ISEC (Imperial Senate Ethic's Committee.)
Chairman & CEO of K/Y deep.
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| Johannes_Oswaldt | Date: Saturday, 16 Apr 2011, 10:10 AM | Message # 11 |
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| Are you kidding me? 50,000 credits and 10 years in prison for killing some dumb animal? 10 years is probably longer then most of them would live anyway, are we seriously saying someones life should be ruined because he killed some stupid creature? Yes i do mean stupid and I do mean dumb.. it isnt our fault these species are endangered. We're animals arent we? We evolved same as them? Animals kill each other, it happens, its natural. The act has a lot to say about protecting these species but it doesnt say why. I dont see why, myself. I can live without the "grace and cunning" of a this and the "majesty" of a that. Give me a break. I'd probably appreciate a lot of these species more in my belly then in some sanctuary. Point is I'm not voting for this until someone makes a case for why.
Johannes Oswaldt
Senator and Governor of Eriadu
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| LordZarcaine | Date: Saturday, 16 Apr 2011, 11:17 AM | Message # 12 |
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| This is a bill to ensure the future of these Animals. You call them dumb, and that you'd rather appreciate them more in your stomach. Then what happens when that entire species is wiped out and not a single one is left. Will you feel the want and hunger for the animal, only to realize that you ate the last one. That you wiped out an entire species merely because you wanted to eat it. This will ensure that there is a larger population, so that if those like you wish to eat an animal, instead of save it, then the population will remain at a steady high, instead of a decreasing low. These species are endangered, not because of other animals eating them, but because we have over hunted them, because we have encroached upon their territory and killed them merely to build out cities. If we can do nothing great in our lives, then at least let it be said that we protected these species for the future generations to enjoy. Let them thank us for giving them the blessing of these animals that would have been lost to history.
Lord Zarcaine Kuriyoshi
Lord of Chandaar
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| Johannes_Oswaldt | Date: Saturday, 16 Apr 2011, 2:23 PM | Message # 13 |
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| We have an expression on Eriadu.. "tough as a septoid." Its because we can't kill the damn things. We tried, can't do it. Our cities and pollution can't do it either. A lot of species have gone extinct on Eriadu, and I mean a lot.. flow mollusks for example. But not the septoids. Say what you will about them, they are tough. I respect that. All those others that went extinct? That's too bad for them but like I said, it happens. Animals kill other animals all the time, its every species for itself. Well we're animals too, arent we? Monnoks use sticks, we use turbolasers. Gundarks build nests, we build cities. If a species can't survive that, like I said.. too bad. One things for sure, Eriadu is destined to be the Coruscant of the OUter Rim and I'm not going to stop developing my world just for some mollusks and rats. As far as eating them goes though.. I say legalize the eating of endangered species. That way theres always demand for them and they'll always be bred and cloned in captivity. Problem solved.
Johannes Oswaldt
Senator and Governor of Eriadu
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| Senator_Cambrist | Date: Saturday, 16 Apr 2011, 11:19 PM | Message # 14 |
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| For the record, the Governor's comments aside, I vote in favor. Senator Thanatos, cost was indeed a concern of mine, but Senator Kuriyoshi's explanation has satisfied me (even if I must doubt, to some extent, why it is necessary for the Empire to provide for this if the Cronese Mandate is willing to pay for it all and provide many of the sanctuary worlds. However, I do recognize that even private endeavors to preserve endangered species would be dependent, to a large degree, on Imperial regulations like this. Moreover, while I would like Senator Kuriyoshi's proposed council to be a private one, I can also see the benefits of having the members of this council be accountable to the Senate and, thus, the people). Also, I always hesitate to agree with Representative Vanden but I have to admit that having students tend to these sanctuaries in exchange for university credit is a sound idea.
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| Robert_North | Date: Sunday, 17 Apr 2011, 5:33 PM | Message # 15 |
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| Here, here Senator Oswaldt. As always, willing to bludgeon through the hypocrisy and politics and then state the obvious flaws in ridiculous legislation when many are unable to, or can not formulate the words to do so. Bravo, sir, bravo. I agree with Senator Oswaldt, and have but a simple question in the face of his, indeed, costly effort. Why not just clone the beasts and solve the problem far more cheaply and efficiently? Also, if the Cronese Mandate has all the funding to conduct the project itself, why is it not merely doing it in a private venture than dragging the Empire into a bleeding heart crusade?
The Honorable R.C.W. North
Senator of Imperial Center
Chairman of the Internal Activities Committee Mayor of the Galactic/Imperial City (22 BBY-18 BBY)
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