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Funding methods request(FMR!)
Trask_LargeroDate: Wednesday, 15 Dec 2010, 6:51 AM | Message # 1
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Hello magical request box..I would like to request 2 hot chicago style pizzas and a dr. pepper to be delivered by a very naked, still very hawt began fox biggrin

Okay okay, now that I have that outta the way I can get to the real reason for creating this thread and looking all hot over here in my corner.

The REAL request:

I would like to request a network, to be created IC-wise that will basically provide extra funding for the Libs, and more specifically for trask's specific group(which is still in the early fermentation phases(yes another joke get used to it darn it!). This network would operate on a basic operation of basically Trask and his group, stealing 'secrets' i.e. military, business, planetary, etc. and then selling them to the highest bidder.

Before it's asked NO this will not effect peoples characters or be used to garner information OOC, instead it will likely focus more on secrets that would actually be worth credits. Like say, they might try stealing a new ship design from Kuat drive yards and try selling it to Fondor or Mon Cal or whoever would pay the highest price, this is just an example and not going to happen but you get the idea. Some information, like some NPC senator's corruption and evidence of it, things that would be valuable to someone else, they try to get and then sell.

This network would work through various informants, who get paid a percentage of the sell of the secret. Yes I am aware that this will likely make the group a target by the empire if they sold something pressing but the Empire has been known to make use of black markets at times. For this to effect any character the information would have to be rped out as being stolen.

This would not come into effect immediately or quickly for that matter but would be built up gradually. Also one last thing with this request would be that, it would appear, to those investigating that one person would be behind it, name yet to be decide, though it would be trask operating under another code name than the one he'll be using as a rebel leader.

 
Jory_CarsonDate: Wednesday, 15 Dec 2010, 4:16 PM | Message # 2
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How many, and what type of (IE: slicers, paramilitary, demolitions...) members, would this group have to operate, where would they operate from, and what methods would they use to extract information?

Vote: PENDING

 
Crin_StarDate: Wednesday, 15 Dec 2010, 5:29 PM | Message # 3
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As i said it would mostly operate on an informant basis, using people around the galaxy to pass along information. Usually bribery would be the number 1 method of getting the secrets though a few more...extreme...measures might be taken for the more..valuable..secrets. There wouldn't be torture or actual violence committed by the organization.

As for hackers and slicers, no more than half a dozen to start off with but may grow to hundreds as the organization expands. Though hacking, slicing, etc wouldn't be the main method of information extraction. This is NOT an outright military, combat group so military or paramilitary personnel, demolitions aren't going to be needed. At most they are going to be led by Trask who will be a rebel but won't use this group as such if that makes sense.

The best canon example i could come up with would be the bothan spy network minus the military arm, and of course a bit more mercenary.

 
Karth_DeQoraDate: Saturday, 18 Dec 2010, 2:08 PM | Message # 4
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To clarify Carson's post, can we please get an idea of where they would be based out of, i.e. what planets they have safehouses/bases on, that kind of thing?

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Crin_StarDate: Saturday, 18 Dec 2010, 9:37 PM | Message # 5
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Well as of right now and possibly for a while it's point would be mobile likely based on a ship, which if that is the case itll be small with just receiving equipment. As of now no bases or safe houses. This is just for the organization idea, frame works and infrastructure will be worked out and then requested individually
 
Jace_VaritekDate: Sunday, 19 Dec 2010, 0:53 AM | Message # 6
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I vote to APPROVE, but the one thing I would emphasize is the incredibly fierce competition that this organization will be sure to face. It was during this time period that Jorj Car'das was assembling what would eventually become the largest criminal information network in the galaxy. To quote from his Wookieepedia page, "Car'das was able to guess his competitors' strategies and plans and stop them; he eventually realized that there was no limit to what he could do and began absorbing his competitors one by one. Car'das's organization boomed," and "rivaled even that of the Hutts." The Hutt Cartel, of course, isn't ever said to be much of an information network, so the fact that Car'das's organization is compared the Hutts, to me, speaks to the "ruthless, merciless" nature of the organization.

The reason I point this out is that it seems to me that it's very treacherous ground for an information network that's just beginning. It isn't just the Empire that would be trying to put you out of business, but competitors who are in the same business and, often, can pose as your informants without you knowing, give you false information, report you to the Empire, etc. To put it in business parlance, it's a rather large "barrier to entry," not just from Car'das's organization but presumably from others. Of course, you would have an advantage that none of the other organizations do—a Jedi at the helm (although Car'das is close to that himself, in all the ways that matter here. But I digress).

These are things I hope you take into account, and account for over the course of RPing the development of your organization. Also, quick clarification; is Trask's funding coming from Tremaine's resistance group, The Libs? I can't remember if Trask was a part of that or not. At any rate, it would, of course, require a lot of money to pay the informants as you're starting up, not to mention buying slicing equipment, recruiting capable slicers, and also acquiring the comms ship that you mentioned. Please do touch on the funding in a sentence or two, if you will.


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Karth_DeQoraDate: Wednesday, 22 Dec 2010, 3:03 PM | Message # 7
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Trask, can we get an answer to Jace's points here?

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Jace_VaritekDate: Thursday, 23 Dec 2010, 11:51 PM | Message # 8
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Since this has ended up dragging into Christmas time, I suppose we should give him another couple days to respond.

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Karth_DeQoraDate: Friday, 24 Dec 2010, 0:58 AM | Message # 9
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How dare you ask me to be patient, sir. How... dare you...

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Crin_StarDate: Friday, 24 Dec 2010, 7:08 AM | Message # 10
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in part right now trask's funding i think is coming from the libs but soon i believe that he will become more self sufficient in that regards and when he does some of the credits he takes will be funneled over to start this up. Like i said this won't be an immediate type of thing to get set up but will take some time IC-wise to get the ball rolling.

Basically if you remember the discussion we had about trask becoming a fighter earlier the idea was for him to seek popular support by taking on the more seedier elements in the galaxy. While it may make things more difficult breaking down some minor criminal organizations and fighting other groups, ie slavers, spice dealers, etc. could provide an inflow of extra credits which could then be used to start up this and keep his little group causing insanity for the empire.

As for barrier of entry, yeah theres likely to be some major ones. But itll be small at first, and with the mobility itll have (as a piece of the rebellion), it should be able to avoid most of the problems with all those other groups.

 
Karth_DeQoraDate: Saturday, 25 Dec 2010, 2:18 AM | Message # 11
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Sounds good to me.

(MOTION TO APPROVE)


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Jace_VaritekDate: Saturday, 25 Dec 2010, 11:33 PM | Message # 12
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And to me. I vote to APPROVE as well.

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Jace_VaritekDate: Saturday, 25 Dec 2010, 11:38 PM | Message # 13
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Oh wait, I already did. I guess one of those was approving of your Megan Fox request then. She was more attractive though before all the cosmetic work, I think. Still attractive, of course, but now in a "constructed-for-the-purpose-of-having-sex-with-you-and-then-devouring-you-for-nutrient-replenishment" sort of way.

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Jace_VaritekDate: Saturday, 25 Dec 2010, 11:47 PM | Message # 14
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I guess that wasn't nice to Megan Fox. All I mean is that it's easy to imagine an army of genetically engineered "Megan Fox" devices descending on the Earth and subduing mankind one by one in a plot to take advantage of man's greatest strength and greatest weakness—his passion. Then, once subdued, the Megan Fox's ("Foxes"?) will consume us for our nutrients and, indeed, all forms of life on this planet. They will then move on to the next planet and next species, taking on some new artificially sexy form. Hey, some people think Obama is the antichrist, okay? This is my pet conspiracy theory.

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Karth_DeQoraDate: Saturday, 25 Dec 2010, 11:52 PM | Message # 15
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Is it bad that I'm quite okay with the idea of Megan Fox seducing and then devouring me?

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