Brentaal's Fleet & Defenses
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Senator_Cambrist | Date: Wednesday, 26 Jan 2011, 8:33 PM | Message # 1 |
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| I've mentioned Brentaal's fleet a number of times in the RP, and I've even procured some new ships for it recently in the RP, but now that it may be in use it is, of course, high time that I request its specific numbers. First of all, ● 4 Arquetins-class Light Cruisers ● 2 DP-20 Frigates ● 4 CR-20 Troop Carriers (obviously not really useful as part of a "fleet," but I figured I'd request it anyway). As some of you will recall, these were purchased from the Empire as surplus (here. Also, you'll find links to them on the first post of that thread). So those are new ships, in addition to Brentaal's current fleet and defenses, which I request as follows, ● 2 Star Galleon-class Frigates (used mostly to transport Brentaal government cargo, including up to 18 starfighters when configured for this purpose. They are landed and not continuously crewed when not in use, however). ● 36 Planetary Defender Starfighters (3 squadrons, to be used primarily, as Wookieepedia says, for interdiction and customs enforcement). ● 2 Golan III Space Defense Platforms, manned by Imperial forces, w/appropriate number of TIEs (note that Wookieepedia says "Golan III platforms were assigned to the most valuable locations in the galaxy," and Brentaal is arguably the most valuable location in the galaxy). ● A large number of "Cambrist Shields" (since I mentioned these in that request I link to, I assume it's not necessary to request them here but I thought it'd be helpful to show you the total numbers I have).
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Jory_Carson | Date: Thursday, 27 Jan 2011, 8:54 PM | Message # 2 |
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| Alrighty…from the top… Arquetins-class Light Cruisers: I could not find any information on these vessels. Could you please provide a link or some specs here? DP-20 Frigates: I see no problem with this CR-20 Troop Carriers: I see nothing wrong here Star Galleon-class Frigates: Very little information to be found however wookiepedia states that these vessels were primarily used (no construction date that I could find) during the “Rebellion Era” which takes place some 19 years after this RP. Planetary Defender Starfighters: See above The Rebellion Era is said to ‘take place between 0 BBY (the Battle of Toprawa) and 4 ABY (the Battle of Endor), and into events after the battle until 5 ABY’ *Wookieepedia Golan III Space Defence Platforms: See Star Galleon and Planetary Defence Starfighter. I think the Golan II was used during this time? ‘Cambrist Shields’: I like the concept; define ‘several’. So, here is my vote at present: 4 - Arquetins-class Light Cruisers: PENDING 2 - DP-20 Frigates: APPROVE 4 - CR-20 Troop Carriers: APPROVE 2 - Star Galleon-class Frigates: DENY 36 - Planetary Defender Starfighters: DENY 2 - Golan III Space Defence Platforms: APPROVE ? - Cambrist Shields: PENDING
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Jory_Carson | Date: Sunday, 06 Feb 2011, 2:05 PM | Message # 3 |
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| This request is no eleven days old. I will move to close this in five days from now. Any further argument should be taken care of by then.
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Jory_Carson | Date: Sunday, 13 Feb 2011, 10:47 AM | Message # 4 |
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| No remarks?... Going once.
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Senator_Cambrist | Date: Monday, 14 Feb 2011, 9:47 PM | Message # 5 |
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| Apologies for the delay, and the flawed request. I'm notoriously forgetful about looking up the suitability of ships to this era. That said, a few more hours to correct this, if I may?
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Jory_Carson | Date: Wednesday, 16 Feb 2011, 7:57 PM | Message # 6 |
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| Sure thing Jack, just wanted to make sure this was still in play.
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Senator_Cambrist | Date: Wednesday, 23 Feb 2011, 6:18 PM | Message # 7 |
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| Okay, so it was Arquitens-class, not Arquetins-class. Sorry for confusing the spelling, and the timeline on those other ships. The Star Galleons are definitely out, because Wookieepedia specifically says it was designed in response to Rebel Alliance raids on shipping. Can I replace them with 2 standard Imperial escort carriers? They're similarly, but more lightly armed than the Star Galleons. I'm not sure I'm necessarily wrong about the Planetary Defender fighter, though. Wookieepedia does identify it as being from the "Rebellion Era," which is as you described it. But that's only because the Planetary Defender fighter only appears in a game that's set in that era. In that game, a jerkwater planet called Tinoon, in the middle of nowhere, is seen using them "extensively." That means they must be in pretty wide circulation by the Rebellion Era, and almost certainly a decade or more before it. I would assume, thus, that's around in this time period, too. As for the Golan III platform, I believe they're said to be around during the Clone Wars. And as for the Cambrist shields, by "several" I basically mean enough so that if Brentaal is ever attacked by pirates in the RP I can say that these shields are present there. The actual number isn't all that important to me.
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Jory_Carson | Date: Saturday, 26 Feb 2011, 6:03 PM | Message # 8 |
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| Ok, Arquitens looks fine but to make me feel better I would prefer to see only 2, you have quite the large defence network as it is (in my opinion). I definately have no problem with the Carriers. I am going to trust your judgement on the other two items as I have never played the game and I refrenced only Wookieepedia (an old habit of mine). I would still like to see a more deffinative number for the shields so that, later on down the road you cannot say that you have so many that they cannot be breeched by any deterimed barage (not that I think you would) so my vote stands as such: 2 - Arquetins-class Light Cruisers: APPROVE 2 - DP-20 Frigates: APPROVE 4 - CR-20 Troop Carriers: APPROVE 2 - Imperial escort Carriers: APPROVE 36 - Planetary Defender Starfighters: APPROVE 2 - Golan III Space Defence Platforms: APPROVE (looks like I approved it anyhow) ? - Cambrist Shields: PENDING
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Senator_Cambrist | Date: Saturday, 26 Feb 2011, 7:51 PM | Message # 9 |
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| Would it be all right if I bite the bullet here and trade those 2 DP-20 frigates for the 2 additional Arquitens-class cruisers that were omitted? (bearing in mind that 2 DP-20s come very close to double the firepower of 2 Arquitens-class frigates, this would be only half the firepower of these ships you listed above, but I'm okay with that if it means I can have the 4 Arquitens that were purchased from the Empire in that Senate thread. Those are my priority, really. More so than the DP-20's). As for the Cambrist Shields, I do understand your concern, but rest assured these really aren't practical for planetary defense at all (capital ships can tear through them in seconds, for instance). The sole purpose of these shields is to have some sort of defense against Volus-style acts of piracy on civilian ships, freighters, transports, etc. over Brentaal. Basically, it's an attempt at a bit of balance in the RP because we've seen how easy it is for an RPer with a couple of pirate ships to show up at a planet and shoot up an obscene number of defenseless NPC ships before the planet has enough time to stop them. So, as for how many of these shields would be at Brentaal, it's hard to say; realistically, considering the volume of traffic that passes through the planet, there would be a hundred or more of these. But I don't intend to ever use more than 4 to 6 of them at any one time. Would that assurance be acceptable, in lieu of a total number?
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Jory_Carson | Date: Monday, 28 Feb 2011, 11:09 AM | Message # 10 |
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| Actually, no you mention it that would be better and, in fact, preferential. I confess that I did not compare the weaponry as well as I should have. So, 2 DP-20s for 2 Arquitens then. As for the shields you have sufficiently alleviated my concerns. Well done ole boy! Having traded ships I vote: APPROVE in its entirety!
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Jory_Carson | Date: Monday, 07 Mar 2011, 8:09 PM | Message # 11 |
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| Going to go ahead on this one as it seems Karth is...busy. APPROVED
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