My OOC concern is that, if approved in its current form, this would be (by far) the largest rebel fleet in the RP, whereas, up to this point, some care has been taken to keep them all reasonable (and similar) sizes. Also, in 10 BBY, the Nebulon-B is quite new and primarily in Imperial, not rebel use. And the idea that rebels would have a Star Destroyer in this time period is unheard of. I can't see other rebels regarding this fleet with anything other than immediate suspicion. To be clear, I think the idea is good, but the scale of it all seems impossible, to me. This (and the "secret ship" aspect of the Dark Whispers, too) seems like it's really best suited to a small ship with a small crew—small enough that the Empire can come up with believable cover stories for it and for them.

Either way, if Deamora is now an Inquisitor doing this undercover operation (which I'm okay with), I don't feel he should be doing this and remain captain of the Dark Whispers at the same time. One or the other needs to go, in my opinion. I just don't see the Empire taking such an enormous risk with one person (The Force Unleashed being a glaring exception to this—an exception which ended in disaster, incidentally).

And speaking of The Force Unleashed—this isn't your fault, of course, but the Empire currently has not 1, not 2, but 3 operations going on in which Imperials are posing as rebels in order to get close to them. A fourth one, I think, is pushing the limits of what is manageable. Four of them all at once, that is. I'd be more open to this idea once one or two of the others has run its course, I think. But this concern of mine is secondary to all the others I've mentioned above, and I might still be okay with this if these other concerns are addressed.

Jace Varitek
Manager/Administrator from January 2003 to Present
My recent posts here, pre-2009 archives here

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Furthermore, a dancing Wookiee:

As for Jaron's plan, if it's the one he told me about in Messenger a couple of nights ago, it really is a good one. I won't mention it here, but I'd be okay with it. As I talked about with you, though, it seems to me it might be good to put that plan into effect after Deamora's next assignment (for the reasons we discussed). That's my personal feeling, at least, since I don't think he's really done anything incriminating at Alurion that the Empire can't just deny. So, that said, I'll feel better about approving this one if we go with that, as it resolves my concern about Deamora being a captain and a rebel-in-disguise at the same time. My concern about the scale of this fleet remains, though. I'm interested in other opinions on it, too. I just don't see how an operation involving so many people can be kept secret.

Jace Varitek
Manager/Administrator from January 2003 to Present
My recent posts here, pre-2009 archives here

"When my information changes, I change my opinion. What do you do, sir?"
—John Maynard Keynes

Furthermore, a dancing Wookiee:

1. Too many ships viz. other RPers
2. Too many ships viz. covert operation
3. Plausibility of Imperial ships in "rebel" fleet (CIS ships remedy this)
4. Plausibility of Deamora as Captain and "rebel" Inquisitor (Jaron's plan will remedy this)
5. Too many similar operations at the present time (again, Jaron's plan will mean none of this will happen right away)

I should clarify, the CIS ships mostly remedy the problem of there being too many ships, too much crew, etc. for a covert operation (#2). The crew problem is solved on the CIS ships, obviously, assuming droids are used. And where the ships came from is also resolved—from the former Confederacy, of course. But the gorilla remains that Star Destroyer with its crew of over 40,000. Yes, the plausibility of it being captured is remedied with the CIS ships (#3), but it seems to me the logistical problem remains; can you have a covert operation that includes 40,000 people? True, you could use droids to crew the Star Destroyer too, but would the Empire really spend so much time (and personnel, too, a liability in a covert operation) to re-program droids to know how to crew a Star Destroyer? It seems unlikely because a Star Destroyer simply isn't necessary to this operation, and, as you said, CIS ships probably are abundant in Imperial possession and seem like they would suffice.

That is, assuming the goal of the operation is to get close to rebels and Separatists, etc., all that's really necessary is one or two Separatist ships. A fleet that can actually hold its own in battle is immaterial, since the goal is to acquire information and then (I assume) summon Imperial reinforcements. You might see where I'm going with this, which is my concern about there being too many ships here relative to other rebel fleets in the RP (#1). This is really the biggest problem I have, because there's been some effort in the past to have a balance between the various rebel and Separatist characters so that no single one of them is a lot more powerful than any other. Because of this, you'll find that the potential addition of even one or two frigates will be a tantalizing possibility for the rebels/separatists, because it would give them an advantage over others. This (and what I said a moment ago about the goal of the mission) seems to me to justify scaling this fleet down quite a bit.

So the C-9979's are fine with me, as are the droid starfighters, the numbers of which are comparable to other RPers. 4 Munificents seems like rather a lot to me, though. If I'm right about the goal of the mission, would not 3 or even 2 Munificents suffice? I don't mean to be difficult, here. I just do have these reservations and want to work with you to smooth them over, if possible.

Jace Varitek
Manager/Administrator from January 2003 to Present
My recent posts here, pre-2009 archives here

"When my information changes, I change my opinion. What do you do, sir?"
—John Maynard Keynes

Furthermore, a dancing Wookiee: