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Ship Request
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| Rasuk_Mithren | Date: Wednesday, 18 May 2011, 10:17 PM | Message # 1 |
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| This is a ship request for the bounty hunter Rasuk Mithren Starship
Name: The Blackhole
Class: Modified Dynamic-Class Freighter
Length: 27.24m
Width: 25.94
Crew: 1
Passengers: 6 Prisoners
Speed: 800 Km/h
Equipment:
~Cock Pit
~ANq-51 Sensor Array Computer
~ Communication Arracy Computer
~ Holonet Transceiver
~ 57c Holocam Security Scanners
~ Universal Jammer Computer
~ Weapons Fire-Link System
~Medical Bay
~ Vratix Bacta Tank
~Engine Room
~ Miniature Security locked Laser Gate
~ Ion Engines
~ 1.0 Class Hyperdrive
~On Ship
~Sensor Array Dish
~ Communications Array Dish
~ Shield Generator
~ Universal Jammer Dish
~Starboard Dormitories (Modified into Prisoners cells)
~ Universal Energy Cage
~ Universal Energy Cage
~ Universal Energy Cage ~Port Dormitories (Modified into Prisoners cells)
~ Universal Energy Cage
~ Universal Energy Cage
~ Universal Energy Cage ~Storage Compartment (Modified into Droid bay)
~ Vocal imprint locked Door
~ Retinal scanner
~ Hard-wired R2 astromech unit (Serves as Power Regulator)
~ Hard-wired R2 astromech unit (Serves as Navigator) Weapons:
~Forward Faceing ~ x1 Heavy Laser Cannon
~ x1 Ion Cannon ~Rear Faceing ~ x1 Mine Holders (4 Sonic Mines, 5 Ion Mines) ~ Left Side ~ x1 Dual Laser Cannon (180 degree coverage, up and down, side to side) ~Right Side ~ x1 Dual Laser Cannon (180 degree coverage, up and down, side to side) ~Topside of Ship ~ x1 Dual-Turbolaser Cannon (360 degree coverage) ~ Bottomside of ship ~ x1 Dual-Turbolaser (360 degree coverage)
Rasuk Mithren
Bounty Hunter
Message edited by Rasuk_Mithren - Thursday, 19 May 2011, 11:33 PM |
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| OrionKarath | Date: Thursday, 19 May 2011, 10:13 AM | Message # 2 |
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| Alright, other than being considered ancient at this point in the canon, which we have a history of denying, I see a couple of problems here. The total weapons count I came up for this ships are... 2 Heavy Laser Cannons
4 Ion Cannons
2 Proton Torpedo Launchers (4 warheads each)
2 Mine Launchers (10 mines each)
2 Dual Laser Cannons
2 Quad Turbolaser Cannons Other than nearly quadrupling the firepower of the original design... there are some question marks, and problems here. Concerning the questions, regarding the original design, the Ebon Hawk is described as a highly modified version of the Dynamic... so why it is missing the ventral turbolaser turret of the standard design is beyond me. As for problems... well, there is a problem with this many weapons. There is fact that you would need to maintain a crew (a co-pilot, around four gunners, and with all that hardware, a mechanic would be a good idea), you are not going to be able to operate this entire thing by yourself. On top of that, looking at the Dynamic I'm not really seeing where all of these weapons could go, so if you could, please explain the modifications in further detail and the how they a mounted, etc. Well, other than the ancient design, weapons, and crewing issues... I don't see much else at this time that I could comment on, so far.
Orion Karath
Manager from June 2009 to Present, Administrator from December 2011 to Present
My posts here, pre-2009 archives here
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| Rasuk_Mithren | Date: Thursday, 19 May 2011, 10:29 AM | Message # 3 |
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| I edited down the weapon compliment, as well as added a modified storage compartment that acts as a Droid bay, containing hard wired R2 units to server as the gunners you mentioned.
Rasuk Mithren
Bounty Hunter
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Thursday, 19 May 2011, 11:28 PM | Message # 4 |
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| To clarify something for Orion real quick: I was concerned about how ancient the Dynamic-class freighter is too, but Rasuk offered the explanation to me that this one is a family heirloom. Since it's a personal ship (and just one of them), I think I'm okay with this explanation. A word of caution to Rasuk, though; this ship will be worth a tremendous amount of money and will probably be a constant target for pirates, belligerent antique collectors, etc. Now, back to the request. I appreciate you bringing down the weapons numbers. If I've got it right, that takes it down to: 2 Heavy Laser Cannons
2 Mine Holders
2 Dual Laser Cannons
2 Quad Turbolaser Cannons
1 Ion Cannon It's still a bit much, and I have a concern that Orion didn't mention, which is power. One assumes that with this many guns (especially the quad turbolasers), the ship is going to need larger power generators than it has room for. Unless, that is, it sacrifices power to something else, like shields, engines, etc. Despite this, though, I think I might be okay with having this many weapons if you omit the mines. Or at least some of the mines. 20 is quite a lot, especially considering that Slave I, a similarly-sized ship, had a magazine of only 9 sonic charges. Also, just a personal peeve of mine, I've said before that I feel like droids are kind of an easy way out of crew requirements, and I try to discourage it when possible. To be honest, I'd probably prefer that the Blackhole's targeting computer be able to auto-fire these weapons, rather than have droids do it. After all, if a droid starfighter can be mass-produced, then auto-targeting and auto-fire can't be that expensive or difficult to install on a ship's guns and I suppose I'd be okay with it. I can't really explain my prejudice against droids serving as crew, but there it is. Anyway, once we have the weaponry sorted out, I'll glance over the rest of it and give my final vote.
Jace Varitek
Manager/Administrator from January 2003 to Present
My recent posts here, pre-2009 archives here
"When my information changes, I change my opinion. What do you do, sir?"
—John Maynard Keynes
Furthermore, a dancing Wookiee:
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| Rasuk_Mithren | Date: Thursday, 19 May 2011, 11:34 PM | Message # 5 |
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| Weapons lessened again, and Droids both given a specific duty instead of just general crew. One is programmed for Navigation, the other is programed to ensure that power is regulated through out the ship.
Rasuk Mithren
Bounty Hunter
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| Karth_DeQora | Date: Thursday, 19 May 2011, 11:42 PM | Message # 6 |
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| Jace is a droidist, and I apologize for that. Also, much obliged for toning down the amount of weaponry on that ship, makes it much easier to work with.
Karth "I'm bringing back signature quotes" De'Qora Assistant Manager
Man, Myth, Administrative God. Also plays a mean kazoo.
Jace Varitek: In Northern California we just have gangs of vigilante interior decorators.
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Saturday, 21 May 2011, 10:42 AM | Message # 7 |
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| I'm an automatist, actually. Wait, I'm being told that means something else entirely. (No Karth, it's not something dirty. I know how your mind works.) So, the ship has a lot of gizmos but I think I'm actually okay with it, and I vote to APPROVE. The droids for regulating power is a nice touch.
Jace Varitek
Manager/Administrator from January 2003 to Present
My recent posts here, pre-2009 archives here
"When my information changes, I change my opinion. What do you do, sir?"
—John Maynard Keynes
Furthermore, a dancing Wookiee:
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| Karth_DeQora | Date: Monday, 23 May 2011, 10:18 PM | Message # 8 |
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| Eh, what the hell. I vote to APPROVE the request with the amendments given.
Man, Myth, Administrative God. Also plays a mean kazoo.
Jace Varitek: In Northern California we just have gangs of vigilante interior decorators.
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| OrionKarath | Date: Monday, 23 May 2011, 10:45 PM | Message # 9 |
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| And with three out of four votes, it is...
APPROVED
Orion Karath
Manager from June 2009 to Present, Administrator from December 2011 to Present
My posts here, pre-2009 archives here
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