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Gungan Resistance Request #2
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| Bar_Tenko | Date: Saturday, 03 Mar 2012, 2:37 AM | Message # 1 |
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| I'd like to request the following for the Gungan Resistance.
x2 Companies (288 Units)
x2 Squads (8 Men) {Trained to be the personnel bodyguards of Bar Tenko}
x8 Double Bladed Electropoles (For Tenko's bodyguards)
x18 S-5 Heavy Blaster Pistol (Enough to equip two 9 man squads)
x3 "Salvaged" / "Recovered" EWHB-12 Heavy Repeating Blasters
x2 "Salvaged" / "Recovered" PLX-1 Portable Missile Launchers
Vehicles
x10 Gungan Battle Wagons (1 for each Energy Catapult)
x5 Gungan Transport Ships
x1 Bongo Heavy Missile
x2 Bongo Advanced Behemoth
x6 Bongo Fast Laser
x10 Bongo Advanced Scout
With the continued elusivity of Bar Tenko, and the growing desire of Freedom among the Gungans, it wouldn't be difficult to believe that he'd gain followers each day to help strengthen his forces. While 296 units can seem like a lot, the two companies plus the two squads, in terms of sheer numbers it's still quite small when compared to some of the other planetary resistance forces, talking in canon as it seems that Tenko's group is the only full planetary based resistance group. I'd also like to request the following.
Otoh "Tenko"
Deflector Shield Generator
Various Defensive Emplacements
Otoh Tenko would be like all gungan cities, hidden in the swamps under the water. The difference being, that with the looming threat of the Empire ever present on Naboo and this Otoh being of a newer construction, it would be equipped to defend itself in the event of an underwater attack or siege if it were ever found and the location known. The Otoh would carry the name Otoh "Tenko" as it would be the primary base of operations for Bar Tenko, as well as housing his troops, equipment, and his troops family if they have any that they wish to be moved to a safer location.
Last part of the request. I'd like to request
x1 G9 Rigger Freighter
The G9 Rigger Freighter would be used in a "smuggling" / "running" capacity, in which it would be sent to pick up supplies and needed material, weapons, armor, explosives, etc etc and run it back to Naboo and for use by Tenko's forces. It would also be used in an attempt to find any Gungans that may be out in the galaxy wishing to return home and aid in the resistance.
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Message edited by Bar_Tenko - Monday, 05 Mar 2012, 11:29 PM |
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Tuesday, 06 Mar 2012, 11:34 PM | Message # 2 |
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| I actually APPROVE of all of this except for 5 of the Bongo Advanced Scouts. I have no objection to them in particular, only to them cumulatively on top of everything else (especially if you're planning to get more seafaring vessels in the near future). Everything else is fine with me except that I'd prefer "Otoh Tenko" be under construction rather than completed, and in fact be under construction for some time so that, while it's functional as a base of operations, it's not quite functional as a fortress (yet). I like the pace that the Naboo situation has been developing and I'd rather not rush it.
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| Bar_Tenko | Date: Tuesday, 06 Mar 2012, 11:36 PM | Message # 3 |
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| I can agree with that, so the request would look like this.
x2 Companies (288 Units)
x2 Squads (8 Men) {Trained to be the personnel bodyguards of Bar Tenko}
x8 Double Bladed Electropoles (For Tenko's bodyguards)
x18 S-5 Heavy Blaster Pistol (Enough to equip two 9 man squads)
x3 "Salvaged" / "Recovered" EWHB-12 Heavy Repeating Blasters
x2 "Salvaged" / "Recovered" PLX-1 Portable Missile Launchers
Vehicles
x10 Gungan Battle Wagons (1 for each Energy Catapult)
x5 Gungan Transport Ships
x1 Bongo Heavy Missile
x2 Bongo Advanced Behemoth
x6 Bongo Fast Laser
x5 Bongo Advanced Scout
Otoh "Tenko" (Under construction)
Deflector Shield Generator
Various Defensive Emplacements
x1 G9 Rigger Freighter
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Tuesday, 06 Mar 2012, 11:41 PM | Message # 4 |
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| Indeed, Sir.
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| Karth_DeQora | Date: Friday, 09 Mar 2012, 10:35 PM | Message # 5 |
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| APPROVE of Jace's numbers and such.
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| Bar_Tenko | Date: Sunday, 11 Mar 2012, 8:25 PM | Message # 6 |
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| I'd like to add an addition to this request.
Citing Jaron's recent post in Early Morning Mist, where he states that a gungan village of 12,000 without a doubt not being the location Tenko came from, yet still be attacked, and having it's medical centers destroyed. Would be more than enough to cause more gungans to rise up against the Empire for such action.
Nothing too large to be added, I'd just like to add the following.
x2 Companies (288 units)
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| OrionKarath | Date: Sunday, 11 Mar 2012, 10:17 PM | Message # 7 |
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| I am inclined to APPROVE of Jace's numbers, but, and perhaps I overstep my bounds here, but I would like such numbers to not be obtained for RP purposes until the conclusion of the Raid on Kwilaan City thread. I am however, inclined to DENY this new addition to this request. Maybe I'm biased, and if I am being so in my judgement, I ask my management colleagues to tell me so, but the thread in question is an on-going, current event from which Tenko, should there be any positive gains, is not going to see until several days to weeks after the conclusion of what happens. This next statement is also partly bias from my extent of involvement within the Naboo plot, and also in looking at the insurgent and revolutionary movements of the past year, in that an overwhelming display of force can, in turn, just as likely increase recruits, as it is to have a negative effect, and cause people to abandon their cause in favor of ensuring that such atrocities and such suffering of innocents does not continue due to their rebellion. In another turn, on the negative front, inactivity to such an action can even cause fracturing of a resistance movement as well.
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| Bar_Tenko | Date: Sunday, 11 Mar 2012, 10:22 PM | Message # 8 |
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| If you'll notice, in the Raid on Kwilaan City thread, the Gungans already ran off into the hills thanks to the distraction provided by the RNSF dealing with the Stormtrooper patrol, and in the Morning Mist thread, Tenko already pulled his forces back into the swamps and went into hiding. They wouldnt know much about the hit on the village until the new numbers arrived and spread the news of what happened to the village.
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| OrionKarath | Date: Sunday, 11 Mar 2012, 10:46 PM | Message # 9 |
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| My bad on Kwilaan, then. I misread the post; my apologies.
On Morning Mist, Tenko needs to find out himself, somehow. I don't see how an addition of a couple hundred new troops being a legitimate means in doing so. If you want him to be more aware to events, then perhaps the establishment of an information/intelligence network should be a priority rather than force expansion. I also don't see how a village that has been completely blocked off, with any Gungan seen attempting to leave being shot on sight, being a valid justification for these forces... especially, again, when it is a current and on-going event.
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| Bar_Tenko | Date: Sunday, 11 Mar 2012, 10:54 PM | Message # 10 |
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| My last post in Morning Mist already made it clear though that Tenko pulled out of the area and back into the swamps. He wouldn't know about the situation until later.
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| OrionKarath | Date: Tuesday, 13 Mar 2012, 11:24 PM | Message # 11 |
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| I could be confused here, but that last statement lost me. What is it, exactly, that that was supposed to be an argument for?
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| Bar_Tenko | Date: Tuesday, 13 Mar 2012, 11:42 PM | Message # 12 |
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| It was a continued clarification that in the thread In the Morning Mist, Tenko is no longer in the area where he fired on the base from, as my last post specifically stated that he and his forces left and retreated back into the swamp. He would have no knowledge of the current blockade, and siege of the Gungan village because he has no forces in the area, and without any Gungan able to leave the village, he wouldn't be able to find out until after the siege. I also cant post in the thread after you since I've already posted that Tenko left the area completely and it would look fishy/suspicious if I posted anything about Tenko finding out about the siege and showing up to relieve it when I've already stated that he is no longer anywhere near, or in any position to offer assistance or help to the village. So now the request would look like this, with the added forces that I tacked on.
x2 Companies (288 Units)
x2 Squads (8 Men) {Trained to be the personnel bodyguards of Bar Tenko}
x8 Double Bladed Electropoles (For Tenko's bodyguards)
x18 S-5 Heavy Blaster Pistol (Enough to equip two 9 man squads)
x3 "Salvaged" / "Recovered" EWHB-12 Heavy Repeating Blasters
x2 "Salvaged" / "Recovered" PLX-1 Portable Missile Launchers
Vehicles
x10 Gungan Battle Wagons (1 for each Energy Catapult)
x5 Gungan Transport Ships
x1 Bongo Heavy Missile
x2 Bongo Advanced Behemoth
x6 Bongo Fast Laser
x5 Bongo Advanced Scout
Otoh "Tenko" (Under construction)
Deflector Shield Generator
Various Defensive Emplacements
x1 G9 Rigger Freighter
x2 Companies (288 units) {To be added/To join Tenko's forces after Gungan Village Siege}
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| OrionKarath | Date: Tuesday, 13 Mar 2012, 11:54 PM | Message # 13 |
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| Then I feel I must clarify, my argument against these two additional companies was because of your justification for their addition/recruitment being the attack on the village. Tenko doesn't know because, as you said, he's not there... but nobody else does to, because no one aside from Ver and the forces involved in the attack know about it. I know you've already pulled out and aren't involved, I'm just putting in the Empire's retribution for the strike against them tacked onto the end of the thread as it is relevant. It is also current and ongoing, which is where I draw issue with the argument that these forces are his means of finding out. The actions of that event have not concluded, so what has occurred isn't known to anyone. Therefore, to approve anything like this, based upon that, or request anything, based upon that, is simply irresponsible. Not to mention, based upon what happens, the Gungans in that village may have lost any will to fight, they may even turn against Tenko for bringing such devastation upon them. They may support him but not want to physically contribute to his war effort... there may be none of them left when all is said and done. The fact of the matter is, it's an ongoing RP, therefore, I will not be approving such an expansion to Tenko's forces. Call me biased if you want, hell I'll even give you the option of asking my vote be thrown out of consideration if you wish, but this is where I stand, and will stand until I can be convinced otherwise.
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| Bar_Tenko | Date: Wednesday, 14 Mar 2012, 0:57 AM | Message # 14 |
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| I'm just going to request that the original count of 2 companies, be boosted up so that it's just requesting a full Battalion (576 units) instead of tacking the extra 288 at the end, so it'll look like this.
x1 Battalion (576 Units)
x2 Squads (8 Men) {Trained to be the personnel bodyguards of Bar Tenko}
x8 Double Bladed Electropoles (For Tenko's bodyguards)
x18 S-5 Heavy Blaster Pistol (Enough to equip two 9 man squads)
x3 "Salvaged" / "Recovered" EWHB-12 Heavy Repeating Blasters
x2 "Salvaged" / "Recovered" PLX-1 Portable Missile Launchers
Vehicles
x10 Gungan Battle Wagons (1 for each Energy Catapult)
x5 Gungan Transport Ships
x1 Bongo Heavy Missile
x2 Bongo Advanced Behemoth
x6 Bongo Fast Laser
x5 Bongo Advanced Scout
Otoh "Tenko" (Under construction)
Deflector Shield Generator
Various Defensive Emplacements
x1 G9 Rigger Freighter
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Wednesday, 14 Mar 2012, 5:53 PM | Message # 15 |
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| I still APPROVE of the numbers I did already, as follows.
x2 Companies (288 Units)
x2 Squads (8 Men) {Trained to be the personnel bodyguards of Bar Tenko}
x8 Double Bladed Electropoles (For Tenko's bodyguards)
x18 S-5 Heavy Blaster Pistol (Enough to equip two 9 man squads)
x3 "Salvaged" / "Recovered" EWHB-12 Heavy Repeating Blasters
x2 "Salvaged" / "Recovered" PLX-1 Portable Missile Launchers
Vehicles
x10 Gungan Battle Wagons (1 for each Energy Catapult)
x5 Gungan Transport Ships
x1 Bongo Heavy Missile
x2 Bongo Advanced Behemoth
x6 Bongo Fast Laser
x5 Bongo Advanced Scout
Otoh "Tenko" (Under construction)
Deflector Shield Generator
Various Defensive Emplacements
x1 G9 Rigger Freighter
I also APPROVE of another company, but not to be used until knowledge of Relius's siege of the Gungan village has become widespread (plus time for these new recruits to actually find Tenko--it can't be too easy or some Gungan quisling would tell the Imperials where he is). Despite the back and forth on this request, it appears everyone's been agreed on this for awhile so I'm hoping we can close up the request on these numbers.
Jace Varitek
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"When my information changes, I change my opinion. What do you do, sir?"
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Furthermore, a dancing Wookiee:
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