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Deschain Request pt. 2
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| Rath-Deschain | Date: Saturday, 08 Sep 2012, 10:38 AM | Message # 1 |
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| This is the second half of the request, for the ship itself.
Designation- Defiler-class Star Destroyer
Length- 1,800 meters
Powerplant- 2x Ionization reactors
Engines- 7x Ion engines
Hyperdrive- Class 2.0
Shielding- 3x Deflector shield generators
Armament-
- 4x [url=
 ]Triple rail cannon[/url] (two port, two starboard, mounted on rails that allow for ninety-degree coverage from front to rear of ship, but cannot fire upwards or downwards, maximum range of 40,000 km)
- 20x Dual heavy turbolaser cannons (turreted, 4x dorsal, 4x ventral, 4x port, 4x starboard, 4x fore)
- 80x Dual medium turbolaser cannons (turreted, 16x fore, 16x aft, 16x port, 16x starboard)
- 200x Quad laser cannons (turreted, 20x fore, 20x aft, 80x port, 80x starboard)
- 8x Proton torpedo launchers (4x fore, 4x aft, 30x torpedoes per tube)
Fighter Compliment-
- 96x TIE fighters
- 30x Delta-class DX-9 stormtrooper transports
Crew Requirements-
- 30,000
- 6,000 minimum crew
Passengers-
Information-
The Defiler-class Star Destroyer is a one-of-a-kind vessel, produced largely behind the scenes through the Empire's resources and intended as a command vessel for High Inquisitor Rath Deschain, as well as a mobile base for the 1st Purifiers Battalion, which is expected to eventually expand into the 1st Purifiers Division as time and training allow. With the multitude of threats in the galaxy and with Jedi banding together alongside better and better-equipped rebellious elements, it is expected that a single member of the Inquisitorious cannot simply fight their way through all obstacles. While requisitioning can be undertaken, Deschain utilized his granted favor from the Emperor to see this ship created.
While considered under-armed by some, this vessel, unlike standard designated Star Destroyers, is not intended to land masses of troops and conduct a planetary pacification and as such, dispensed with the bays required for walkers and extreme amounts of ground forces. Instead, it favors a higher hanger capacity for independent operations against enemy craft and strongholds, as well as allowing for rapid troop deployment in specific locations.
The choice of slower-firing rail cannons over the faster firing and often longer-ranged heavy turbolasers was the ability to wear down shields quicker and allow for heavier damage to hulls at the cost of recharge rate and lesser tracking; projectile weapons in space, after all, can be dodged and are less accurate at long distances when set beside a turbolaser.
Rath Deschain
High Inquisitor
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| Jaron | Date: Saturday, 15 Sep 2012, 6:46 PM | Message # 2 |
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| I think Management needs to meet on this one. Give us two shakes of a lamb's tail. Yes, Jace, I stole your unit of measurement.
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| Karth_DeQora | Date: Saturday, 15 Sep 2012, 6:48 PM | Message # 3 |
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| A real god would just invent a better unit of measurement. Just sayin.
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| Jaron | Date: Saturday, 15 Sep 2012, 6:54 PM | Message # 4 |
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| By that, I see a challenge to open up comments on the request. FINE! I'll do it. Because I am a good. And my Green Lightsaber junk says so.
I'll start with a simple question for Adam; how in the name of Christ, Mohammed, Buddha, and just about every other non-creating deity could you say "some" consider this thing under-armed?
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| Karth_DeQora | Date: Saturday, 15 Sep 2012, 6:58 PM | Message # 5 |
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| Because he's going to try and haggle, obviously. You'd think you've never dealt with an Adamquest 'afore.
You could try and undercut him, by, say, demanding he halve everything.
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| Rath-Deschain | Date: Saturday, 15 Sep 2012, 6:59 PM | Message # 6 |
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| Well, let's look at the armament of an ImpStar deuce.
With the understanding that a 'battery' of guns is between 8-10, if I recall Jaron's measurement correctly.
8x Octuple barbette turbolaser or ion cannons (that's 64 cannons right there.)
50x heavy turbolaser batteries (how many are in a battery again?)
50x turbolaser batteries
26x (or more) additional turbolaser batteries
20x Heavy ion cannons
Now, granted, this ship runs heavy in anti-fighter weapons, the quad laser cannons, but it actually mounts less heavy guns than an ISD-2. One hundred total emplacements compared to the hundred and fifty or more on an ISD-2
Rath Deschain
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| Karth_DeQora | Date: Saturday, 15 Sep 2012, 7:03 PM | Message # 7 |
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| To be honest, I've always operated under the impression that Inquisitors didn't have their own ships, much less their own Legion/Unit/Whatever the Humidifiers are. They tend to just commandeer what's needed for the task at hand. And since an Inquisitor is supposed to act with, well, inconspicuous methods...
Doesn't this megillah just scream "BIG BAD ONBOARD"?
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| Rath-Deschain | Date: Saturday, 15 Sep 2012, 7:24 PM | Message # 8 |
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| Most Inquisitors did, granted. There were those who did everything though from becoming involved with Imperial research to becoming planetary governors. Jerec, albeit much later down the road, had his own super star destroyer. Some of them tended to have a more direct hand in certain events.
This ship does indeed scream 'Bad Guy Here,' which serves a triple purpose.
1) It carries his personal force.
2) It draws enemies to it in the hopes of gaining fame or glory or revenge on the High Inquisitor.
3) If it's in one system, people won't expect him to be off in another on his personal shuttle. It's a sleight of hand.
Rath Deschain
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| Karth_DeQora | Date: Saturday, 15 Sep 2012, 7:32 PM | Message # 9 |
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| I'm not sure it being a sleight of hand warrants the weaponry on this thing.
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| Rath-Deschain | Date: Saturday, 15 Sep 2012, 7:47 PM | Message # 10 |
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| Well I mean, it's also a warship, meant for combat against rebellious, Jedi-backed elements (cause the Inquisitors see Jedi everywhere), as well as being capable of pacifying planets in the same manner as a Star Destroyer does (cause those planets can be said to be harboring Jedi, too) and in general acts as a great service to the Empire with more autonomy to be able to handle a multitude of missions.
Rath Deschain
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Saturday, 15 Sep 2012, 8:34 PM | Message # 11 |
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| I've seen this argument advanced before and I've never really bought it―that the extremely deadly nature of the ship tempts people to attack it. It's certainly not one of the design principles of the Star Destroyer:
Quote "I maintain that the effectiveness of the Star Destroyer stems from not only its massive firepower, but from its size. When citizens look at a Star Destroyer and then compare it to the craft which might be mustered to attack it, they have a tendency to dismiss such a notion as suicidal rather than approach the problem tactically." ―Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin
Case in point. But I digress.
I have a couple of issues with the request. First, it being referred to as a "Star Destroyer." Bearing no resemblance to anything else in the current generation of Star Destroyers, I don't think it should use the Star Destroyer namesake. It should be shorter―much, much shorter―and referred to as a cruiser or battle cruiser.
However, I agree with Karth. While Inquisitors do have different methods and some have influential positions (you mentioned Jerec, also Finius Cale is the de facto Governor of Baltimn), it's still asking an awful lot for a ship that's designed and built specifically for an Inquisitor. Even in the cases I've read where Inquisitors use capital ships, they simply commandeer the nearest one rather than having one permanently assigned to them, much less built for them.
However! I'm willing to compromise on this, as I mentioned in Messenger. Namely, I'll APPROVE of the ship in principle as long as it remains in development while Deschain demonstrates to the Empire the necessity of him having his own ship. During this time, I'd even approve of another ship for Deschain to have assigned to him; perhaps one of the lesser-known (but very cool) designs from The Essential Guide to Warfare.
Jace Varitek
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—John Maynard Keynes
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| Rath-Deschain | Date: Saturday, 15 Sep 2012, 8:49 PM | Message # 12 |
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| How about, Defiler-class fortress ship?
And in the meantime, I'll just roll with the much lower profile Vindicator-class, if that suffices. Short, small and to the point.
Rath Deschain
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| Karth_DeQora | Date: Saturday, 15 Sep 2012, 9:51 PM | Message # 13 |
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| I'm IN FAVOR of the compromise.
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Saturday, 15 Sep 2012, 10:10 PM | Message # 14 |
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| Well I mean, the Defiler is under construction/development for the time as well, so it's not off the board! But yeah. Shitty and inadequate as it is, the Vindicator for you.
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| Rath-Deschain | Date: Sunday, 16 Sep 2012, 8:39 AM | Message # 15 |
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| Yeah, I meant to say the above in my Deschain voice.
Rath Deschain
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