Stark Request Follow-on
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Alyn_Stark | Date: Friday, 21 Sep 2012, 4:18 PM | Message # 1 |
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| Since the request board is dead and I'm extremely high on Vicodin, and thus, more creative, I've tacked on the following parts to go with the SDCSC request, largely because the skyhook needs at least a small armada and the SDCSC need a way to travel. Therefore, there are two proposed vessels. The first is a direct cruiser. The second is a modular cruiser. Look 'em over.
Designation- Avarice-class frigate Length- 300 meters Manufacturer- Lorrd Engineering Speed- 80 MGLT Maximum Atmospheric Speed- 1,200 km/h Hyperdrive Rating- - Class 1.0
- Class 10 backup
Engines- 4x Lorrd Engineering ion engines Armament- - 7x Dual turbolasers (turreted, 1x port ventral fore; 1x starboard ventral fore; 1x central ventral aft; 360 degree fire arc. 2x port mid-ship, sponson mount; 2x starboard mid-ship, sponson mount, capable of firing in 30 degree arcs left and right of central axis)
- 2x Quad turbolasers (sponson mounted, 1x port fore-mid ship, 1x starboard fore-mid ship, capable of firing 90 degrees left and right of central axis)
- 1x Quad laser cannon (turreted, dorsal fore-mid ship)
- 1x Dual ion cannon (turreted, dorsal aft)
Shielding- Equipped Crew- 987 Minimum Crew- 10 Passengers/Troops- 60 Cargo Capacity- 4,000 metric tons Consumables- 1.5 years
Information- The Avarice-class frigate packs a punch for its size. Stark Defense Conglomerate, recognizing the need for dedicated convoy escorts to prevent hijacking and pirate raids upon valuable cargo, partnered with Lorrd Engineering to design this ship. Intended to skirmish with and destroy pirate vessels up to frigate size, the Avarice-class is well-armed and shielded, as well as fast for its intent. With no present or future plans to release this model to the public, it is intended for the Avarice to serve as the primary escort vessel for Stark Defense Conglomerate the growing Stark Defense Conglomerate Security Corps, which plans to expand into a full-on security branch.
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Designation- Breaker-class modular cruiser Length- 1,100 meters Manufacturer- Lorrd Engineering Speed- 50 MGLT Maximum Atmospheric Speed- 820 km/h Hyperdrive Rating- - Class 2.0
- Class 6.0 backup
Engines- 5x Lorrd Engineering ion engines Armament- - 2x Octuple heavy turbolaser cannons (turret mounted, 1x dorsal fore, 1x dorsal aft)
Shielding- Equipped Crew- Varies based on mission profile Minimum Crew- 100 Passengers/Troops- Varies based on mission profile Cargo Capacity- Varies based on mission profile Consumables- 8 months
Module I
Type- Hospital/Rescue Compliment- 5x Kappa-class shuttle with troop area refit for medical equipment and personnel Crew- - 200x Doctors
- 300x Nurses
- 800x Emergency Medical Technicians
- 400x Medical droids
- 150x Repair technicians
Passengers- - 800x in bacta tanks
- 200x in quarantine or sick bay
Cargo Capacity- - 30,000 metric tons
- Mix of medical equipment and starship repair parts.
Module II
Type- Survey Module Compliment- Crew- - 1,000x Scouts
- 700x Technicians
- 3,000x Various type droids
Module III
Type- Observation Module Compliment- - 12x R-41 Starchaser (or equivalent size craft)
Crew- - 1,200x Intelligence and communications specialists
- 300x Probe droids
Cargo Capacity- 4,000 Metric tons
Module IV Type- Pacification Module Armament- - 12x Vertical-firing proton torpedo launchers (4x proton torpedoes per tube)
Compliment- - 12x X-1 Dropships
- 24x M981 APC
Crew- - 100x Heavy armor specialists
- 1,000 Medium/light armor specialists
Cargo Capacity- - 8,000 Metric tons
- Spare parts and armaments, as well as armor recharging stations
Information- The Breaker-class modular cruiser was designed by Lorrd Engineering to serve a number of purposes. With a small amount of dedicated crew and a relatively light armament for a ship its size, the Breaker is, in essence, weapons system, engines and spartan crew quarters with an immense midsection that is dedicated to modular use. Within twenty-four standard hours, each module can be swapped out for a different module at a shipyard capable of handling the size craft, but as this ship is not available for public sale at this time and limited to use by Lorrd Engineering, Vigilance Technologies and Stark Defense Conglomerate.
The multitude of modules are intended to serve a variety of purposes. The Module I type is largely designed for ships produced for use by GalacticAid, allowing for rapid response to planets with disasters of nearly any type to provide the appropriate aid and succor. The Module II type is intended for mining and scouting operations for Lorrdian companies, allowing them to recon planets along the Outer Rim and beyond for untapped resources. Realizing the extended time away such a craft can have, it is equipped with a fighter compliment for defense. The Module III option is present for observation and, to a lesser known degree, long-range espionage. Equipped with delicate long range sensors, the Module III type is intended not as fighting, but as a searching vehicle.
Last and not least exists the Module IV variant, specifically for use by the SDCSC. Sporting heavy carrying capacity for both dropships, APCs and armor, as well as adding additional armaments, the pacification module allows for the SDCSC to quickly respond with force to any strikes against any SDC areas or affiliates.
Alyn Stark Lord of Kinyov Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy Head of House Malos (former) Licensed bounty hunter Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate Civilian Medal of Honor recipient Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
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Karth_DeQora | Date: Saturday, 22 Sep 2012, 2:58 PM | Message # 2 |
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| We LIKE the request board dead. Just because nobody's requesting stuff doesn't mean you should.
*rolls up a newspaper*
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Jace_Varitek | Date: Monday, 24 Sep 2012, 3:13 PM | Message # 3 |
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| Define "SDCSC" please.
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Alyn_Stark | Date: Tuesday, 25 Sep 2012, 3:39 AM | Message # 4 |
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| Stark Defense Conglomerate Security Corps.
In the opening stages, it is designed as a security branch of Stark Defense Conglomerate to secure and safeguard the multiple facilities that are part of SDC. They also act as convoy security for the multiple convoys to prevent hijacking, which has been a problem in the past with SDC convoys. With time and expansion, it is intended that the SDCSC will expand to include private security offered to planets or firms that require such needs at a lower cost than most security companies offer.
Alyn Stark Lord of Kinyov Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy Head of House Malos (former) Licensed bounty hunter Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate Civilian Medal of Honor recipient Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
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Karth_DeQora | Date: Wednesday, 26 Sep 2012, 4:25 PM | Message # 5 |
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| Gonna consult Jace/Jaron on this before I cast a vote.
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Alyn_Stark | Date: Wednesday, 26 Sep 2012, 6:34 PM | Message # 6 |
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| Not even a comment on design?
No offhanded compliment or detraction?
Damn. I feel like chopped liver.
Alyn Stark Lord of Kinyov Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy Head of House Malos (former) Licensed bounty hunter Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate Civilian Medal of Honor recipient Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
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Jace_Varitek | Date: Thursday, 27 Sep 2012, 9:10 AM | Message # 7 |
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| So, I'm not sure we're at a point where a company should have its own custom warships. To my knowledge, we've never done this before. If it was Kuat Drive Yards, you know, I could see that. But a rather small, Lorrd-based company with its own custom warships seems odd to me. Not even the Corporate Sector Authority—the government of thousands of worlds—has custom-designed ships (except the Authority IRD, which is a POS). It also seems like an unnecessary expense that Stark's board members would never, ever approve of. Honestly, I don't think the Empire would put up with an Outer Rim company rocking cruiser-sized warships, either. I think Shirnoq would have questions to answer about his too-close relationship with Lorrd if he let this happen in the Kanz Sector.
Don't get me wrong though, the ships are awesome. I'd just recommend you save them for more plausible use.
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Alyn_Stark | Date: Thursday, 27 Sep 2012, 9:28 AM | Message # 8 |
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| If I may, Stark Defense Conglomerate is not an Outer Rim-based company; it's a Coruscant-based company, not unlike Xizor transport Systems, where, albeit, I drew some of my ideas and inspiration. If I may point out here, example, granted, the article is about Xizor's personal skyhook, but it states Xizor had a personal navy of 'corvettes, frigates, and hundreds of rebuilt surplus fighters.'
You'll find some edits have been made, largely re-designating the Avarice-class as a frigate, which it does technically fall under. The Breaker-class serves enough uses to be multipurpose, and certain models may actually be sold by Lorrd Engineering to the public, but the pacification module would not be available.
You have to keep in mind as well that Lorrd Engineering is more than just one shipyard; it's actually quite extensive. Now I can't see SDC funding dozens upon dozens of ships, but considering the costs are largely in-house with little overhead needed, it would be easy to produce, say, three of each ship for SDC as a starter line for testing and such. The GalacticAid program has its own funding and if need be, Stark could actually pay for some of the costs out of pocket.
Alyn Stark Lord of Kinyov Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy Head of House Malos (former) Licensed bounty hunter Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate Civilian Medal of Honor recipient Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
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Jace_Varitek | Date: Thursday, 27 Sep 2012, 9:52 AM | Message # 9 |
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| I'm not against ships for the Stark Defense Conglomerate. I'm against custom ships for it. I very much doubt Xizor wasted his money on original designs (aside from the StarViper, hardly a capital ship).
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Alyn_Stark | Date: Thursday, 27 Sep 2012, 12:46 PM | Message # 10 |
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| Even custom ships that get paid for by Stark's own pocket? I don't imagine the costs being all that great; I'll even come up with a total. If he funds it himself, it's not the same as the company funding it.
Are the ships themselves overpowered though?Added (27 Sep 2012, 12:46 PM) --------------------------------------------- And technically, XTS is quoted as saying, "XTS manufactured a number of spacecraft design for large-scale transport and trading operations, including container transports, the XQ4 Platform, and a wide variety of modular cargo containers."
So XTS did design their own ships for the company.
Alyn Stark Lord of Kinyov Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy Head of House Malos (former) Licensed bounty hunter Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate Civilian Medal of Honor recipient Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
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Jace_Varitek | Date: Sunday, 30 Sep 2012, 1:32 PM | Message # 11 |
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| Xizor Transport Systems, a transport company, designing its own transports to meet its transport needs is one thing. This is akin to Vigilance, a weapons company, designing its own weapons. But I don't support companies in the RP having their own custom-designed warships for the heck of it when there are all kinds of sensible alternatives. Again, if SDG was on the scale of a KDY or something, I'd be ok with it. I just don't think this is a league that SDG should be playing in or has any good reason to be.
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Alyn_Stark | Date: Sunday, 30 Sep 2012, 2:03 PM | Message # 12 |
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| Question, then. What if the designs were contracted out through someone else? Instead of being produced by Lorrd Engineering, for example, they were produced elsewhere and for wider sale? That way it's a win-win situation. Everyone benefits. Added (30 Sep 2012, 2:03 PM) --------------------------------------------- After all, Lorrd Engineering does sell ships, so this would be their first original design for sale to the wider galaxy. SDC would be able to pick some up as well.
Alyn Stark Lord of Kinyov Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy Head of House Malos (former) Licensed bounty hunter Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate Civilian Medal of Honor recipient Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
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Jace_Varitek | Date: Sunday, 30 Sep 2012, 10:50 PM | Message # 13 |
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| I'll say this: that's a good idea. But the objection I have is a broader one than whether or not it's possible for SDG to have these ships, an objection which I'll state thusly: Stark's company repping these custom ships gives it more street cred than a company of its size should have, in my opinion. The problem I have is that this seems intended for no purpose but to strut SDG's stuff, but this stuff is out of whack with what a company of this size should have in accordance with everything we know about the canon in this time period, in my view.
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Jace_Varitek | Date: Sunday, 30 Sep 2012, 10:52 PM | Message # 14 |
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| But hey, if my vote was the only one that mattered, you wouldn't have that X-1 dropship right now. So there's a bright side here.
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Jace_Varitek | Date: Sunday, 30 Sep 2012, 10:56 PM | Message # 15 |
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| Hey! I remember where I've seen that ship before! It was the Union cruiser design in Arthosis Dawn! I knew it was familiar, I knew it I knew it I knew it!
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