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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Monday, 10 Dec 2012, 5:19 PM | Message # 1 |
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| Before I begin the request, I'd like to say that it is a purely defensive request in this matter, with Lorrd damaged and reeling to an extent from the attack. As such, the Ruling Houses prevailed upon Roman Lekpin to plead their case to Alyn Stark and beg for reinforcements. While it is a risky venture for Stark, to do any less than defend his homeworld would be unthinkable. As such, utilizing portions of his own personal wealth and the wealth of the Ruling Houses, the following items would be delivered to Lorrd along with the following alterations:
Lorrdian Defense Forces Modifications
I. With the Acclamator II being Lorrd's primary anti-capital vessel, it would be rushed from Lorrd to the Kol Huro System, where it would undergo massive repairs as quickly as possible to get it back to functionality. Looks would be sacrificed over the ability to be a combat-worthy vessel again. An alternate option exists wherein Rothana would repair the Acclamator II and loan one out to Lorrd until repairs are finished.
II. The Gozanti cruisers would be rotated, two by two, to be refit, altering them from their current modification here to remove the 25 passenger space maximum and reconfigure them to the specifications found here.
Defensive Temporary Additions
I. The ten Breaker-class modular cruisers allotted to GalacticAid would be refit at Lorrd Engineering Shipyards in the Kol Huro Sector with the Pacification Module, allowing for at least some line of defense, though these vessels are not meant as front-line combat units.
II. Two existing Avarice-class frigates mentioned here as testbed units would be sent in their unmodified form to serve as swift picket defenders for Lorrd. If possible, a pair of partially completed ships would be finished and also pressed into temporary Lorrdian service.
III. The addition of six squadrons of X-1 Dropships allotted as part of the thrown-together fleet, taken from the SDCSC.
IV. Three squadrons of I-002 series drones bearing the modifications that allow them to act as unmanned combat space vehicles.
V. Four squadrons of T-009 series drones and two squadrons of S-005 series drones be utilized to bolster the two squadrons of existing Lorrdian Defense Forces starfighter corps.
VI. A large number of suits of AV-1c combat armor to equip the Lorrdian Defense Forces ground troops, as well as two hundred AV-1a assault armors. Included in this are the AMX-50 'Blast and Smash' rifles and other assorted SDC products to include SDC 348-R Automated Defense Systems, M25 Smartguns and a large number of M981 APCs that were intended for the SDCSC's use.
VII. Eight each of the Large Gun Emplacement and Large Gun/Warhead Emplacement to serve as a static line of defense for Lorrd as their station is incapacitated at the moment.
VIII. 150-200 KSSR-001 drones for ground defense, coupled with six squadrons of AS-003 series anti-air drones.
The temporary forces listed above would serve to prevent attacks on Lorrd, or repel such as best they could, on a strictly temporary basis. On a final cessation of the conflict, the Breaker-class vessels would be modified back to carrying their hospital modules and returned to GalacticAid. Two of the Avarice-class frigates would be utilized to swap out two Gozanti cruisers, which would be mothballed with Lorrd Engineering.
The drone forces would be returned to Vigilance Technologies, minus the cost of any destroyed units. The vehicles and X-1 dropships intended for SDCSC's use would likewise be returned. This is to represent more or less an all-out effort to make a stand against attackers who are willing to destroy their own vessels to destroy a station in the event of an attack by suicide ramming.
Alyn Stark
Lord of Kinyov
Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy
Head of House Malos (former)
Licensed bounty hunter
Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering
Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate
Civilian Medal of Honor recipient
Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Tuesday, 11 Dec 2012, 11:43 PM | Message # 2 |
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| So, I wrote this entire post and then lost it when I clicked "Post Reply." I'm going to attempt to hastily-reconstruct it now from what I can recall. I'm leaving out explanations at some points because I'm tired, oh so tired, and I don't want to re-write everything I had before. But I have explanations for all of the below which I'll provide tomorrow if asked.
Quote (Alyn_Stark) I. With the Acclamator II being Lorrd's primary anti-capital vessel, it would be rushed from Lorrd to the Kol Huro System, where it would undergo massive repairs as quickly as possible to get it back to functionality. Looks would be sacrificed over the ability to be a combat-worthy vessel again. An alternate option exists wherein Rothana would repair the Acclamator II and loan one out to Lorrd until repairs are finished.
APPROVE. 5 to 7 days completion time.
Quote (Alyn_Stark) II. The Gozanti cruisers would be rotated, two by two, to be refit, altering them from their current modification here to remove the 25 passenger space maximum and reconfigure them to the specifications found here.
APPROVE. 2 to 3 days completion time for each pair.
Quote (Alyn_Stark) I. The ten Breaker-class modular cruisers allotted to GalacticAid would be refit at Lorrd Engineering Shipyards in the Kol Huro Sector with the Pacification Module, allowing for at least some line of defense, though these vessels are not meant as front-line combat units.
APPROVE. Seized by Lorrd's government over objections of GalacticAid. Repercussions for Stark.
Quote (Alyn_Stark) II. Two existing Avarice-class frigates mentioned here as testbed units would be sent in their unmodified form to serve as swift picket defenders for Lorrd. If possible, a pair of partially completed ships would be finished and also pressed into temporary Lorrdian service.
DENY. There are no existing Avarice-class frigates.
Quote (Alyn_Stark) III. The addition of six squadrons of X-1 Dropships allotted as part of the thrown-together fleet, taken from the SDCSC.
DENY. The SDCSC has no X-1 Dropships to allot.
Quote (Alyn_Stark) IV. Three squadrons of I-002 series drones bearing the modifications that allow them to act as unmanned combat space vehicles.
APPROVE. 5 to 7 days completion time if you have somewhere to build them?
Quote (Alyn_Stark) V. Four squadrons of T-009 series drones and two squadrons of S-005 series drones be utilized to bolster the two squadrons of existing Lorrdian Defense Forces starfighter corps.
APPROVE of 2 squadrons of T-009 drones. 5 to 7 days completion time on top of the 5 to 7 days for the above I-002 drones. S-005 drones too powerful.
Quote (Alyn_Stark) VI. A large number of suits of AV-1c combat armor to equip the Lorrdian Defense Forces ground troops, as well as two hundred AV-1a assault armors. Included in this are the AMX-50 'Blast and Smash' rifles and other assorted SDC products to include SDC 348-R Automated Defense Systems, M25 Smartguns and a large number of M981 APCs that were intended for the SDCSC's use.
APPROVE a "small number" of suits, 5 to 7 days transit time from GTU. Repercussions for Stark. Limited numbers of guns.
Quote (Alyn_Stark) VII. Eight each of the Large Gun Emplacement and Large Gun/Warhead Emplacement to serve as a static line of defense for Lorrd as their station is incapacitated at the moment.
Where are these coming from?
Quote (Alyn_Stark) VIII. 150-200 KSSR-001 drones for ground defense, coupled with six squadrons of AS-003 series anti-air drones.
APPROVE 15 KSSR-001 drones and 10 AS-003 anti-air drones.
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Wednesday, 12 Dec 2012, 2:50 AM | Message # 3 |
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| I. I can go with this.
2. I can go with this.
3. I can go with this.
4. If Lorrd prevailed upon their ally of Druckenwell to produce two for them though, what would be the completion time?
5. Likewise, if Lorrd prevailed upon Sluis Van for three squadrons of X-1 dropships, what is the production time?
6. If I cancel out the three squadrons of I-002 drones with the modifications, can get I get two squadrons of T-009 drones extra instead?
7. With the assumption of the fact that Lorrd's standing ground forces are already equipped with certain items, these items would be sold to the Lorrdian government as support items with a payment paid upon completion of the war, if it occurs.
8. Stark's connections with Wandrau Arms thanks to his partnership with Heironymous Kuat.
9. With the ground forces arrayed against Lorrd, especially in terms of heavy combat units, the AS-003 are practically the heaviest items available for anti-vehicular use, barring any sales that will come from other companies such as Dorvalla Universal or whatnot. If sales from outside companies are allowed, then I'm good with these numbers.
Alyn Stark
Lord of Kinyov
Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy
Head of House Malos (former)
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Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering
Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate
Civilian Medal of Honor recipient
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| Davon_Vanden | Date: Wednesday, 12 Dec 2012, 3:03 PM | Message # 4 |
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| Alright, there's a lot of information here to process, so let me organize my thoughts. Stuff I agree with won't be burdened by words, I'll elaborate if I find stuff I disagree with.
I. APPROVE with the allotted amount of time.
II. APPROVE.
I. APPROVE.
II. Pooling resources with Druckenwell is a violation of Rule 1.2, I'm reticent to allow them to suddenly produce ships if only to give you more firepower.
III. Ditto for Sluis Van.
IV. APPROVE.
V. APPROVE of 4 squadrons of T-009's.
VI. Not sure if it's worth getting into number specifics, I CONCUR with Jace's stipulation of a small amount.
VII. I'll let Jaron or Jace comment further on this, while I look a bit into Stark's connection here.
VIII. I'd rather you buy from outside companies than from Dorvalla, a company you also control.
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Wednesday, 12 Dec 2012, 3:08 PM | Message # 5 |
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| Sorry Karth, there's going to be a few edits here before I'm done. Some ideas have been changed around so please bear with me.
Alyn Stark
Lord of Kinyov
Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy
Head of House Malos (former)
Licensed bounty hunter
Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering
Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate
Civilian Medal of Honor recipient
Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
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| Davon_Vanden | Date: Wednesday, 12 Dec 2012, 3:10 PM | Message # 6 |
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| Fair enough, I'll amend my judgments once you've edited.
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| Jaron | Date: Thursday, 13 Dec 2012, 11:27 AM | Message # 7 |
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| I will state now that anything involving any characters or companies you, as a player, control, I will deny due to violation of rule 1.2. Keep that in consideration while you re-work this.
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Thursday, 13 Dec 2012, 11:35 AM | Message # 8 |
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| I APPROVE of VII., however, not because of Stark's co-ownership of Wandrau Arms with Kuat but because, Stark tells me in Messenger, the gun emplacements would be purchased, not on loan. 10 to 12 days completion/transit time, however.
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Saturday, 15 Dec 2012, 8:57 PM | Message # 9 |
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| Okay, so, with some edits now.
I. The Acclamator II we seem to have agreed upon for the repairs. Such repairs would be undertaken at Lorrd Engineering's larger of the two shipyards.
II. The Gozanti cruiser refits would also occur, simultaneous, at the above-listed shipyard.
III. The Breaker-class ships would be seized by Lorrd and impressed into the defensive fleet, thereby eliminating some of the negative publicity or issues that could come from Stark himself simply taking them from GalacticAid. The refits, of course, could be quickly done as well.
IV. The stationary emplacements are still good to go.
The above-listed items have been more or less met with approval. Now for the additional parts.
I. 35x M981 APCs would be produced by Lorrd Engineering's vehicle plant for Lorrd's war effort.
II. A total of 10x each of TX-130 and TX-130T vehicles would be purchased.
III. From Dorvalla Arms (a branch of Dorvalla Universal), 8x Fury-class siege tanks, 20x Sovereign-class battle tanks and 20x Prowler-class medium assault vehicles would be purchased. Stats here.
IV. Lorrd would purchase from Sluis Van their 'showroom model' of the Dominus-class dreadnaught and Komodo-class battleship, allowing for further defense.
V. Druckenwell Shipyards will be subcontracted for the purpose of building one squadron of X-1 dropships and a single Avarice-class frigate, while Lorrd Engineering's smaller, secondary shipyard will produce one squadron of X-1 dropships and one Avarice-class frigate.
VI. Also purchased would be a solitary Liberator-class cruiser and one to two [i]Strike[/c]-class cruisers (management's discretion).
Alyn Stark
Lord of Kinyov
Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy
Head of House Malos (former)
Licensed bounty hunter
Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering
Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate
Civilian Medal of Honor recipient
Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Saturday, 15 Dec 2012, 10:49 PM | Message # 10 |
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| Quote (Alyn_Stark) I. With the Acclamator II being Lorrd's primary anti-capital vessel, it would be rushed from Lorrd to the Kol Huro System, where it would undergo massive repairs as quickly as possible to get it back to functionality. Looks would be sacrificed over the ability to be a combat-worthy vessel again. An alternate option exists wherein Rothana would repair the Acclamator II and loan one out to Lorrd until repairs are finished.
APPROVED. 5 to 7 days completion time.
Quote (Alyn_Stark) II. The Gozanti cruisers would be rotated, two by two, to be refit, altering them from their current modification here to remove the 25 passenger space maximum and reconfigure them to the specifications found here.
APPROVED. 2 to 3 days completion time for each pair.
Quote (Alyn_Stark) III. The (10) Breaker-class ships would be seized by Lorrd and impressed into the defensive fleet, thereby eliminating some of the negative publicity or issues that could come from Stark himself simply taking them from GalacticAid. The refits, of course, could be quickly done as well.
APPROVED. 2 to 3 days completion time.
Quote (Alyn_Stark) IV. Eight each of the Large Gun Emplacement and Large Gun/Warhead Emplacement (purchased from Wandrau Arms) to serve as a static line of defense for Lorrd as their station is incapacitated at the moment.
APPROVED. 14 to 18 days completion and transit time with the condition that Lorrd escorts the cargo into the Lorrd system and protects Wandrau personnel during setup of the emplacements.
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Quote (Alyn_Stark) 35 M981 APCs would be produced by Lorrd Engineering's vehicle plant for Lorrd's war effort.
APPROVE. 7 to 10 days completion time. However, I need to know the warhead capacity.
Quote (Alyn_Stark) II. A total of 10x each of TX-130 and TX-130T vehicles would be purchased (from Imperial Surplus, Inc.).
APPROVE. 7 to 10 days expedited (and more costly) shipping time.
Quote (Alyn_Stark) III. From Dorvalla Arms (a branch of Dorvalla Universal)
8x Fury-class siege tanks
20 Sovereign-class battle tanks
20 Prowler-class medium assault vehicles
APPROVE. 7 to 10 days completion and transit time.
Quote IV. Lorrd would purchase from Sluis Van their 'showroom model' of the Dominus-class dreadnaught and Komodo-class battleship, allowing for further defense.
I APPROVE of one or the other of these. Both of them is pushing Rule 1.2 beyond what is acceptable to me, I'm afraid.
Quote (Alyn_Stark) V. Druckenwell Shipyards will be subcontracted for the purpose of building one squadron of X-1 dropships and a single Avarice-class frigate, while Lorrd Engineering's smaller, secondary shipyard will produce one squadron of X-1 dropships and one Avarice-class frigate.
I APPROVE of Druckenwell Shipyards being subcontracted on a outrageously costly basis (allies, yes, but business is business, especially with H. Kuat at Druckenwell Shipyards) to build 1 Avarice-class, while Lorrd Engineering builds the other 1 and both squadrons of X-1 dropships. However, I must insist on the Avarice-class ships being constructed in this short a time would have a lot of technical bugs and mechanical flaws. I just don't believe a quality ship can be built in so short a time.
P.S. I casually refer to him henceforth as "H. Kuat" because in referring to him as "Kuat" in an earlier post it had been assumed I was talking about Kuat Drive Yards.
Quote VI. Also purchased would be a solitary Liberator-class cruiser and one to two Strike-class cruisers (management's discretion).
Strike-class cruisers are DENIED for the same reason we denied them for Jamie; namely, they don't exist yet. I assume the Liberator-class is purchased from SoroSuub? In which case I APPROVE but must insist on a completion/transit time of 14 to 18 days, generously. I don't think the "showroom model" justification can fly on this one.
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Saturday, 15 Dec 2012, 11:12 PM | Message # 11 |
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| It seems I also left out the previously approved Killshot and Airstrike drones that were approved (15 and 10 respectively) and the 2 (by Jace) or 4(by Karth) squadrons of T-009 drones. My apologies. With the revamp of the request, I did forget to add those in. Also, would it be possible to have more than 15 and 10 on-hand or produced, since they are produced 1) In the Kanz Sector already, 2) Only for use within the planetary limits and not space-use and 3) The smallest and most easily produced of all the drones?
So, to the request itself with anything I need to make points on.
I, II, III and IV- I concur.
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I. Warhead capacity is 4. Mortar capacity is 18.
II. I concur.
III. I concur.
IV. The Dominus-class, if you please.
V. Also acceptable. I assume the frigates will have basic control function, reactors and operational ability of weapon systems and targeting systems, as well as shields, but be lacking in a multitude of areas such as crew bunks, repair items, medical facilities, etc. In essence they'll be an armored hull with little more than the above systems. Unless you prefer to impose what does and doesn't work.
VI. My apologies on the Strike-class. In place of such, the common and older-model Munifex-class or Class 1000 depending on your terminology, would serve just as aptly.
Alyn Stark
Lord of Kinyov
Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy
Head of House Malos (former)
Licensed bounty hunter
Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering
Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate
Civilian Medal of Honor recipient
Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
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| Hector_Cynum | Date: Monday, 17 Dec 2012, 10:45 AM | Message # 12 |
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| Just a point of information for other RPers (sorry to jump in here, not my place).
Can you list the total forces this will put under Lorrdian disposal for the conflict as a clear list of ships/squadrons? As you don't edit the original request this really is completely opaque to the untrained outsider.
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Tuesday, 18 Dec 2012, 11:57 AM | Message # 13 |
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| So, I've done some soul-searching. I found nothing. But then I rubbed my chin contemplatively and thought to myself, wow, I need to shave. So I did that, and then it hit me. The door, that is, as I left the bathroom. It was then that a lightbulb lit up over my head. Because I turned on the light, naturally. And then I sat down and thought about this request, in part because I was guilted into doing so, but also because I've become more apprehensive about this request over the last day or so. I must state I'm uncomfortable with both sides of this conflict re-arming themselves in so short an amount of time when the forces we originally approved for you both were intended as much for a war as for peace. This notion seems to have taken hold (admittedly, we managers haven't discouraged it) that the forces we've approved for a planet or sector basically don't matter when it comes time to actually use them, to such an extent that we're now talking about far more forces for Lorrd and the Auril Sector than we'd ever approve under normal circumstances.
It's mainly our desire for fairness that's led us here; I, especially, will admit that I've felt an inclination to approve more for Lorrd than I otherwise would, and tolerate "showroom model" excuses, etc. in the interest of a "fair fight." To a lesser extent, we've wanted the respective combatants to be well-equipped enough so they're not tempted to call upon their other characters in violation of Rule 1.2. Mind you, I still hold to the line Karth and Jaron have drawn on Rule 1.2. But I feel we must additionally draw a more realistic line on these requests; capital ships can't be built in 5 days, the X-1 dropships really are far more powerful than anything we'd ordinarily approve, and so on.
Thus I must make the following adjustments to my Message #10.
I. 5 to 7 7 to 10 days completion time.
II. (no change)
III. (no change)
IV. 14 to 18 18 to 20 days completion and transit time with the condition that Lorrd escorts the cargo into the Lorrd system and protects Wandrau personnel during setup of the emplacements.
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I. (no change)
II. (no change)
III. 7 to 10 10 to 14 days completion and transit time.
IV. I vote to DENY, unless you want to wait 4 to 6 weeks for the ship to be built. Sluis Van isn't going to rush art, and I'm afraid I don't buy it happening to have a kilometer+ ship just sitting around.
V. I vote to DENY the X-1 dropships. The weapons loadout is just over-the-top. Let the record show I voted to deny them in the first place. I consider this to be in the category of the Missile Boat, which we've consistently denied for being overpowered. I'm sorry to go back on my earlier vote, but I must have been dealing with numbers only and not statistics. I'm not in favor of this craft. I also adjust my completion time on the pair of Avarice-class ships to 2 to 3 weeks each assuming, as I've said, they're being built very fast and skimping on quality. Druckenwell Shipyards and Lorrd Engineering are rather small shipwrights; I don't see either of them building a capital ship any faster than this.
VI. I APPROVE of the "Class 1000 cruiser" (I'm old school). 5 to 7 days transit time.
Also, yes, a more readable list of the total approved forces will be posted once we've figured out what the total approved forces are.
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Tuesday, 18 Dec 2012, 12:01 PM | Message # 14 |
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| I'm also strongly against editing any post in a request thread at any point. Editing the original again and again while the request is still a work in progress renders all the replies to the thread incomprehensible.
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| Davon_Vanden | Date: Tuesday, 18 Dec 2012, 2:09 PM | Message # 15 |
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| Now I'm thoroughly confused. Lemme confer about this and I'll post on it tonight.
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