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Dimitri-MaximovDate: Sunday, 29 Nov 2009, 2:14 PM | Message # 1
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As noted in the profile, there are sixteen of the following units. They are a crew and backup bounty-hunting team and assassination squad for said character. All characteristics are the same, minus individual learning programs to account for the different experiences each droid has gone through (and in some cases, been rebuilt from).

][ General Statistics ][

][ Height ][ 6'
][ Sensor color ][ Red

][ Weapons ][


  • 1x Lightwhip (attached under left wrist)
  • 1x Monomolecular scythe (replaces right hand)
  • 1x Monomolecular quad-blade (tip of tail)
  • 1x Monomolecular punching blade (head-mounted)

][ Armor ][

Realizing the need for heavy armor, the droids are fashioned with duranium alloy bodies that include EMP shielding for the sensitive parts.


Dimitri Maximov
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Jace_VaritekDate: Sunday, 29 Nov 2009, 11:58 PM | Message # 2
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I might be convinced to approve of one, if it was a playable character. Even then, the weaponry would have to be scaled down. You mentioned that this weaponry is tame compared to IG-88. This is true. But any loadout is tame compared to IG-88's. It's also my understanding that battle droids aren't common in this time period. Regardless, I prefer to see organic crews, henchmen, etc. because it requires more effort to recruit them, and so on. I vote to deny. I have more reasons but I'm trying out being concise tonight.

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Dimitri-MaximovDate: Monday, 30 Nov 2009, 8:31 AM | Message # 3
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I'd be willing to scale it back to one who is used as an NPC/PC for this character. It took me a while but I came up with a way for it to work as opposed to needing a number of them to run a ship.

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Jory_CarsonDate: Monday, 30 Nov 2009, 9:35 AM | Message # 4
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I would vote to Approve ONE driod pending a closer look into the weaponry.
 
Dimitri-MaximovDate: Monday, 30 Nov 2009, 9:49 AM | Message # 5
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I'm willing to drop the gas dispersal unit and the projectile blades from the back. The rest is kinda already in the picture...

They're not impossible to defeat, just difficult. I mean, hell, keep 'em at range and you can pound them to pieces. Get up close and that's just asking to get hammered. It's like the David and Goliath deal.


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Jace_VaritekDate: Monday, 30 Nov 2009, 11:46 PM | Message # 6
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I don't mean to be stubborn or obstructionist, but there's just too much extravagant weaponry on this droid for me to be comfortable with. It's far beyond the abilities of most battle droids in use in Star Wars (with notable excesses and exceptions to that general rule). It also appears, in the picture, far too spindly to realistically have any sort of effective ion-proof armor. If it was, perhaps, just an armored box on wheels with guns on it, I would be more convinced. But the whole thing is just too extravagant for me.

Also, the use of GenoHaradan (which I assume is involved in the manufacture of this droid) has not been requested.

Jace Varitek


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Dimitri-MaximovDate: Tuesday, 01 Dec 2009, 6:01 AM | Message # 7
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It doesn't actually have any ion-proof armor. It just has EMP shielding over critical part, such as the processors mounted in the legs and such. Ion damage would still affect things such as mobility, weapons and such. It just won't shut the droid down completely from one blast. It's sort of a last-ditch effort.

The GenoHaradan were not involved in the manufacture of the droid, actually. I was using their corporation's front (that is now closed down) to say where Dimitri acquired the plans for the basis and the idea.


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EchuuShinzonDate: Tuesday, 01 Dec 2009, 4:22 PM | Message # 8
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I'm slightly confused, which I would have to apologize for. Monomolecular, as in incredibly thin due to the molecular strands which bind the specific alloy? Though I then assume that this scythe which the droid uses is so thin that to look at the blade direction (as opposed to from the side) it would be invisible to the naked eye?

I can understand a monomolecular whip, for instance (like fish wire, but more sturdy) but I can't imagine something larger being monomolecular, unless if course multiple strands of the molecular building block are added together to give it a general shape and sturdiness.

I'm against the Lightwhip, nearly 100%. The only reference that I have read of Lightwhips is Lumiya, but upon further research I've found references to several other Jedi's--or force sensitives--who have been "known users" (though I can't quantify the evidence beyond their reference on Wookiepedia).

One Bounty Hunter was listed as being a lightwhip user, but when I visited her page, it listed that the technology in her whip was different from that of a regular lightwhip, so I'm not quite sure what direction that takes.

All-in-all, the evidence seems to point to the rarity of the device (more rare than lightsabers, which themselves I like to restrict to one per force user), and thus, in concurrence with what I stated earlier, I'm against allowing such a device. However, I'm always up for reasonable explanations as to how the droids came to acquire the devices.


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EchuuShinzonDate: Thursday, 10 Dec 2009, 5:29 PM | Message # 9
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It has been ten days since I listed some of my worries about the aforementioned request, and no response has been made. As such, I must regrettably vote to DENY the request.

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EchuuShinzonDate: Thursday, 10 Dec 2009, 5:32 PM | Message # 10
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Note: The current standings are as follows

Jace: DENY
Echuu: DENY
Jory: APPROVE (Pending Weaponry Scaling) which can be considered in my opinion a DENY since his condition is the same worry that the other managers have about this particular request.

I will however refrain from officially denying this request for an additional week to allow for a possible tweak to said request, which may (or may not) change the votes.


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Jace_VaritekDate: Thursday, 10 Dec 2009, 6:49 PM | Message # 11
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Might I suggest this?

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Dimitri-MaximovDate: Friday, 11 Dec 2009, 1:52 AM | Message # 12
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Echuu, sorry for the delay. The Drill Sergeants have us doing bitch details out the rear. Clean this, clean that, arrange the bunks, file paperwork. It sucks up a lot of time. And, technically speaking, I'm not quite supposed to have my phone, so I have to be careful.

On the weapons: I listed them wrong. The blades are not monomolecular, just the cutting edges, making them quite sharp. The rest of the weapon is easily visible and does not disappear when turned sideways.

If you are against the lightwhip, I can change it into something else. A rapid-heating wire or some sort that conducts heat very well, almost a miniature cutting torch of sorts.

Jace, good droid model, but I'd still need a backup man n missions.


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Jory_CarsonDate: Sunday, 13 Dec 2009, 10:42 AM | Message # 13
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It seems that there is not going to be much in the way of 'coming to an agreement' on this issue. If there are any other last minute attempts to work this out then lets have 'em, otherwise this should be brought to a close.

For my part, I would hear what you intend to change the lightwhip to, however I must agree with Jace that the whole thing just looks a tas too 'spindly'.

Also, this is getting a bit out of hand as far as modifying the request, if you don't mind, throw up an updated version with weapons and armor listed like you have the initial request so we might go over it without mistaking earlier posts.

 
Jace_VaritekDate: Sunday, 13 Dec 2009, 10:21 PM | Message # 14
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Might I suggest, as a backup man, an actual man? I alluded to this in my first post on this thread (I was thoroughly drunk when I wrote it, but it's surprisingly articulate under the circumstances).

Jace "Taking a Short Break from His Essays" Varitek


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OrionKarathDate: Thursday, 17 Dec 2009, 3:54 AM | Message # 15
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With no discourse over several days, although it is slightly understandable why on Maximov's end, and while I myself like to approve new and different things... I have to make things easier on all and go with the consensus here.

This request is DENIED.

Might I suggest redesigning the droid or come at us with a toned down version or less...out there type design. I know its hard, but I'm thinking the man reason you saw resistance here is that design was just a bit overpowered.


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