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To the bougres risible planning to trade with Colla IV
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| Jamie_the_Hutt | Date: Sunday, 11 Sep 2011, 3:55 PM | Message # 16 |
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| I absolutely agree. If you do though, my advice stands!
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Sunday, 11 Sep 2011, 6:38 PM | Message # 17 |
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| Paul raises two credible points, which I'll condense into one; it's possible, if not probable, that Colla IV was punished severely with an Imperial invasion and the fact that it appears as an "Imperial fortress world" in 4 ABY would indeed seem to support this. Paul's third point—that selling sophisticated technology in exchange for flesh is just plain silly, especially when flesh can be mass cloned in a laboratory—may or not be true from one's own point of view, but it's immaterial insofar as the canon proves that Colicoids are indeed willing to do just that. But focusing on the main point, I see two possibilities as far as management arbitration is concerned on Colla IV's status as of now;
1.) The Empire returned to Colla IV in the months following its disastrous first attempt to capture the planet; this time, it was successful in doing so, exacting harsh retribution for the participation of the Colicoids in the Clone Wars. As of now, in 10 BBY, the planet is fortified and the production of weapons, droids, etc. strictly controlled. Some points to consider for the RP:
▪ This outcome seems the most probable.
▪ The Colicoids would be eliminated as a presence in the RP, and no further Colicoid designs would be manufactured.
Or.
2.) The Empire, in the months following the Clone Wars, turned its attention to internal politics and the elimination of the remaining Jedi and was in no hurry to repeat its disastrous first attempt to capture Colla IV. Since this time, Colla IV has fortified itself against the Imperial invasion that is bound to come. Things to consider:
▪ Colla IV and its weapons, droids, etc. would remain in the RP, and could potentially become a player-controlled faction.
▪ However, 9 years is a long time for the Empire to drag its feet especially when it's demonstrated no hesitation to use overwhelming force, planetary bombardment, etc.
▪ If for whatever reason the Empire hasn't invaded already, it's hard to imagine it wouldn't at least blockade the planet and closely monitor its activities.
It's probably clear that my sympathies are with option 1., but I'm open to other thoughts on this too. I'd like to contribute one also--that it's conceivable a Colicoid foundry could be operating outside of Colla IV, considering the Confederacy's demand for droids and its vast astrographic distribution (that, and surely the Colicoids would be aware that they would become a target of the Republic eventually and it would be useful to have foundries off-site so that revenues aren't ended by a potential blockade of the planet). If we went with this idea, I'd probably prefer to see someone RP as a particular Colicoid in charge of a particular foundry. I'm not going with this necessarily, but it's a thought. I'm open to other thoughts.
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| Valin_Rall | Date: Sunday, 11 Sep 2011, 8:01 PM | Message # 18 |
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| Okay, so Option 1. seems like the one that will be most accepted by others on the site, so I'll go with that. I'd like to make a note though, that while I'm sure the Empire would pick up, pack up, and ship out the most dangerous of the droids, and send them off to the Deep Core, or lock up the weapon, droid and vehicle foundries on Colla IV to prevent the Colicoids from regaining any real power, I'd still think that there would be some Colicoids that during the closing of the Clone Wars, would see that the Empire would win and that those Colicoids would hide designs and a few of the droids they'd manage to get away from the Empire, and keep them in secret for when a time comes for the Colicoids to regain their world, such as the New Republic assault in 5ABY.
Like I said, I'll agree with Option 1, I'd just have the idea in my head that some Colicoids would hide as much of the droids they could, and that there would be those few that would be desperate enough to barter them for meat, as I'm gonna take a guess and say that not only would the Imperial Crack down stifle the Colicoids droid/weapon and vehicle production, it'd also probably have a crippling effect on their food production as well, and as we've seen through out the world, when hunger is an issue, people will do desperate things in those times. So I wouldn't see the Colicoids bartering meat for technology in the Empire times as silly, as much as a desperate act on the Colicoids part to be able to feed themselves.
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| Baird | Date: Sunday, 11 Sep 2011, 9:18 PM | Message # 19 |
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| Something always bothers Jamie, I've not known him long enough to get a grip on how he acts to stuff, we've only talked briefly now and then, and I've had him on my MSN list for quiet some time.
I know Mandalorian's rub him the wrong way, right jamie? You silly ol' Smeghead! (I don't know if that's good or bad, I heard one British fella call another one that once, sorry if it's rude. <3)
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Friend of the oppressed.
Liberator of the enthralled.
Damian Baird.
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| Jamie_the_Hutt | Date: Monday, 12 Sep 2011, 2:52 PM | Message # 20 |
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| Turns out what happened is pretty much explained here. Looks like the creation nest (only droid producing part of the population) kept their heads down and respected a contract with the Empire not to produce battle droids for 50 years while allowing the Empire to occupy their world - If they didn't regard the contract as solid then I don't see them suing the Alliance to have it removed two generations later.
I hardly think the nest would risk the utter destruction of the species threatened by bucking Imperial rule and rocking the boat (they would be aware what happened to Kashyyyk for example) and seem to just want to get on with trading in legal droids etc. This is not to say that (as jace points out) there might be a few rogue colicoids out there with a stock of droids, and also perhaps a few "franchise" factories farmed out to make their droids, but these would be unlikely to work after all this time.
So in conclusion
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