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| Akku | Date: Tuesday, 28 Feb 2012, 11:14 AM | Message # 1 |
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| Don't mean to burst your bubble. But Grand moffs don't exist quite yet. Hence why there aren't any others. Pretty sure Cole would've been promoted to Grand Moff, as well as a few others.
Wilhuff Tarkin's the first in the galactic empire, I'm sure soon enough most moff's will be granted Grand Moff titles.
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Tuesday, 28 Feb 2012, 1:31 PM | Message # 2 |
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| We're starting to introduce Grand Moffs, so you all know. Tarkin is the first, as he is in the canon. The thought was that Ares could be the Grand Moff of an Oversector we're making for RP purposes called the Triellus Oversector, that basically surrounds Hutt Space. However, he hasn't been appointed yet IC—there will be an IC statement about that today, probably. But yes, there will be more Grand Moffs as we go on, to be rewarded primarily based on activity (looking at you, Cole). But I must warn you we plan, at this time, to trickle out the promotions very slowly so that it's an incentive to RP more.
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| Havoc | Date: Tuesday, 28 Feb 2012, 2:16 PM | Message # 3 |
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| Honestly man, talk about a low-life post.
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| OrionKarath | Date: Tuesday, 28 Feb 2012, 2:36 PM | Message # 4 |
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| What does that mean, Havoc?
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| Havoc | Date: Tuesday, 28 Feb 2012, 2:43 PM | Message # 5 |
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| Only messing around. o_O
Wanna fight? We can knuckle this outside.
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Tuesday, 28 Feb 2012, 3:18 PM | Message # 6 |
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| Here's a rough map of the Triellus Oversector, btw. (I fixed it, Jaron).
Don't make fun of how sloppy it is. It was darn hard to make, okay?
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| Jamie_the_Hutt | Date: Tuesday, 28 Feb 2012, 3:31 PM | Message # 7 |
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| Is it just me or is it getting ridiculous that a world with only one mention in the canon (and on a map which states it has a population smaller than most serious real world nations - between that of Michigan and Rhode Island in population size for you Americans) pretty much dominates the whole Imperial state?
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Tuesday, 28 Feb 2012, 3:33 PM | Message # 8 |
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| For the record, I personally agree. It isn't news that I agree, though. I've made similar noises before. But even if I do agree there are more Deralians in the Imperial ranks than there should be—and that Deralia has more influence generally than it's indicated to have in the canon—I wouldn't necessarily call it "dominating the Imperial state." For the record, I did give Jaron a hard time about it (as I gently have before) and I think he probably agrees this is "the last one," if you will.
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Furthermore, a dancing Wookiee:
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| OrionKarath | Date: Tuesday, 28 Feb 2012, 3:50 PM | Message # 9 |
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| Let us not forget, the population you bring up Jamie, is thirty-five years from now in the canon, and it's mention is four-thousand years in the past, leaving a long time for it to develop and grow and become vastly different from its state then. But then again, I've said this, repeatedly, every time you've brought the same argument to the table. And I will do so the next time you bring the same, exact argument to the table. I understand, and am all for, constructive criticism; but when you endlessly stand opposed to something, OOC and IC, and utterly ignore any and all counters, past and present, to your arguement... your arguement loses validity when you repeat it several times in the same fashion. I also find it hardly appropriate nor factual to say Deralia is "dominating the Imperial state" when in fact there are, let's count them, eight Empire related Deralian characters, one of which is their Senator, another of which is the planetary Governor, another is an Inquisitor, one is part of the Admiralty, another is a low-grade General, then there's an Imperial Academy instructor, followed by a Star Destroyer Catain, and finally the Grand Moff. Eight "major" individuals, in an galaxy-spanning government made of trillions of individuals. How is this "dominating the Imperial state"? If eight people dominate the Galactic Empire, then the Scottish National Party dominates the UK Parliament.
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| OrionKarath | Date: Tuesday, 28 Feb 2012, 3:51 PM | Message # 10 |
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| And Havoc, I'll take you anytime. Bring it, brah!
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Tuesday, 28 Feb 2012, 3:56 PM | Message # 11 |
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| Akku, thanks for pimping Cole. Everyone knows he's a badass. 
Havor, Orion, you both stop comparing dicks. I pee further and please women far more than both of you. As such, I can take you both outside and beat you with my awesome infantry hands.
Jamie... Jace... yea... nothing for you guys.
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| Jamie_the_Hutt | Date: Tuesday, 28 Feb 2012, 3:58 PM | Message # 12 |
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| As a proportion of characters Deralians make up a high percentage of the Imperial State - thus dominating it in real terms. As for the "it's 35 years in the future argument" I think it can easily be thrown out. I am sure there are many worlds only mentioned in YV era sources which are mentioned to the extent Deralia is, that doesn't mean we should endorse them being huge in the past. Especially when your figures for Deralian population are 50,000% higher than the later figure - some population change is appropriate but you do get to an absurd number at a point..
Just think it's patently bad logic to throw out a source all together (in having 500x the population of the map you do so) just because it's from a couple of decades later (especially when there just aren't any more sources out there on a world) - by the same logic you could portray Dantooine as a massive ecumenopolis 35 years after the YV war (after all nothing says it wasn't). Surely you see this point? - That all sources on worlds discuss specific periods and you can't dismiss them as being relevant on this basis.
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| Havoc | Date: Tuesday, 28 Feb 2012, 3:58 PM | Message # 13 |
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| 11 bang bangs are good for one thing!
And pleasing women are not one of them!
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| Jamie_the_Hutt | Date: Tuesday, 28 Feb 2012, 4:00 PM | Message # 14 |
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| And to be honest, even if there were only 8 such hugely senior Deralians it would be disproportionate in a galaxy of many trillions.
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| OrionKarath | Date: Tuesday, 28 Feb 2012, 4:17 PM | Message # 15 |
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| Aside from perhaps a few vagrants, Vjun does not have any population, or government, since 29 BBY. Should we wipe Bernard Oriel, and Vjun, from the RP? Because, canon shows no indication of a government or population, so Bernard Oriel can't be Senator and there can't be people on Vjun governed by anything. What about that "bad logic", which goes beyond a simple map that isn't even in the same timeframe of the RP, and is a set-up that spans several years, several works of canon by several different individuals, in several different mediums, all with the same resounding outlook and view of Vjun?
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