An Inquiry to Senator Star
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Sate_Pestage | Date: Monday, 13 Dec 2010, 0:26 AM | Message # 1 |
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| Senator Star, you have indicated to me that Volus has had logistical difficulties in complying with the Capital Vessels Act's required modifications to your world's Avenger-class battle ship. As, indeed, I explained to the Senate on a prior occasion. On that occasion, you will recall that I invited you to explain the nature of these logistical difficulties, but it seems that you declined. The deadline for compliance having now passed as of this week, will you, Senator, please explain what exactly is delaying the required modifications from being carried out? Surely you would agree that the Empire has been most accommodating to Volus on this issue, but to continue doing so I should think an explanation is in order including, also, a specific date on which you anticipate the modifications will be complete. Mind you, I have been told that the modifications themselves are quite simple and, with adequate resources, should take no longer than 1 to 2 weeks to complete. If your estimated date of completion is any longer than this, I have assurances from your sector Moff that his personnel are quite willing to assist you and, if necessary, to assume all responsibility for the task. There is no reason that Volus must struggle, as it apparently is, to complete this rather simple task without any assistance.
Sate Pestage Grand Vizier of the Empire Assistant to Emperor Palpatine Chair of the Imperial Senate
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Crin_Star | Date: Monday, 13 Dec 2010, 5:30 AM | Message # 2 |
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| Crin would rise up looking at the Grand Vizier. "As you say Grand Vizier the actual modifications to the ship would not take a lot of time to finish, however our problems are not with the actual modifications but rather with the set up to get them done. Our ship yards, which were used to build the ship have been extensively down-graded for cost reasons since the end of the clone wars. As such, the ship which is more than 1600 meters long has effectively no berth into which it can be placed over Volus. The delay's we are experiencing are because we are modifying the space station to be able to once again house the ship for the needed modifications as required by the law. And since the hyperdrive will have to be removed, the ship will have to be modified in system. Essentially, we are currently 80% complete with the modifications required to our space station and are working as quickly as possible on the modifications. It was able to hold a ship of a maximum length of 600 meters so it wasn't big enough to house the ship in question. We expect a down time of three to four weeks of modification because other systems will be modified than just those specified by the capital vessels act. I will be submitting a list of all the modifications and our current work rosters to the chair to show our willingness to comply with the law and the progress we are making." A file would be sent to the chair detailing a list of modifications to be made to the ship, including a lot of technical computer parts. They were planning to replace much of the outdated hardware with newer models and as well adding replacement armament allowed by the capital vessels act. What was also given was work hours showing that teams of engineers were working hard to get the station modified in order for it to be able to modify the ship. It was more than a clear intent to follow the law.
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Senator_Ordan | Date: Monday, 13 Dec 2010, 11:19 AM | Message # 3 |
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| If I may suggest, as a former dockmaster for the Imperial Navy, that a "berth" is unnecessary, this ship does not require encasement in an orbital drydock to be reconfigured. In order to be in compliance with the capital ships act, the modifications are very minimal. So far as I am aware it is just a matter of removing turrets, landing craft and bases from the vessels in question, with a possible removal of a hyperdrive (which is not compulsory). Why Volus is incapable of performing this speedily is beyond me, this is a simple refit that even a shipyard crewed by aliens would be able to complete in inside 7 standard days. I'd like to ask Senator Star, why is a drydock birth required? Why can't crews simply work on the ship, as is? Volus was the only world opposing many articles of the Capital Ships Act, and was defeated by a supermajority, then saw its support slip to 10%.. Surely, Senators, it seems awfully coincidental that Volus is amongst the worlds which has not complied with this act? Especially when it does so for the most transparently fallacious reasons I have ever heard! These modifications are simple, and do not require a full encasement of such a ship in such a dock.
Senator Hubert Ordan __________________________
Senator of the Azure Sector Foreign Minister of Anaxes Captain-General of the Azure Interest Protection Squadron Deputy Chairman of the Ethics Committee Worshipful Master of the Most Loyal and Honourable Company of Blockadeers Archtreasurer of the Vault of Pols Anaxes Autocrat of Selgon Owner of Azure Durasteel Systems Admiral (Ret) Order of the Canted Circle
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Crin_Star | Date: Monday, 13 Dec 2010, 11:29 AM | Message # 4 |
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| "Your credentials not withstanding, Senator Ordan, as you clearly have no idea how a ship is modified in any responsible manner and the removal of a hyperdrive IS required by this law since our ship contains a class 1.0 hyperdrive and according to the law we would have to have no better than a class 15 hyperdrive installed, as such the removal of the hyperdrive is necessary to be in compliance with the law. And senator Ordan, I would ask what is the point of bringing up the vote on the act? Except to waste the Senate's time in petty attacks against myself and Volus. In the future I would ask that the Senator remember we are busy people and should keep his personal attacks to himself."
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Bernard_Oriel | Date: Monday, 13 Dec 2010, 11:39 AM | Message # 5 |
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| Senator Star, Having written the Capital Ships Act, I would be interested to see where it is "required" that the hyperdrive be removed from your vessel. While it would be desirable to see large warships immobile, and as such automatically classed as defensive. Further provisions require minor modifications such as the removal of large forces of ground troops and equipment, but these are hardly "refits". Removing the guns in question then welding the main hangar shut would suffice.
Bernard Oriel Senator for the Planet of Vjun 1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation) Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
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Crin_Star | Date: Monday, 13 Dec 2010, 1:41 PM | Message # 6 |
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| "Of course Senator Oriel, since I do enjoy educating you." she added with a bit of sarcasm but would continue on. "In order to be classified as a defensive ship a vessel over 100 meters must either remove or downgrade its engines to a class 15 or above. Essentially, we will be removing the hyperdrive from the ship and replacing it with one which meets the requirements of the law. Which as senator Ordan, WOULD know if he did in fact work in docks, would require the ship to have a berth in order to be responsibly modified as per the law. Now as this was a question from the chair and neither of you ever have anything good to say, I move that the chair end debate on a question to myself and the people of Volus. This is after all not a measure to be voted nor really debated."
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Bernard_Oriel | Date: Monday, 13 Dec 2010, 6:00 PM | Message # 7 |
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| Please quote where in the Capital Ships Act it says this... Senator Star, it says a ship will automatically be defensive if the hyperdrive is removed.. However, that is never stated to be the only way.
Bernard Oriel Senator for the Planet of Vjun 1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation) Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
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Crin_Star | Date: Monday, 13 Dec 2010, 6:10 PM | Message # 8 |
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| "Senator oriel, as i stated, none of this concerns you or Vjun. This is a matter between volus and the ruling council and I would ask the chair to kindly remind the senator that it is not his place as Senator to try and do the job of the ruling council. And yes its one of many changes that will be made, none of which you will be privy to because its none of your business. We will be in full compliance with the measure shortly, until then I suggest you leave this questioning to the chair."
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Bernard_Oriel | Date: Monday, 13 Dec 2010, 6:18 PM | Message # 9 |
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| Senator Star, it is most certainly the business of the Senate if a world is not complying with its laws for reasons that are in the words of Senator Ordan "fallacious". A docking berth is not needed, and it seems obvious that Volus is wasting time, either intentionally or unintentionally.. which is certainly awfully convenient after its opposition to the act. The Chair speaks as the head of this senate, and the will of this senate is that this law be enforced. I would like to thank him for his work in ensuring this enforcement, and hope he will bear in mind the words of Senator Ordan and myself when making this enforcement.
Bernard Oriel Senator for the Planet of Vjun 1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation) Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
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Sate_Pestage | Date: Monday, 13 Dec 2010, 6:57 PM | Message # 10 |
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| It does strike me that if the author of the legislation insists that it does not, in fact, require the removal of the vessel's hyperdrive, then there is good reason to believe that this is, indeed, the case. What's more, my personal reading of the regulation seems consistent with Senator Oriel's explanation of it. However, I don't believe that Senator Star is being "fallacious" on this issue. Rather, I'm willing to believe that the Senator is simply confused. If there is confusion, though, it seems appropriate that Senator Oriel, the author of the regulation, should be the one to clarify the issue for us and, as such, he does seem to have a place in this conversation. However, I expect this conversation to remain respectful. This is not the place for internecine conflicts, Senators. Senator Star, I do appreciate your answer and the information that you have provided. However, I notice that these files do not seem to include the estimated date of completion that I requested. I admit that I'm not qualified to say, considering the resources that Volus has, how long these modifications should take to complete. However, what I do know is the estimate of Moff Assange of your sector, who reports to me that his people would be able to complete the task in 6 standard days with infrastructure that is entirely prefabricated. When I refer to "the task," of course I do not refer to all of the modifications that you have included in these files. I would remind you that some of these—new components and hardware, etc.—are not necessary for compliance, and while Volus is, of course, welcome to pursue these additional modifications, they should not delay the required modifications to the vessel's armament. Not including these additional modifications, then, what is your estimate for completion?
Sate Pestage Grand Vizier of the Empire Assistant to Emperor Palpatine Chair of the Imperial Senate
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Crin_Star | Date: Monday, 13 Dec 2010, 7:02 PM | Message # 11 |
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| "According to our engineers they should be completed with the necessary berth within the next few days and as soon as it is in its berth the modifications will begin, of course the compliance will be first and should be completed within 8 days. The rest of the modifications will take longer as I specified earlier we are predicting a down time of 3-4 weeks. We have already begun to transfer crew off the ship to provide either security on the station or will be given a relatively brief LOA for the time of construction."
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