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Petition for Permission
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| Bernard_Oriel | Date: Thursday, 30 Dec 2010, 10:35 AM | Message # 1 |
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| Greetings, The Parliament of Vjun has approved a spending plan in response to the raid against its civilian deep space sensor array, this senseless attack resulted in several deaths and the destruction of much valuable equipment. The Vjun Science Commission has made every effort to befriend the government of Volus in order to secure protection for the station, however, despite massive efforts and overtures, including the donation of gifts to the Government of Volus, they have refused to extend a friendly hand to this group of caring, hardworking scientists and have ignored all their overtures of friendship. Being that Volus is evidently unprepared to extend any help to our scientists with due speed, care and attention, we would like to petition the Imperial Senate for permission to purchase one of the older Golan I stations from the Imperial Surplus, and deploy it within deep space (and thus the domain of the Imperial Central Authority) close to our platform to assure their wellbeing. We have funds for this purchase ready for deployment. Vjun must protect its citizens, as evidently the local system is unable or unwilling to extend such friendly ties until apparently extreme circumstances arise, we feel it necessary to guard our investment in the coming months with a suitable defensive facility to prevent any raids as evidently simpler defenses are not sufficient in the "dangerous" space around Volus.
Bernard Oriel
Senator for the Planet of Vjun
1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation)
Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
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| Titus_Veritas | Date: Thursday, 30 Dec 2010, 10:55 AM | Message # 2 |
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| The attack is unfortunate, Senator Oriel, and my thoughts go out to Vjun and the families who have experienced losses. If Deralia can help in any way, please feel free to let me know. As for the pruchase and deployment of a Golan platform, I, and the Defense Committee, approve of this action due to the emergency nature and apparent threat currently experienced by the civilians in question. I must say that I am uncomfortable with such military operations being conducted in deep space, but it is sadly necesarry due to the apparent disarray of the Volus defense forces. I would like to require, however, that while this Golan platform is in deep space, an political officer from the Empire be present aboard the station, with the right to override and counter any and all operations and orders. Is this agreeable Senator Oriel?
Viceroy Titus Veritas, House Veritas
Consul of the House of Lords
Former Senator of Deralia and the Tammuz Sector (50 BBY - 30 BBY, 18 BBY - 10 BBY)
Former Chairman of the Imperial Senate Defense Committee (18 BBY - 10 BBY)
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| Bernard_Oriel | Date: Thursday, 30 Dec 2010, 11:49 AM | Message # 3 |
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| Naturally the Sector Moff has the right to place any political officers he chooses under the legislation currently existing to govern them. Added (30 Dec 2010, 12:49 PM)
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We would like to add that it appears Volus has sent a measure of aid, however, not quickly enough to counter the threats or effect a realistic pursuit. Vjun extends its thanks to Volus for its help in the cleanup operation. That said, the aid took so long to respond that had the raiders been more determined or intent on the destruction of the station they could have caused massively more damage before retreating. For this reason, our petition to construct a greater measure of static defence still stands.
Bernard Oriel
Senator for the Planet of Vjun
1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation)
Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
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| Crin_Star | Date: Thursday, 30 Dec 2010, 7:54 PM | Message # 4 |
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| Volus shares in your sense of loss and and echoes the sentiments spoken by so many. However, I would make it clear to both the Senator from Vjun and the Senator from Deralia, who as defense chairmen should know this, that the Volusian forces replied in a rapid and orderly fashion, arriving only about 10 minutes after the distress call had been received. I would ask the senators to consider this point before simply saying the Volusian response was not appropriate or making false aspirations on our levels of readiness.
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| Titus_Veritas | Date: Thursday, 30 Dec 2010, 9:14 PM | Message # 5 |
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| Very well, I formally remove my political officer stipulation and stand by approval of this request of the Imperial government. Senator Star, I withdraw my remark on Volus' response... for now; I will look into the matter in the coming days however.
Viceroy Titus Veritas, House Veritas
Consul of the House of Lords
Former Senator of Deralia and the Tammuz Sector (50 BBY - 30 BBY, 18 BBY - 10 BBY)
Former Chairman of the Imperial Senate Defense Committee (18 BBY - 10 BBY)
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| Crin_Star | Date: Thursday, 30 Dec 2010, 9:19 PM | Message # 6 |
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| Of course, Senator Veritas, I will be forwarding the logs from the volus side to your office to help aide you in your investigation."
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| Robert_North | Date: Thursday, 30 Dec 2010, 9:42 PM | Message # 7 |
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| While perhaps a small break in procedure for such requests, I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't pose this question, Senator Oriel. You're opening comment was "The Parliament of Volus has approved a spending plan in response to the raid against its civilian deep space sensor array, this senseless attack resulted in several deaths and the destruction of much valuable equipment,". Might I ask why Volus is financing the acquisition of this Golan Space Defense SpaceGun? A kind gesture by Volus to be sure if this is the case, especially considering Senator Star's adversarial stance towards you and your world, but I am just seeking clarification on this matter.
The Honorable R.C.W. North
Senator of Imperial Center
Chairman of the Internal Activities Committee Mayor of the Galactic/Imperial City (22 BBY-18 BBY)
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| Crin_Star | Date: Thursday, 30 Dec 2010, 9:55 PM | Message # 8 |
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| "You know Senator North, I believe the Senator just misspoke. Perhaps we should let Senator Cerra have the floor on this momentous occasion."
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| Janar_Cerra | Date: Thursday, 30 Dec 2010, 10:12 PM | Message # 9 |
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| Unlike others within these chambers, I do not like to point out when others misspeak. I at least have enough respect for all of you to over look small mistakes when speaking. Though on this occasion, I may make an exception. Senator Oriel, perhaps it is time that you start to look long and hard into your own being before you begin to pick fights with others. We are all human after all and we all make mistakes and misspeak once in awhile.
Ja'nar Cerra
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| Senator_Cambrist | Date: Thursday, 30 Dec 2010, 10:34 PM | Message # 10 |
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| I do not. However, I do recognize that not all Senators are graduates of the Brentaal School of Elocution, as I am. Nor should I expect them to be.
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| Bernard_Oriel | Date: Friday, 31 Dec 2010, 5:23 AM | Message # 11 |
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| I apologise for the minor typists error. An attempted correction was made yesterday but appears not to have been registered correctly with the senate data pad system. The Scribe responsible has been appropriately flogged. That as it may be, I feel we should move forward with the debate on this issue, if there be any. Volus stands to profit from the emplacement of this platform, it will not only help in the defence of our platform but will be able to act as an extra bulwark for Volus should it need it. Volus should know this is in no way an assault on it or its sovereignty, its simply a measure to help secure a region close to its border from piracy. I personally am happy to do such an act for our neighbour.
Bernard Oriel
Senator for the Planet of Vjun
1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation)
Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
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| LomenRyuun | Date: Friday, 31 Dec 2010, 9:08 AM | Message # 12 |
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| Senator Oriel, I am not expert on defensive emplacements, to be sure, but I have done some research lately. I too feel uncomfortable with a fully armed and operational Golan I platform in deep space operations. It is my belief that it is overkill and completely unnecessary. True, Vjun left a valuable research station under-defended. These gun emplacements are hardly a determined defense destined to last for more than a few minutes. A cheaper and more effective alternative would be a quartet of the large gun emplacements or the large gun/warhead emplacement. It strikes me that these would be much better than a full battlestation.
Lomen Ryuun
Senator, Doldur Sector
Senator, Druckenwell
Representative, Monor II (10 BBY - 9 BBY)
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Representative, Therenor Prime
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Controlling Shareholder - Druckenwell Arms Corporation
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| Senator_Ordan | Date: Friday, 31 Dec 2010, 1:48 PM | Message # 13 |
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| With all due respect Senator Ryuun, it is Vjun's choice if it wishes to stimulate the Imperial Economy with the purchase of some of the Emperor's hardware.. Frankly, while it may be overkill, if Vjun feels its citizens are threatened then it should defend them, and it is far better that they be better defended than worse. Also, Vjun has said it would be happy to allow a political officer to be aboard. Thus I see no issue with this, better have men over protected than under protected, and it is not as if a Golan Station can be used as a warship, so there is no threat to Volus from its presence, which indeed also serves to benefit Volus by adding a strong bulwark on its border to the galaxy which it has referred to as "dangerous". Thus I vote in favour of this, the gun and warhead emplacements are all very well, however, it seems to me that the best choice is the most comprehensive one, and there are few ships which would be able to threaten this Golan Stations defence of the Vjunite Array.
Senator Hubert Ordan
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| Titus_Veritas | Date: Tuesday, 04 Jan 2011, 10:03 PM | Message # 14 |
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| Should Senator Oriel not be considering the proposed alternative made by Senator Ryuun, I would like to request that the Chair give the Throne's approval or denial of this petition.
Viceroy Titus Veritas, House Veritas
Consul of the House of Lords
Former Senator of Deralia and the Tammuz Sector (50 BBY - 30 BBY, 18 BBY - 10 BBY)
Former Chairman of the Imperial Senate Defense Committee (18 BBY - 10 BBY)
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| Bernard_Oriel | Date: Monday, 10 Jan 2011, 10:30 PM | Message # 15 |
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| Naturally I reject the notion which Senator Ryuun floated. His suggestion would, as Senator Ordan points out, not defend us adequately. As there appears to be no actual votes against this motion, I would like to request the closure of this vote as we are currently using Sector ships which we would wish be allowed to return to their duties.
Bernard Oriel
Senator for the Planet of Vjun
1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation)
Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
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