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Select Committee on the Caamas Incident
Titus_VeritasDate: Sunday, 09 Jan 2011, 8:01 PM | Message # 16
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By no means was I, Grad Vizier, considering voting in favor of this deplorable effort to rub salt into the wounds of the Caamasi people. I hope I didn't seem to appear that way, and would hope that assumption would not be made concerning myself. I was asking merely in regards to a matter of procedure. I feel that this is a misguided effort, and would expect more from Senator Vanden. I vote Against this proposal, but also urge Senator Vanden to withdraw this measure from the floor, out of respect and in honor of both the deceased from this event and its survivors, who are still struggling to find their place in the Galaxy. The matter has been settled, and if you want to punish those responsible, then we must find the last remnants of the Separatists and put them to death for their countless atrocities, such as Caamas, and even Ryloth and the attempted gaiacide of your own world. Stirring up the past that is best left in the past, is not needed; giving the survivors justice, is.

Viceroy Titus Veritas, House Veritas
Consul of the House of Lords

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Former Chairman of the Imperial Senate Defense Committee (18 BBY - 10 BBY)
 
Artemis_VandenDate: Sunday, 09 Jan 2011, 11:44 PM | Message # 17
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I have said before and I do believe that justice, Senator Veritas, would be finding out who was responsible for the destruction of Caamas, and bringing them, indeed, to justice. I have also said that if the Separatists are responsible for the destruction of Caamas, as the Imperial findings have said, further investigation is necessary to determine which Separatists are responsible. Who is the Separatist who fired the actinium bombs? If this Separatist is still alive, as he, she, or it may be, where is he, she, or it? As you said but a moment ago, Senator Veritas, "we must find the last remnants of the Separatists and put them to death for their countless atrocities, such as Caamas." That is exactly why more investigation is needed.

Many of you have said that there should be no further investigation because it would "disrespect" or "dishonor" the dead. I believe that you are mistaken, gentlemen, but I respect the opinion that you have. However, one Senator has now said that there should be no further investigation because it is too expensive. I have no respect for this whatsoever. Considering that the cost of a select committee is only that of a few computers and staff members, it is spectacularly cruel and cold-hearted of this Senator to value economy over humanity. An Imperial world is in ruin, billions of innocent people are dead and hundreds more displaced, and this Senator is unwilling to spend a minuscule percent of what is spent on, say, Star Destroyers to find out what happened to this world and these people? The few survivors must wander this galaxy without knowing what truly happened to their son, or daughter, or father, or mother because this Senator does not consider the agony, the anguish of these people, who have been through so much, to be worth the cost of the lights and heating of a committee room for only 2 or 3 days of a week, and for only 2 or 3 weeks of a year? This Senator will, with a smile on his face, spend 10 trillion credits on weapons of war but will not spend a mere 10 thousand to ascertain the consequences of those weapons? The consequences, I might add, not in facts and figures but in lives, in families, in blood of innocent beings.

The fate of Caamas cannot be measured in credits. The amount of dust and debris in the air that were once people like you and I, and now cling to your clothes, to your hair, to your pores and nostrils, cannot be valued in money. How does this Senator propose to measure the price of things that could have been, but never will? Of children that could have been born, but never will? What wonders might they have built? What masterpieces might they have painted? What cures might they have found? I want to know if this Senator really believes that none of this is worth the cost of one damn committee—of a desk and some chairs and computers. If his answer is no, I believe there is something deeply, profoundly defective in his character and his compassion, if indeed he has either. And this defect must weigh upon the consideration, if not the conscience, of those who sent him here to represent them. I refuse to believe that the people of Commenor are as cold and callous as their Senator, and I will go there if I must to personally solicit their support for this committee. I will spread this message from Chasin City to the Munto valley if I have to, and see if this Senator really represents the will of his people on this matter.


Artemis Vanden
Representative of the Naboo


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Tremaine_FowlkesDate: Saturday, 22 Jan 2011, 5:02 PM | Message # 18
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Senator Vanden is right. This should be put into investigation, and a subcommittee should be established. We need to determine whether this was a Separatist attack. Once we find out who is responsible, then we could bring them to the trial and charge them for their war crimes. I vote in favor of Senator Vanden's amendment.

Tremaine Fowlkes
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RonsardEntrenteDate: Sunday, 23 Jan 2011, 9:57 PM | Message # 19
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After further consideration of Representative Vanden's arguments, Commenor rescinds its previous vote and votes for a subcommittee to be formed. If the Separatists responsible for this crime against humanity have not already been brought to swift Imperial justice, then we must charge the sub-committee to bring these genocidists into senatorial scrutiny. My previous vote was cast under the assumption that the perpetrators had already been apprehended by Imperial agents.

Ronsard Entrente

Senator of Commenor
Ranking Member, Commerce Committee

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Artemis_VandenDate: Monday, 24 Jan 2011, 5:46 PM | Message # 20
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Thank you, Senator Entrente, and for the record I apologize for some of the more strident rhetoric that I directed at you. It appears that I made these remarks in too much haste, and I did not allow for the possibility that there had been a simple misunderstanding. I'm pleased, now, that we seem to agree on this issue more than we disagree after all.

Artemis Vanden
Representative of the Naboo
 
Robert_NorthDate: Monday, 24 Jan 2011, 8:18 PM | Message # 21
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Yes, Senator Vanden, damn anyone that disagrees with you and smear their name by any means possible, but as soon as they change their vote in favor, you're their friend suddenly. It's this two-faced, insincere, backstabbing repeatative and constant terminological inexactitude.which plagued and mired the Republic Senate; I'd of sworn we were done of it nine years ago. All I see from this is that you do not trust the Emperor, and are attempting to be subversive to the point of dissent... and any vote in support of this measure is as well. I don't know about Representative Vanden, nor Senators Domon, Riada, Cerra, Thanatos, or Entrente. well I do know about Representative Vanden and Senator Cerra, but I am not a traitor to the Empire. It seems my Committee will have some investigations to begin in the coming days. Coruscant votes Against this measure.

The Honorable R.C.W. North
Senator of Imperial Center
Chairman of the Internal Activities Committee

Mayor of the Galactic/Imperial City (22 BBY-18 BBY)

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Artemis_VandenDate: Monday, 24 Jan 2011, 9:04 PM | Message # 22
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This is not about who is or is not my friend. This is about who is a friend to the few remaining Caamasi people. This is all you will find when you've finished your investigation of me—an investigation that, unlike the select committee that I propose, truly is a waste of time and money. To return to the point, as for who is or isn't a friend of the Caamasi people, it is clear that you certainly are not, Senator North. But even so, I see no reason why you are averse to finding out who left an Imperial world in ruins; a world, I might add, not far from Imperial Center. You did mean to say 'Imperial Center' and not 'Coruscant,' didn't you, Senator? Terminological inexactitude, I'm sure. But if not, I daresay you must investigate your own loyalties at once!

Artemis Vanden
Representative of the Naboo
 
Robert_NorthDate: Monday, 24 Jan 2011, 10:22 PM | Message # 23
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Indeed, Representative, I did mean Imperial Center. It appears in a moment of passion and emotion, I suffered a slip of the tongue. I apologize to the Chair for my unacceptable behavior.

The Honorable R.C.W. North
Senator of Imperial Center
Chairman of the Internal Activities Committee

Mayor of the Galactic/Imperial City (22 BBY-18 BBY)

 
Ilanah_ThanatosDate: Thursday, 24 Feb 2011, 6:44 PM | Message # 24
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Senator Vanden, I have been reconsidering my stance on your proposal to form a committee to re-investigate the incident at Caamas. It pains me to see that those who died in this tragedy will be dragged into the spotlight again. The deceased deserve to be respected and left alone to rest in peace. Therefore, Chandrila rescinds its favorable vote for the formation of the committee, and votes against this measure.

Ilanah R. Thanatos
Senator of Chandrila
 
Sate_PestageDate: Thursday, 24 Feb 2011, 8:12 PM | Message # 25
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Thank you Senator Thanatos, and the other Senators who have opposed this measure, for voting according to your conscience. The vote is closed, and the measure is defeated with 46% in favor and 53% opposed. I'm sure the survivors of Caamas will be grateful that politicians are not revisiting, once again, this tragic chapter in their history simply to indulge in conspiracist fantasies. May the dead rest in peace.

Sate Pestage
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