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Select Committee on the Caamas Incident
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| Artemis_Vanden | Date: Monday, 03 Jan 2011, 8:06 PM | Message # 1 |
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| Senators, I propose a select committee be formed to investigate the "Caamas Incident"—that is, the bombardment, 9 years ago, of the planet Caamas. We are familiar, of course, with the official findings of the Empire that a stray cluster of Separatist actinium bombs were responsible for this incident, but astrophysicists from the University of Aldera, among other institutions, have called this finding into question. We also know that the many Imperial oversight committees, commissions, and agencies have declined to investigate the matter further. But Senators, I would suggest to you that the total destruction of Caamas—one of His Majesty's worlds—and the near total destruction of the Caamasi people, is a tragedy that must be investigated to its fullest extent. If, indeed, Separatists were responsible for the incident, we must know who of them was. If Separatists were not responsible, still, we must know who was. With the Senate's permission, I would like to chair this select committee, should it be approved.
Artemis Vanden
Representative of the Naboo
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| Crin_Star | Date: Monday, 03 Jan 2011, 8:21 PM | Message # 2 |
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| "I look forward to hearing this committee's report on the incident. As such I enthusiastically vote in favor of the formation of this committee
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| Sate_Pestage | Date: Monday, 03 Jan 2011, 9:05 PM | Message # 3 |
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| It is the opinion of the chair that the facts surrounding the Caamas Incident have been sufficiently established, and that there is no need to once again revisit the horrors of the Clone Wars. The Empire brought those horrors to an end, but not soon enough for Caamas, which, as the Representative mentioned, fell victim to a cluster of Separatist missiles from another battle. All of the evidence suggests this, and the astrophysicists the Representative refers to are mistaken, or worse. It is unfortunate that such individuals, seeking perhaps to make a name for themselves, would be willing to disrespect the dead with sensational, contrarian claims. The official account of the Caamas Incident—that of the stray Separatist missiles—is conclusive. Considering the scale of the Clone Wars, it is fortunate that stray missiles, bombs, and lasers have not befallen more worlds. But there is no doubt in my mind that the Separatists were responsible for destruction of Caamas, as they were responsible for the destruction of Honoghr, Humbarine, and many others. Under the circumstances, however, the chair urges Senators to oppose this unnecessary investigation, and unnecessary use of Imperial time and funds.
Sate Pestage
Grand Vizier of the Empire
Assistant to Emperor Palpatine
Chair of the Imperial Senate
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| Senator_Cambrist | Date: Tuesday, 04 Jan 2011, 7:35 PM | Message # 4 |
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| Brentaal, dutifully, votes against this measure. Dutiful, that is, to the dead as well as to the wishes of the chair. Truly, Representative, this proposal is in poor taste.
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| Johannes_Oswaldt | Date: Wednesday, 05 Jan 2011, 12:28 PM | Message # 5 |
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| Against. I'm tired of these conspiracy theorists who say Caamas was an "inside job." A bunch of loser pacifists with a persecution complex looking for enemies and having some orgasm of the imagination all over the memory of the people who died. It is disrespectful. Its disrespectful to the dead and its disrespectful to the Empire. So I have no respect for these lunatics and conspiracy theorists who make other peoples death their "hobby". These people shoudnt be represented in the Senate, Vanden. Shame, shame, shame for proposing this. So no one's investigating this, well guess what? Thats because we know the answer already.. We know what happened. Ground control to Vanden, the truth isnt "out there", its right here. Yes planets were destroyed in the Clone wars. It was an ugly time. BUt the separatists did it and thats that.
Johannes Oswaldt
Senator and Governor of Eriadu
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| Artemis_Vanden | Date: Wednesday, 05 Jan 2011, 10:41 PM | Message # 6 |
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| Governor Oswaldt, you're making an assumption that I did not make—that the Empire was somehow responsible for the destruction of Caamas. To be clear, I did not make that assumption or say anything of the sort. A careful reading of my words will demonstrate this. What I did say is that an Imperial world is now in ruin and that it is incumbent upon us to demonstrate, beyond any doubt, what happened to it and who is responsible. I am willing to believe that the Separatists are responsible, but it should be noted that the Caamas incident occurred after the Clone Wars ended. And while I am compelled to admit that some astrophysicists may be "mistaken, or worse," as the chair phrased it, I must also note that astrophysicists can be mistaken but astrophysics cannot. And the astrophysics of this situation suggest to me, Senators, that the destruction of Caamas simply isn't consistent with a flight of stray Separatist bombs coming from one direction (having improbably traversed nebulae, comets, solar disturbances, and many other celestial hazards to reach the planet in the first place). If the facts of the situation are in dispute—and until there is a comprehensive, independent investigation, we cannot be sure that they aren't—I see nothing disrespectful to the dead in finding out who was responsible for their deaths and bringing the perpetrator, or perpetrators, to justice.
Artemis Vanden
Representative of the Naboo
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| Crin_Star | Date: Thursday, 06 Jan 2011, 6:42 AM | Message # 7 |
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| I'm sorry representative Vanden, but with the facts set by the Empire in this matter I will have to change my vote to against.
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| LomenRyuun | Date: Thursday, 06 Jan 2011, 8:49 AM | Message # 8 |
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| I don't feel this is worth investigating any further. The deed is done and the blame laid. I am against.
Lomen Ryuun
Senator, Doldur Sector
Senator, Druckenwell
Representative, Monor II (10 BBY - 9 BBY)
Representative, Geridard
Representative, Boranall
Representative, Therenor Prime
Vice-chairman, Defense Committee (Temporarily suspended)
Controlling Shareholder - Druckenwell Arms Corporation
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| Toben-Domon | Date: Thursday, 06 Jan 2011, 8:50 AM | Message # 9 |
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| Senators, Senators, let us not be so hasty to write this off. Representative Vanden has a valid point. If, by some chance, it was not a Separatist weapon or indeed, even a Separatist weapon utilized by another party, they must be brought to justice. Sluis Van is in favor.
Toben Domon
Senator, Sluis Van
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| Fabio | Date: Friday, 07 Jan 2011, 7:46 AM | Message # 10 |
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| Justice should be served. In favor.
Fabio Riada. King of Anobis.
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| Titus_Veritas | Date: Friday, 07 Jan 2011, 8:05 PM | Message # 11 |
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| A quick and simple question to the Chair. Has the conclusion regarding the events on Caamas been covered by Imperial decree?
Viceroy Titus Veritas, House Veritas
Consul of the House of Lords
Former Senator of Deralia and the Tammuz Sector (50 BBY - 30 BBY, 18 BBY - 10 BBY)
Former Chairman of the Imperial Senate Defense Committee (18 BBY - 10 BBY)
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| Janar_Cerra | Date: Saturday, 08 Jan 2011, 7:54 AM | Message # 12 |
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| I too must vote in favor of this committee and Representative Vandens appointment to it.
Ja'nar Cerra
Queen of Garos IV
Acting Senator to the Republic, Garos IV
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| Ilanah_Thanatos | Date: Saturday, 08 Jan 2011, 10:17 AM | Message # 13 |
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| I feel that it does not do any harm to re-check the 'facts' as they are and also vote in favor. There is always, of course, the chance that something good could come of this.
Ilanah R. Thanatos
Senator of Chandrila
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| RonsardEntrente | Date: Sunday, 09 Jan 2011, 5:43 PM | Message # 14 |
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| Given the Senate's newfound fiscal discipline under my Balanced Budget act, I would find Representative Vanden's proposal for the formation of a subcommittee to be an unnecessary burden on the Imperial treasury. This issue has obviously been officially resolved and no further funds need to be used for the purposes of more idle investigations. Therfore, Commenor votes against the formation of a subcommittee to investigate the Caamas incident.
Ronsard Entrente Senator of Commenor
Ranking Member, Commerce Committee
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| Sate_Pestage | Date: Sunday, 09 Jan 2011, 7:49 PM | Message # 15 |
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| To answer your question, Senator Veritas, the Caamas incident hasn't been a subject of Imperial decree because I know from discussing the incident with His Majesty that he is satisfied with the findings of the numerous Imperial investigations into it. To make the incident a subject of Imperial decree, he feels, would only dignify the suspicions of the fringe of society that claim some "conspiracy" in the matter. There comes a time when enough, truly, is enough. As far as His Majesty is concerned, the matter is settled, and I know I represent his wishes correctly when I urge Senators once again to honor the dead and vote against this proposal. Let them rest in peace, Senators.
Sate Pestage
Grand Vizier of the Empire
Assistant to Emperor Palpatine
Chair of the Imperial Senate
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