The Protection of Medics in Conflicts (IP) Act
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Bernard_Oriel | Date: Tuesday, 04 Jan 2011, 8:32 AM | Message # 1 |
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| The Protection of Medics in Conflicts (Inter Planetary) Act Essential Statement Medics, Medical Facilities, Medical Transports and Medical Vessels should not be considered legitimate military targets (and so prone to destruction without warning), however, any Medic, Medical Facility, Medical Transport or Medical Vessel which attempts to take or takes any aggressive action against enemy forces will be considered to forfeit protection. All Medic, Medical Facilities, Medical Transports and Medical Vessels should attempt to evacuate or surrender to enemy forces if threatened by the approach of enemy forces. Any retreating Medical Transports or Vessels may be disabled (through the minimum possible use of force) in order to encourage their surrender. Definitions: "Medics" are defined as those who's primary role is medical care. "Medical Facilities" are defined as facilities who's purpose is medical care. "Medical Transports" are defined as transports who's purpose is to move patients from place to place but which are smaller than 100m in length. "Medical Vessels" are defined as Capital Ships (over 100m in length) which have the primary purpose of providing medical care. Articles 1. Medics may not be armed with anything more than defensive weaponry, which they may use in the defence of their own life or the lives of their patients. Medics must wear bright colours and must be clearly identifiable from others in their military. They must not participate in any aggressive action or fire their weapons unless in the defence of their patients or themselves. They may only fire if fired upon (directly) first. 2. Medical Facilities must be marked with luminescent paint in any bright colour with a M. Medical Facilities forfeit all protection if they harbour soldiers or commit any aggressive act. 3. Medical Transports may not be armed with anything but defensive, non-lethal weaponry. Medical Transports must be marked with luminescent paint in any bright colour with a M. If a Medical Transport commits any aggressive action then it is to be considered a legitimate target. 4. Medical Vessels may not carry armed starfighters or assault ships. Medical Vessels must be marked with luminescent paint in any bright colour with a M. They must not participate in any aggressive action or fire their weapons unless in the defence of their passengers or themselves. They may only fire if fired upon (directly) first. Notes All crimes under this act shall be tried by Imperial Courts. The mens rea of "intention" shall be required to convict under this act. Any Medic, Medical Facility, Medical Transport or Medical Vessel seen to be in breach of this act forfeits protection under this act. Captured Medical Personnel (and their patients) should be considered Prisoners of War and protected accordingly.
Bernard Oriel Senator for the Planet of Vjun 1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation) Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
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Crin_Star | Date: Tuesday, 04 Jan 2011, 8:39 AM | Message # 2 |
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| Already discussed and as such in favor
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Ilanah_Thanatos | Date: Tuesday, 04 Jan 2011, 2:01 PM | Message # 3 |
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| Chandrila votes in favor.
Ilanah R. Thanatos Senator of Chandrila
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RonsardEntrente | Date: Tuesday, 04 Jan 2011, 6:06 PM | Message # 4 |
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| Commenor applauds this legislation as a means of protecting our doctors in combat situations from harm. I would recommend the following amendment, however: "Rebels who disguise themselves or their ships under the auspices of medical frigates/personnel shall be summarily executed upon being revealed to their true form."
Ronsard Entrente Senator of Commenor Ranking Member, Commerce Committee
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Senator_Cambrist | Date: Tuesday, 04 Jan 2011, 7:32 PM | Message # 5 |
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| Likewise, Brentaal votes in favor, and is also in support of Senator Entrente's amendment, although personally I would prefer the word "insurgent" or "terrorist" be substituted for "rebel," which can have a sort of endearing connotation to it. This is, of course, but a semantic qualm.
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Senator_Ordan | Date: Wednesday, 05 Jan 2011, 8:13 AM | Message # 6 |
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| I vote in favour of the Entrente amended version.
Senator Hubert Ordan __________________________
Senator of the Azure Sector Foreign Minister of Anaxes Captain-General of the Azure Interest Protection Squadron Deputy Chairman of the Ethics Committee Worshipful Master of the Most Loyal and Honourable Company of Blockadeers Archtreasurer of the Vault of Pols Anaxes Autocrat of Selgon Owner of Azure Durasteel Systems Admiral (Ret) Order of the Canted Circle
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LomenRyuun | Date: Wednesday, 05 Jan 2011, 9:23 AM | Message # 7 |
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| Druckenwell votes against this measure. Medics serving in the military forces are considered combat medics, are they not? They should, by that reason, have military training much akin to that undergone by front-line soldiers. Speaking for Druckenwell, our combat medics are given additional pay incentives such as hazardous duty pay, combat pay and so forth. Every soldier is a warfighter and then their military specialty second. Speaking from a tactical standpoint, every medic disabled or killed or every medical ship treated in the same manner goes further towards winning a conflict than simply fighting among soldiers. One medic is worth how many soldiers? Ten? Fifty? My vote stands.
Lomen Ryuun Senator, Doldur Sector Senator, Druckenwell Representative, Monor II (10 BBY - 9 BBY) Representative, Geridard Representative, Boranall Representative, Therenor Prime Vice-chairman, Defense Committee (Temporarily suspended) Controlling Shareholder - Druckenwell Arms Corporation
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Artemis_Vanden | Date: Wednesday, 05 Jan 2011, 9:52 PM | Message # 8 |
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| I'm afraid I cannot bring myself to vote, as Senator Ryuun so coldly does, for the killing of one man in the hope that 10 or 50 more men will die of grievous wounds as a result. There is nothing so shameful or so embarrassing for our species than the willingness of any of us, even one of us, to take life from those who would give it. I vote in favor of this measure to prohibit such atrocious conduct—atrocious even by the senseless standards of war.
Artemis Vanden Representative of the Naboo
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Sate_Pestage | Date: Wednesday, 05 Jan 2011, 10:11 PM | Message # 9 |
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| Is the Senator from Vjun willing to incorporate the amendment of the Senator from Commenor?
Sate Pestage Grand Vizier of the Empire Assistant to Emperor Palpatine Chair of the Imperial Senate
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Toben-Domon | Date: Thursday, 06 Jan 2011, 8:51 AM | Message # 10 |
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| This seems legitimate. I vote in favor.
Toben Domon Senator, Sluis Van
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Janar_Cerra | Date: Thursday, 06 Jan 2011, 3:31 PM | Message # 11 |
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| Garos IV votes in favor of this motion.
Ja'nar Cerra Queen of Garos IV Acting Senator to the Republic, Garos IV
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Bernard_Oriel | Date: Friday, 07 Jan 2011, 6:34 AM | Message # 12 |
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| Happy to put in Senator Entrente's amendment as a friendly amendment.
Bernard Oriel Senator for the Planet of Vjun 1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation) Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
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Fabio | Date: Friday, 07 Jan 2011, 7:32 AM | Message # 13 |
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| Anobis Approves.
Fabio Riada. King of Anobis.
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Titus_Veritas | Date: Friday, 07 Jan 2011, 8:10 PM | Message # 14 |
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| I feel that the position of Medic can be abused, and heavily. Senator Oriel, as Senator Ryuun has mentioned, a major of soldiers whom are trained as Medics, are in fact Combat Medics, these days; trained to fight and bearing arms, usually embedded into an infantry unit. Concerning this bill, could you clarify if there is a distinction between Combat Medic and Medic?
Viceroy Titus Veritas, House Veritas Consul of the House of Lords
Former Senator of Deralia and the Tammuz Sector (50 BBY - 30 BBY, 18 BBY - 10 BBY) Former Chairman of the Imperial Senate Defense Committee (18 BBY - 10 BBY)
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Bernard_Oriel | Date: Friday, 07 Jan 2011, 8:36 PM | Message # 15 |
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| Well, if a Medic wishes to forfeit the protections provided by this law and chooses to say carry similar arms and wear a similar uniform which does not identify themselves for the purpose of this act then they would be at liberty to do so, however, if they do this they would not be afforded any of this act's protections.
Bernard Oriel Senator for the Planet of Vjun 1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation) Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
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