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| Toben-Domon | Date: Sunday, 28 Aug 2011, 6:55 AM | Message # 16 |
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| Hapans are reputed to build some exquisite vessels. Perhaps once things calm down, I might be able to look one over? If that meets with approval of your personal security, that is.
Toben Domon
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| Slai-Fon | Date: Sunday, 28 Aug 2011, 9:45 AM | Message # 17 |
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| Any information you could really give me, perhaps the planet you are from.
Slai-Fon Youngblood, Senator of Anobis, and the Bright Jewel sector
Chairman of ISEC (Imperial Senate Ethic's Committee.)
Chairman & CEO of K/Y deep.
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| Kso-Dashune | Date: Monday, 29 Aug 2011, 12:44 PM | Message # 18 |
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| I am afraid, Senator Domon, that our technology is one of the few items we have that keep us safe. Perhaps at some time in the future, you may look over them, but for the time being, I think it best to keep them away from prying eyes.
Senator Youngblood, I hail from Gallinore, a planet within the Interior Region of the Hapes Cluster. Gallinore is known for its laboratories, but holds fame across the cluster for its mines of rainbow gems. They are extremely rare outside the Cluster, and it is not unheard of to be able to buy a planet with several. In fact, I might add that members of my family operate a number of the mines.
K'so Da'shune
Presidium of the Independent Hapan Nation
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| Senator_Cambrist | Date: Monday, 29 Aug 2011, 4:26 PM | Message # 19 |
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| Surely if Mr. Da'shune expects to regarded as a friend to the Empire, and not a foe (and trespasser upon its territory, incidentally), he will share with the Empire not only information on his homeworld but detailed information on the entirety of the Hapes Cluster, including its technology. Be aware the independence you seek is quite tenuous at this moment, Sir. It's possible that the Senate can broker an arrangement that will indeed provide for this independence, but it will require your cooperation. The veil of secrecy that has long permitted the regime from which you, Sir, fled to resist the manful governance of the Empire must be lifted, once and for all.
I do not suggest sharing this information in so public a forum, but I don't doubt that representatives of the Empire will be in contact with you on this and it would be to your benefit to be more forthcoming with them than you've been with us. Incidentally, to my fellow Senators, I would remind you all that it is incumbent upon us, surely, to refrain from pursuing diplomatic or commercial relations with this rogue faction until the Empire has had opportunity to consider its policy on the matter and whether, indeed, diplomatic or commercial relations will even be permissible. Indeed, at this hour the Commerce Committee shall issue a temporary injunction against trade with Mr. Da'shune's faction that all Imperial worlds (and businesses) are expected to honor.
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| Verence_Terrawin | Date: Monday, 29 Aug 2011, 5:39 PM | Message # 20 |
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| Unfortunately, I am torn on this issue.
The Hapes Cluster remains inscrutable as ever and refuses any form of diplomatic contact or opening of their border, but I see this as no reason to antagonise them (or indeed allow them to settle our worlds). I must call for these Hapans (who have settled an Imperial World in an Imperial Sector) to be welcomed to this chamber, but not as "Independent" but as "Imperial" they must be given the option to become Imperial Citizens (since they are living on an Imperial World) and if they refuse they must be deported with the minimum possible force.
It is not appropriate to allow one rule for one, one for another. To me (and I believe many other Senators) this looks like an invasion and coup. If Mr Dashune's government would dissolve itself and simply become part of the existing system on Parein II and the Sarin Sector (with no claims of Independence) then I would see no problem.
Either these are refugees = they should be welcomed but integrated into our society.
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They are invaders, simply seeking to take Imperial lands for themselves and should be deported.
Verence Terrawin
Senator of Alsakan
First Lord of the Foreign Office, Alsakan
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| Tremaine_Fowlkes | Date: Monday, 29 Aug 2011, 6:42 PM | Message # 21 |
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| Senators and Representatives,
Before we put Presidium Da'shune under more scrutiny, we should be more understanding of his culture. Hapans are isolationists. It is perfectly understandable for them to be reluctant on providing their trade secrets this early. Instead of pressuring the man, of which could lead to a tense relationship between the Empire and the Independent Hapan Nation, we should show why we could be trusted. You must consider that this is a big step for the Hapans to reach out to us, the Imperial Senate. I believe that they had broken off from the Hapes Consortium because they would like to have their own government, with their own rules and laws without having any outside interference.
As to Senator Terrawin's assumption that it was a possible sign of invasion and coup, I am certain this is not the case. This is a simple misunderstanding for all the parties involved. Surely, this is not a black-or-white situation. I have spoken with the Presidium, and we have arranged for me to take a trip to confer with him on Parein II. I would like to volunteer myself to be the mediator of the negotiations between the Galactic Empire and the Independent Hapan Nation. I truly believe I can broker a deal between both parties.
If I am not to be the mediator, then I would at least still be able to collect some information for His Majesty.
Tremaine Fowlkes
Senator of Telos IV
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| Ilanah_Thanatos | Date: Monday, 29 Aug 2011, 7:51 PM | Message # 22 |
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| Presidium Da'shune, I apologize for the nature of some that you have already encountered in this chamber during your all too brief stay here. It is a shame indeed that a new nation shows interest in the empire, only to be treated so harshly because of a misunderstanding. I truly hope that you will not take that to heart. Just as you might not understand this and other cultures, we do not understand yours and only wish to gain a better understanding of you and your people. You have done nothing to warrant the assumption of violence or anarchy against the Emperor.
I agree whole-heartedly with Senator Fowlkes and encourage his mediation between all involved parties. Not only is he a good Senator, but he is a good man and has very strong moral values. I would be more than happy to help in any way that I could as well.
Ilanah R. Thanatos
Senator of Chandrila
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| Senator_Cambrist | Date: Monday, 29 Aug 2011, 7:52 PM | Message # 23 |
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| We should be reluctant to casually refer to Mr. Da'shune's people as "the Hapans." According to Mr. Da'shune's own account, he has fled the Hapes Consortium and, if he is telling us the truth, he should have no reason to do them the favor of keeping their secrets. If he does, there is no other conclusion to come to but that he is an operative of the Hapes Consortium who has captured (and apparently fortified) an Imperial planet under the guise of being a "refugee."
With all due respect to Senator Fowlkes, this is not a question of coming to a "deal." Mr. Da'shune is not an equal partner to negotiate with, he is a warlord occupying an Imperial planet and we will dictate terms to him. I feel the Empire has been generous in this so far considering his warships have entered Imperial space unannounced and he now claims to govern a planet that is already home to some hundreds of His Majesty's subjects. I do not mean this to disrespect Mr. Da'shune, but simply to inform him of the predicament he is in.
In any event, Senator Fowlkes, there is no need for you to collect information; Senator Oriel is already on his way to Parein II on a fact-finding mission, and as I said Mr. Da'shune can demonstrate his good faith by providing information directly to the Empire rather than having it haggled out of him. If he doesn't, the intrepid Moff Lestrade of Parein II will simply turn him out. Again, I mean this to inform Mr. Da'shune of the predicament he is in and encourage his cooperation with the Empire. An arrangement of the sort that Senator Terrawin has described is possible, but it is contingent on the decisions that Mr. Da'shune makes from here on out.
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| Kso-Dashune | Date: Tuesday, 30 Aug 2011, 9:41 AM | Message # 24 |
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| Senator Thanatos, Senator Fowlkes, I thank you for your kind words. So many sentient beings are quick to jump to conclusions and allow suspicion to rule their minds. It is disheartening to find so many judgmental voices in a forum where enlightenment and wisdom are said to be plentiful.
Senator Terrawin, had we known Parein II was an Imperial world, we would have settled elsewhere. If making our homes within the boundaries of Imperial space is such a controversial issue, we will, if it pleases all involved, remove ourselves to a world beyond the Outer Rim, if it needs be done, and from there, we shall attempt to establish peace and trade between our peoples once again. This is no invasion and no coup, Senator. If it had been such, we would not have arrived in damaged vessels with wounded aboard and only a step ahead of the headsman's axe. We are what we say we are: refugees fleeing an oppressive and tyrannical government.
Senator Cambrist, let me try to understand something. You wish me to openly share every last bit of Hapan technology with you for no reason other than that I bear the Consortium no love? Will you then, in return, share all the knowledge and research of the Empire with me? I am no fool, Senator. Tired, weary, but no fool. The technology of the Hapan people was worked by the sweat of our brow and the time invested. I do not love the Consortium's government, Senator. It's people are still my family; my own family still sits in a primary place on Gallinore, and I can only hope my actions have brought them no harm. Tell me, Senator, why I should simply rip the veil away? I will willingly tell of any planet in the Hapan Cluster; of the culture and their people, but even should I become a citizen of the Empire, it is not my place to share certain things. I am bound much the same as you.
K'so Da'shune
Presidium of the Independent Hapan Nation
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| Senator_Cambrist | Date: Friday, 02 Sep 2011, 10:03 PM | Message # 25 |
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| The Grand Vizier has answered these sardonic questions in another discussion as thoroughly as I might have, and I shall continue my remarks there presently.
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