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| Senator_Ordan | Date: Tuesday, 11 Oct 2011, 3:12 AM | Message # 1 |
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| SUBMITTED BY: The Keldrath Sector, Proposed to the Senate by Anaxes
RECOGNIZING the situation in the Cronese Mandate appears to be becoming increasingly militaristic with the construction of new weapons of war (the production of half a score of battlestations and a Vindicator-class cruiser this month alone).
GRATEFUL for the intervention at the Vjun Science Station, however noting that in this engagement Cronese vessels were deployed outside of its legal area of operation.
BELIEVING THAT the worlds and sectors surrounding the Cronese Mandate deserve an increased security.
1. DEMANDS the Cronese Mandate ceases operations outside its border and considers revising its military build up downwards.
2. SHOCKED at the intransigence of the Defense Council at the continued illegal possession of the Munificent-class Star Frigate in Cronese Control.
3. DRAWS ATTENTION TO the rest of the Galaxy that the Cronese Mandate has acted so irresponsibility.
Senator Hubert Ordan
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| Bernard_Oriel | Date: Tuesday, 11 Oct 2011, 3:22 AM | Message # 2 |
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| Vjun adds its support to this motion. While we appreciate the Cronese intervention to support us, it is hardly appropriate for Sector fleets to leave their Sector and should avoid doing so in future.
We are not shocked at the Defense Council failing to do their job - they seem to have a history of this.
Bernard Oriel
Senator for the Planet of Vjun
1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation)
Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
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| LordZarcaine | Date: Tuesday, 11 Oct 2011, 8:21 AM | Message # 3 |
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| Mr. Goodchild, the current Representative of the Mandate in place of Kuriyoshi looked over this and could do nothing less than shake his head before speaking.
"Senators, If you believe that the Mandate acted so irresponsible in the defense of the Vjun station, by which now I must inform the Senate that the Vjun station has been moved to the border of Mandate space, with our initial scans showing that it is a sensor station able to reach deep into Mandate space and monitor our movements etc., marking it as nothing less than spying on the Mandate by Vjun, which also now has a powerful battlestation on our border. One that is making the people of the Mandate feel unsafe, also in part that Vjun now has several strikefighters and two squadrons of bombers within easy range of Cronese Space as well. Yet, it would seem that the Mandate fleet going to the aid of another Imperial member worlds station, actions that if not been taking would have caused an even longer response by the Sector Fleet of the Thanium Worlds. If you believe that the Mandate acted irresponsible in their actions in an attempt to help protect and save lives, then it is simple that we will not come to the aid of the Vjun stations should they come under attack in the future. As for this Star Frigate that everyone seems to throw around, it should be noted that the vessels Prow Heavy Turbolaser was already removed after Robeir XXI captured it during the Clone Wars and folded it into the Mandate defensive fleet, and was handed to Robeir XXII as a gift upon his ascension to the Head of the House Cron."
Lord Zarcaine Kuriyoshi
Lord of Chandaar
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| Senator_Cambrist | Date: Tuesday, 11 Oct 2011, 8:52 AM | Message # 4 |
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| This answer is satisfactory to me, though I would remind the acting Senator that this Senate has praised the work of the Vjun Science Station unreservedly. But if the people of the Cronese Mandate support these additional defense expenses, I see no reason the Mandate shouldn't expand its forces, within reason of course. Provided, that is, its Senator has assured us it is not for belligerent purposes, as indeed he has. I'm inclined to ask, has this concern of the Keldrath Sector on this issue been expressed to the Cronese Mandate directly? Presumably it should before it's brought to the attention of the Senate.
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| LordZarcaine | Date: Tuesday, 11 Oct 2011, 8:57 AM | Message # 5 |
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| Senator Cambrist, this is the first time that we've even heard of any concerns croming from the Keldrath Sector, or any any of the above mentioned points. Robeir XXII has also expressed his concern to me as of the lack of the Keldrath Sector to bring this to us personally so that we may come to a proper conclusion and rest their concerns, yet it would appear that they found this venue more appropriate to voice such concerns.
Lord Zarcaine Kuriyoshi
Lord of Chandaar
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| Bernard_Oriel | Date: Tuesday, 11 Oct 2011, 8:57 AM | Message # 6 |
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| Glad to hear about the star frigate. It needed those death rays removed.
The Vjun Sensor Array is a peaceful enterprise by the Vjun Science Commission, a non-governmental organization which has received plaudits from a broad cross section of the Senate for its diligent research despite political borders. After it was attacked, Vjun has (with permission of the Sector Moff) moved a space station to protect it, I don't see how this threatens the Cronese Mandate? So it has a fighter and bomber compliment, no more than it needs to see off the likes of the raiders it encountered.
I personally have little issue with the Cronese Mandate fortifying its borders, while it is highly suspicious it does not threaten its neighbors. What does threaten them is the construction of yet more warships - adding to this you have aggressive warships in your fleet - the Keldabe-class and Vindicator-class instead of more practical and useful corvettes which give you more strength in depth for patrols.
Bernard Oriel
Senator for the Planet of Vjun
1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation)
Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
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| LordZarcaine | Date: Tuesday, 11 Oct 2011, 9:08 AM | Message # 7 |
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| Senator Oriel, it is not just the presence of the Sensor Array and its fighter and bomber compliment on our borders that causes unease in our people, it is also the battle station and the fighter and bombers capability of being used against Mandate Worlds in such a close striking position that causes unease in our people. I feel that I must inform the Senate that the Station on the Mandate borders will be watched closely so that our own people will feel at ease.
As for the concerns of our fortifying the Mandate, it is nothing less than defensive and to give our people peace of mind so that they may sleep at night. We have no wants to act in any kind of hostile actions towards out neighbors, and it should be noted that the Keldabe Class Battleship Vigilance was relegated strictly to defensive duty with in the Mandate, and that the Vindicator Class Heavy Cruisers The Black Flag is tasked with patrolling our borders, as well as jumping to nearby star systems to offer aide should the call for it be heard.
Lord Zarcaine Kuriyoshi
Lord of Chandaar
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| Bernard_Oriel | Date: Tuesday, 11 Oct 2011, 9:49 AM | Message # 8 |
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| Of course they are no threat. Why would Vjun have a quarrel with the Cronese Mandate who so recently came to their aid at their Station?
I do find it reasonable that your allies are concerned that the 101st Fleet (one not stated to be defensive) has enough firepower to conquer a small world, having as it does three carrier vessels, your statement that they are "ready" to "aid" surrounding systems will likely do little to put them at their ease..
How many fleets does the Cronese Mandate have? I notice one is numbered the 101st.. Is it possible that you are simply not listing all your ships?
Bernard Oriel
Senator for the Planet of Vjun
1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation)
Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
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| LordZarcaine | Date: Tuesday, 11 Oct 2011, 9:54 AM | Message # 9 |
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| Senator Oriel, the terms "ready to aid" are simple just that, our vessels are always ready to take needed action, and should the call come for aid from another star system, the vessels would be ready to be dispatched to the scene, provided that the world of course give permission for the vessels to enter their space. As for the numbering, the 101st Cronese Fleet is named so in homage to a military unit that once served with distinction on Chandaar, the 101st Airborne, a primarily airborne military unit. Our fleet numbering is merely just numbering, the Mandate has two such fleets, the 101st that you've so mentioned, and our 9th Defensive Fleet.
Lord Zarcaine Kuriyoshi
Lord of Chandaar
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| Bernard_Oriel | Date: Tuesday, 11 Oct 2011, 10:15 AM | Message # 10 |
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| Good to know. Added (11 Oct 2011, 11:15 Am)
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I'd like to invite either Mr Goodchild or Zarcaine, (whoever speaks for the Mandate) to come and meet the Commandant of the VSC station and see if they can iron out the differences between us regarding the placement of these stations.
Bernard Oriel
Senator for the Planet of Vjun
1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation)
Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
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