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Petitioning for Membership
Schmuel_KadramDate: Sunday, 22 Jan 2012, 10:10 PM | Message # 1
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As the Governor of Rothana, I would like to petition to take up a position as Senator of Rothana also.

The Governorship of Rothana is an essentially honorary position, with the main body of government being done by the Pro-Governor of Rothana.

This leaves myself with plenty of time to represent the interests of my world in the Imperial Senate.

I come with an agenda, and I do not hide it.

1. That worlds should buy Imperial when it comes to their fleets, and the suppliers to the Imperial Navy are the best suppliers out there. I believe worlds which are using outdated ships (especially Separatist ones) should be phased out.

2. Starship technology has come along immensely since the Clone Wars, and I believe that discontinued pre-Clone Wars lines do not offer best value for money for worlds, in many cases spare parts are sparse and are not currently produced, and they are often simply out-classed by modern vessels.

3. Individual worlds should stop wasting their money in military research projects. Rothana Heavy Engineering, and it's parent company Kuat Drive Yards spend many times the annual turnover of the average Imperial System on research and development every year. This level of investment is one which even whole Sectors cannot match. Thus small worlds end up producing inferior or unsafe technology which risks the lives of their people.

4. In addition to this, we believe that inexperienced worlds should not produce their own ships. The vast majority of ships produced by small or inexperienced shipyards lack the quality and safety standards of Imperial Suppliers. The third-rate build quality from these docks has resulted in thousands of deaths over the years and is something we believe should be avoided. In addition to this they are often technologically inferior and unable to go toe to toe with more affordable lines provided by Imperial Suppliers.

5. We believe that worlds with even the slightest stain on their character (i.e. Widespread or state disloyalty in the Clone Wars) should not be allowed to produce Capital vessels, to prevent them arming rebels once more.

6. Tough action on Capital-vessels copyright breaches.


Schmuel Kadram
Governor of Rothana
Junior Vice President of Operations KDY


Message edited by Schmuel_Kadram - Sunday, 22 Jan 2012, 10:45 PM
 
Avadrie_volFyrDate: Monday, 23 Jan 2012, 6:08 AM | Message # 2
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How do you feel you will reconcile your position as Senator with that of Junior Vice President of KDY? There is a potential conflict of interest, rather well defined by your agenda.

Lady Avadrie volFyr
Senator of Empress Teta
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Schmuel_KadramDate: Monday, 23 Jan 2012, 1:18 PM | Message # 3
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I see no conflict of interest. The people of my planet's interests are vested in KDY, KDY's interests are those of the Empire.

Schmuel Kadram
Governor of Rothana
Junior Vice President of Operations KDY
 
LomenRyuunDate: Tuesday, 24 Jan 2012, 11:10 AM | Message # 4
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You're an arrogant man, Governor, and so far, you've said little that endears me towards seeing you as a good representative in the Senate. I will quote from some of your points:

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3. Individual worlds should stop wasting their money in military research projects. Rothana Heavy Engineering, and it's parent company Kuat Drive Yards spend many times the annual turnover of the average Imperial System on research and development every year. This level of investment is one which even whole Sectors cannot match. Thus small worlds end up producing inferior or unsafe technology which risks the lives of their people.


There are a number of worlds that are smaller than RHE and KDY, but this does not always mean they produce an inferior product. Perhaps if you were less vested in simply furthering your own products, you would see that such ventures, when they do pay off, raise the revenue of a world and create additional jobs and opportunities.

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4. In addition to this, we believe that inexperienced worlds should not produce their own ships. The vast majority of ships produced by small or inexperienced shipyards lack the quality and safety standards of Imperial Suppliers. The third-rate build quality from these docks has resulted in thousands of deaths over the years and is something we believe should be avoided. In addition to this they are often technologically inferior and unable to go toe to toe with more affordable lines provided by Imperial Suppliers.


Would you go so far as to state openly what worlds you believe these are? Let's not beat around the bush, after all.

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5. We believe that worlds with even the slightest stain on their character (i.e. Widespread or state disloyalty in the Clone Wars) should not be allowed to produce Capital vessels, to prevent them arming rebels once more.


This belief seems as if worlds that are valued now days, worlds such as Sluis Van or even my own world of Druckenwell would be prevented from producing ships. If you have something to say, I'd like to hear it.


Lomen Ryuun
Senator, Doldur Sector
Senator, Druckenwell
Representative, Monor II (10 BBY - 9 BBY)
Representative, Geridard
Representative, Boranall
Representative, Therenor Prime
Vice-chairman, Defense Committee (Temporarily suspended)
Controlling Shareholder - Druckenwell Arms Corporation
 
Schmuel_KadramDate: Tuesday, 24 Jan 2012, 11:26 AM | Message # 5
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As the Governor of Rothana I think it right that I not name names as regards smaller shipyards, frankly I have a feeling such a list might be quite extensive. As for the production of jobs - few people buy the designs of most of the more minor shipyards and so the government if left having paid for expensive equipment which is now useless.

I will be honest and admit, I do not know where.. Druckenwell? Is it? Is, let alone it's affiliation during the Clone Wars. Naturally it is inappropriate that I comment on specifics in an example I simple have no knowledge on.

As for Sluis Van, I believe punitive measures were taken against the Slussi at the end of the war? I believe Sluis Van to be a valued member of the shipbuilding community, if it is reputed as a moderately inefficient dockyard it at least has a proud transgenderational history of enthusiasm and build quality.


Schmuel Kadram
Governor of Rothana
Junior Vice President of Operations KDY
 
Mr_GoodchildDate: Tuesday, 24 Jan 2012, 4:30 PM | Message # 6
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Mr. Kadram, with the above questions by Senator Ryuun, whom has voiced many of the concerns that the Mandate has over your "colorful" views of other members of the Galactic Empire, am I to understand that you believe worlds that had been part of the Confederacy do not deserve the right to defend themselves. While there are worlds in the Cronese Mandate that had been members of the Confederacy, an act to ensure their own safety and survival, there were other worlds that had been forced into the Confederacy. Are you saying that these worlds that had to act to ensure the safety of their people, now do not deserve the right to protect Imperial Citizens.

There are worlds that do not have the ability to pay for the over priced vessels of RHE and KDY, and establish their vessel construction projects to ensure a vessel that they can afford. Would you take that away merely because a world refuses to pay the over priced mark ups on a vessel just because it has the KDY or RHE brand on it.


Mr. Goodchild
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Representative of the Cronese Mandate
 
Schmuel_KadramDate: Tuesday, 24 Jan 2012, 5:50 PM | Message # 7
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The Vessels of KDY offer best value for money. Our ships are competitively priced and have the highest cost-firepower average in the market. In addition to this, safety and compatibility are first on our designs and thanks to our cooperation with the Imperial Department of Military Research we are able to bring the Galaxy the most modern alloys at an affordable price.

The accusation our vessels are "marked up" is simple nonsense, and our affordability and quality is backed by the fact that Kuat Drive Yards and it's subsidiaries are the major suppliers to the Empire, having been selected by the various bidding processes the Empire has for contracts due to us producing vessels of high quality and good value.

Perhaps some shoddier Outer Rim worlds cannot afford the pricetag and excellence which goes with the Kuat Drive Yards logo, and so, as you point out, end up having poorly constructed ships. Frankly, if I were to go to war, I would far rather it was with the industry expertise and experience of Kuat Drive Yards behind me, than the "expertise" found in many of the smaller and newer docks. Furthermore, our ships and technology all have a universal operating system style, making them compatible with trained crews across the galaxy, meaning that expensive courses do not need to be funded to teach crews how to operate different command and control systems, especially poorer ones from the less experienced worlds.

As for the loyalty issue. I am afraid that this is a simple moral matter and a personal belief. My world gave everything it had in the service of the Empire and Republic during the Clone Wars, and so, yes, I believe that those who did not the same should perhaps not receive all the privileges which go with that loyal and honourable service.


Schmuel Kadram
Governor of Rothana
Junior Vice President of Operations KDY
 
Mr_GoodchildDate: Tuesday, 24 Jan 2012, 6:49 PM | Message # 8
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Mr. Kadram, the fact that you believe that hostages to the Confederacy during the Clone Wars do not deserve the same rights as worlds that stood for the Republic and are now loyal to the Empire is more than enough to sway my opinion to vote against this, however, that vote would go purely against yourself Mr. Kadram. I would have no problem voting for Rothana to have a position in the Senate, if, and only if the Senator that would Represent Rothana was anyone other than yourself Mr. Kadram, with that being having no conflict of interest in the form of having a position within RHE or KDY, or being a senior member or board member of either company.

Mr. Goodchild
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Representative of the Cronese Mandate
 
Schmuel_KadramDate: Tuesday, 24 Jan 2012, 7:10 PM | Message # 9
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Senator Goodchild, Are you honestly saying that you oppose my honestly held belief? Do you have no belief in freedom of speech? I think that this opposition to the will of my people (in selecting me) is shocking conduct and extremely unwarranted.

I think you should also stop making a "straw man fallacy" for my argument. I am in favour of stripping enthusiastic Separatists of their right to produce vessels. If these people were as you say "held hostage" by the Confederacy then naturally I would consider them innocent, just as a violated woman bears no shame.

However, if they gave their virtue to the Confederacy, and now are simply having "buyers remorse" (because they picked the wrong side) then I do not think they should be given concessions. If people and Governments choose to make mistakes then they have to take the consequences of them.

Frankly, I admit that I have no plans to actually legislate on these matters presently, merely that I am broadly opposed to ex-Separatists having the capacity to build warfleets again! The people of the Empire have suffered too much to risk this, and I can assure the chamber that I would vote in favour of any motion which serves to protect the Empire in this way.


Schmuel Kadram
Governor of Rothana
Junior Vice President of Operations KDY
 
Draken_TurotDate: Wednesday, 25 Jan 2012, 2:45 PM | Message # 10
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I apologize Mr. Kadram, but I for one welcome you to the Senate as a very venturous and prospective member of the Galactic Senate! Long live the Empire and all that serve her mighty Emperor!!!

 
Ilanah_ThanatosDate: Wednesday, 25 Jan 2012, 4:21 PM | Message # 11
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Mr. Kadram...I have had the pleasure of visiting the Rothana Ship Yards within the past year. It is a very well run facility and I was incredibly impressed with the employees on staff during my visit. Unfortunately, I did not get to take the time to visit Rothana, proper, but I do hope to do so some day.

I have always believed, very strongly, that every world deserves representation in the Imperial Senate, so I would also like to extend a warm welcome to you. I hope that everything goes well for you here.


Ilanah R. Thanatos
Senator of Chandrila
 
Senator_CambristDate: Friday, 27 Jan 2012, 10:04 AM | Message # 12
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Mr. Kadram appears to be an eminently reasonable man and it's unfortunate to see his petition opposed out of selfish parochial interests. I have no objection to him and I hope to welcome him to the Senate in the coming day or so.

 
Avram_KirkwoodDate: Friday, 27 Jan 2012, 11:16 PM | Message # 13
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I see nothing within this gentleman's application which requires denial or questioning. Approve.

The Honorable Avram W. Kirkwood
Senator of the Cygnus Star Empire

General, Imperial Army (Ret.)


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Sate_PestageDate: Tuesday, 31 Jan 2012, 1:13 AM | Message # 14
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As there appear to be no further questions, if you'll repeat after me please, Mr. Kadram?

"I, (state your name), do solemnly swear, under penalty of treason, that I will represent the people of (state your constituency) to the best of my ability, that I will bear true allegiance to the Empire, its Emperor, and its policies, that I will uphold and abide the Imperial Charter, that I will preserve and protect the principles of the New Order, and that I will defend all of these from all enemies of the Empire, both foreign and domestic. So help me."


Sate Pestage
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Assistant to Emperor Palpatine
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Schmuel_KadramDate: Tuesday, 31 Jan 2012, 3:20 AM | Message # 15
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"I, Schmuel Kadram, do solemnly swear, under penalty of treason, that I will represent the people of Rothana to the best of my ability, that I will bear true allegiance to the Empire, its Emperor, and its policies, that I will uphold and abide the Imperial Charter, that I will preserve and protect the principles of the New Order, and that I will defend all of these from all enemies of the Empire, both foreign and domestic. So help me."

Schmuel Kadram
Governor of Rothana
Junior Vice President of Operations KDY
 
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