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| LomenRyuun | Date: Thursday, 07 Jun 2012, 7:08 AM | Message # 16 |
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| Senator North, you don't take into account that the man saved the life of a Senator, even at great risk to his own. All you can focus on is something akin to a weapons malfunction that didn't result in any harm done to anyone. Mr. Stark has done quite a bit in terms of humanitarian acts as well; I charge you, Senator North, what have you done for the people? I'm fully in favor of admitting him to the Senate. Perhaps it will be a fresh change of pace.
Lomen Ryuun
Senator, Doldur Sector
Senator, Druckenwell
Representative, Monor II (10 BBY - 9 BBY)
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| Senator_Cambrist | Date: Thursday, 07 Jun 2012, 9:28 AM | Message # 17 |
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| Quote (Senator Thanatos) I suppose that you would have preferred that he let Senator Lekpin die? Would you have wanted no one to come when you needed help?
Senator Thanatos, you know quite well that the proper authorities were perfectly capable of rescuing Senators who needed to be rescued on that day. It's their job to do so, not Mr. Stark's job. For Mr. Stark to insert himself into the chaotic events of the droid uprising―accompanied by droid starfighters, no less―is irresponsible in the extreme. If anything, Mr. Stark's bravado endangered Senator Lekpin's life, as three squadrons of Imperial ships that could have been rescuing the Senator were instead preoccupied with Mr. Stark's vainglorious antics, antics which contributed to the near-anarchy of that horrible day.
We're a society of laws, and it's unbecoming of a Senator―that is, a lawmaker―to ignore whatever laws he pleases. I've met Mr. Stark personally and I hadn't intended to raise this subject at first, but as I listened to him speak on this I was rather shocked to hear not a single word of regret or contrition from him.
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Thursday, 07 Jun 2012, 12:16 PM | Message # 18 |
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| If I may, Senator Cambrist?
I am indeed apologetic for any scare I gave to the Imperial authorities. It was not my intent to engage or fire upon them; a defensive protocol is a defensive protocol, and in the haste in which I hurried to rescue the representative of my people, I did not take the time to reprogram the drones to recognize Imperial craft as neutral, non-hostile entities regardless of action. Needless to say, this will be altered in future versions of my personal defense drones.
Were my actions irresponsible? Perhaps. Did they prevent Representative Lekpin from being rescued? Hardly. Three squadrons of TIE fighters that would have been less able to land and retrieve Representative Lekpin and only provide overwatch were tied up for a brief time, yes. Was that wrong of me? Perhaps. Lawfully wrong, in this case. Was I morally wrong? Far from it, I would say. Any man who is willing to risk life and limb to save one of his own embodies the spirit of self-sacrifice, I believe. It is a tenet of the armed forces, Senator Cambrist. I do not recall how long you served for, but perhaps you do recall this?
The Imperial commandos who retrieved Representative Lekpin that day are to be commended; they responded as quickly as they could, all things considered. However, I am not apologetic for the fact that I was called upon by the Representative and went to his rescue. The ability to deploy and respond more rapidly than the Imperial forces in this particular incident speaks for itself: Representative Lekpin is alive tor recover from his wounds.
Alyn Stark
Lord of Kinyov
Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy
Head of House Malos (former)
Licensed bounty hunter
Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering
Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate
Civilian Medal of Honor recipient
Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
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| Roman_Lekpin | Date: Thursday, 07 Jun 2012, 12:27 PM | Message # 19 |
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| Senator Cambrist, Mr. Stark and I will never be friends. We have both stated that openly and on more than one occasion. My political allegiance is quite opposite his, but my personal opinions will remain my own. Nonetheless, I do owe Mr. Stark a debt of gratitude and for that, I will speak on his behalf here.
Perhaps instead of grilling the man, you should understand that he did indeed save my life, managing to respond before the Imperial authorities did. For that much, I am grateful. I don't know where you were, Senator, but being trapped under a repulsor vehicle is less than pleasant, especially with the prospect of death all around.
Roman Lekpin
Representative, Lorrd (11 BBY-10 BBY) (9 BBY-Present)
Chosen of House Garth
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| Senator_Cambrist | Date: Thursday, 07 Jun 2012, 1:16 PM | Message # 20 |
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| You have a very high opinion of yourself, Mr. Stark. I'm sure the incident on Imperial Center and your half-apology for it (and moreover, your loud charitable endeavors) have nothing at all to do with your ego. But so you're aware, Sir, there are those who "serve" and those who are served. I do not "serve." And Senator Lekpin, why is it that you called Mr. Stark for help and not the proper authorities, who were far more able to assist you than Mr. Stark was? It's disingenuous to say he rescued you "before the Imperial authorities did" when you didn't even notify the authorities of your predicament.
Now that we know that both you and Mr. Stark (and the Houses of Lorrd) approve of anarchy, I wonder―is there anyone on Lorrd who believes in the rule of law, not of men? Or do you all clap your hands raw at vigilantism? I dare say the Argazdans are more civilized than this.
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| Exar_Ray | Date: Thursday, 07 Jun 2012, 2:43 PM | Message # 21 |
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| Now naturally a position switch such as this does indeed draw a few question. Lord Stark, forgive me if this question has been asked, however for my sack, I would like to know if there are any assurances from you to this Senate that when Senator Lekpin makes a recovery and returns to duty, that you will not hold his seat hostage. What can you provide us that will somewhat settle the political fire?
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| Avram_Kirkwood | Date: Thursday, 07 Jun 2012, 2:51 PM | Message # 22 |
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| Mr. Stark, you flew droid fighters into a droid revolt. You manufactured droid fighters which could attack Imperial forces. Those droid fighter did just that in the midst of a droid revolt, which you were flying with. It was irresponsible at best and unlawful endangerment at worst, there is no perhaps to the matter. Your sad attempt at an apology, if one could call it such, shows that you are, frankly, too irresponsible for the power of the Senate and this hall. The fact that you felt you could fly into a battle zone, interfere with Imperial Military operations and even attack the Imperial Military, without consequence is could be interpreted by one as either a divorce from reality or, quite possibly, a move to join the fledgling resistance to the Empire. Surely you understand, Mr. Stark, how this looks? And how your actions thus far since had instilled little faith in you?
And Senator Lekpin, I also ask why you contacted Mr. Stark, rather than the proper Imperial authorities, for assistance?
The Honorable Avram W. Kirkwood
Senator of the Cygnus Star Empire
General, Imperial Army (Ret.)
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Friday, 08 Jun 2012, 4:35 AM | Message # 23 |
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| Apparently, Senator Cambrist, as you said, you did not serve.
Senator Ray, I commend you for a valid question that isn't simply an attack on my character or a poor attempt to insult myself. In response, I offer this fact: Representative Lekpin was elected with the full consent of the people of Lorrd and the full vote of all the ruling Houses. While I enjoy the majority vote of the people, I only have the support of two of the three Houses. While this may not seem directly relevant, trust that in end result, there would be no possibility of me holding Representative Lekpin's seat from him. As Senator Cambrist has pointed out, I have a province to run, companies to oversee and a number of other projects on my list. As Representative Lekpin and I have discussed, my temporary time as the Lorrdian Representative is not likely to exceed three standard months.
Senator Kirkwood, I'm afraid I'm rather unfamiliar with yourself. For that I apologize. I am not necessarily aware of all the smaller senators from along the entire Outer Rim. You are correct though, I did fly drone fighters during a droid uprising. I did manufacture drones designed to protect myself; a distinction you seem to overlook whilst you clamor left and right that my forces attacked Imperial forces. My apologies have already been produced and given to the Imperial Starfighter Corps and to a number of other beings that required apologizing to. I do not owe the Senate an apology, Senator Kirkwood. Attempting to paint me in the same light as any treasonous forces who stand against the Empire is simply laughable; show me where I've stood against the Empire in any way and I will prove you to be wrong.
Alyn Stark
Lord of Kinyov
Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy
Head of House Malos (former)
Licensed bounty hunter
Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering
Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate
Civilian Medal of Honor recipient
Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
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| Roman_Lekpin | Date: Friday, 08 Jun 2012, 4:39 AM | Message # 24 |
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| I dare say that you know little of what you're speaking of, Senator Cambrist. Were you even caught in the droid revolt? I can't be sure; you always seem to be at the right place and time to avoid any danger, if your records speak true. Nonetheless, there has been no approval of anarchy or vigilantism from Lorrd on any front, and your slanderous comments do not suddenly make it so.
Senator Kirkwood, your point is valid; prior to my predicament during the uprising, I had been in conversation with Mr. Stark when I was injured. The commlink remained open on the frequency to Mr. Stark and I was able to relay a message before all communications were cut off. Surely you don't expect a man with the injuries I sustained to be able to sit and wait and place a new call; it was a matter of seconds before the line went dead and I utilized what resource was at my disposal. If you would like to read more of it, I'm sure the police reports that were taken down can reveal everything you'd like to know.
Roman Lekpin
Representative, Lorrd (11 BBY-10 BBY) (9 BBY-Present)
Chosen of House Garth
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| LomenRyuun | Date: Friday, 08 Jun 2012, 4:44 AM | Message # 25 |
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| Representative Lekpin, you do seem to have a valid point.
Cambrist, you're such an instigator! Amusing as it is at times to watch you bait people, you both need to put your drones back in your pants. Mr. Stark, what you did; vigilantism and whatnot; don't do it again. I'm sure you've learned your lesson on that. Cambrist here just dislikes you because your drones compete with his and he likes anything he can control. As such, if nobody has a real issue with the man, who we can agree has paid his debt to society, promised to not do it again and is once more a productive citizen, I feel we should wrap this up and leave the witch-hunting behind.
Lorrd needs a senator and Mr. Stark is the people's choice.
Lomen Ryuun
Senator, Doldur Sector
Senator, Druckenwell
Representative, Monor II (10 BBY - 9 BBY)
Representative, Geridard
Representative, Boranall
Representative, Therenor Prime
Vice-chairman, Defense Committee (Temporarily suspended)
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| Verence_Terrawin | Date: Friday, 08 Jun 2012, 4:57 AM | Message # 26 |
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| Gentle beings,
Allow me to speak for just a moment:
This is a man who:
- Breached a stated no fly zone in contravention of Imperial regulations.
- Possessed (and perhaps still possesses?) drones with the capacity to fire on organic Imperial crewmen.
- Owns and manufactures a variety of highly deadly weapon systems, the operation of which he is proficient in.
- Is a bounty hunter.
Noone disputes these facts?
As such I move to vote against allowing Mr Stark into the chamber in any capacity. To allow a lawbreaking bounty hunter who fired at Imperial troops (machines under his command and the man himself are not legally distinguishable) to even enter it demeans the chamber as an entity, to allow him a seat would make us no less than a Galactic laughing stock.
Verence Terrawin
Senator of Alsakan
First Lord of the Foreign Office, Alsakan
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| Toben-Domon | Date: Friday, 08 Jun 2012, 5:04 AM | Message # 27 |
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| Senator Terrawin, Mr. Stark served his brief time in prison. According to the Imperial legal system, his debt to society has been paid, at least in their eyes. If it's good enough for the Emperor's courts and judicial systems, then who are we to thumb our noses at him?
Did he breach a no-fly zone? Indeed.
Does he possess drones that may or may not be capable of firing on Imperial forces? Perhaps. Perhaps not. It's all a moot point if we simply create a bill that requires all drone craft to install a system that will prevent them from firing on ships broadcasting an Imperial IFF.
You can't discredit a man for being a bounty hunter if he chooses to do such in his spare time, or from even owning weapon systems. The man does run a business, Senator Terrawin. I'm sure you're proficient in... well, whatever you do on Alsakan. He's proficient in what he does.
I move vote in favor of allowing Mr. Stark to enter the chamber as the temporary Representative of the Lorrdian people.
Toben Domon
Senator, Sluis Van
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| Verence_Terrawin | Date: Friday, 08 Jun 2012, 5:27 AM | Message # 28 |
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| Senator Domon, do Mr Stark or any of his companies or charities have establishments or interests on any world in your sector? I cannot imagine any other reason than being in the pocket of a bounty hunter that a Senator would even consider voting for one.
Bounty hunters are men who capture (and often kill) people for money. A man who does this out of necessity I could perhaps understand, one doing a dirty job to stay alive.. One who does so for a hobby is beyond the pale.
"Why not just ban his droids shooting at Imperials?" you ask. And I reply that I think this whole farcical episode of attempted vigilantism highlights why droid fighters are a bad idea. Human pilots are able to choose whether to follow the law or not, but Starks death-droids have no freedom of mind as they are mere machines - but ones with the capacity to inflict massive suffering and even death upon even our military - imagine if Mr Stark unleashed a dozen of his intelligent killing machines in one of your cities?
So yes, I'd ban them being able to fire at organics, if not ban them all together. The fact remains that droids in Mr Starks ownership fired upon the vessels of His Majesty's navy who were in this instance acting clearly in the defence of the peace.
And yes, I, quite sure Mr Stark is proficient in what he does - but what he does is not make laws. I question his suitability on that too - he's a death-dealer (in all senses of the word) who gives money to charity to distract from the fact - and you, one who professes moderation would approve his entry into this chamber?
Verence Terrawin
Senator of Alsakan
First Lord of the Foreign Office, Alsakan
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Friday, 08 Jun 2012, 8:36 AM | Message # 29 |
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| It would seem that Senator Terrawin may have a few misconceptions about bounty hunters. I will elaborate for his benefit. The Empire, at times, has fugitives that appear on its most-wanted list; terrible beings who are capable of terrible crimes that must be stopped at any cost. If I can utilize my wealth to capture these criminals, especially in my free time and, I confess, to fulfill the thrill-seeker side that comes out now and again, is that so wrong? Hardly. Am I a licensed bounty hunter? Yes. Have I actively sought out bounties to hunt? No I have not, but should I ever encounter one of those misbegotten individuals, I plan to bring them to the Emperor's justice and furthermore, utilize any bounty rewards to donate to charities. I hardly have need of the monies.
Senator Terrawin is also mistaken on another point: the drone designs from Vigilance Technologies are not 'death-droids.' Those are the words of those who fear progress and peace and are not willing to look to the future. The drone designs are built for planetary forces to defend worlds and individuals from attack by pirate forces. In all technicality, the drones in this case, albeit acting against the wrong enemies, did perform exactly as advertised: they moved to defend my vessel. I have been assured that it will be a simple matter to install a targeting subroutine within all existing and future drone models that will identify Imperial craft by type and categorize them automatically as friendlies and not to be fired upon. Breach of this programming will shut down the drone; despite this little incident, I will not be responsible for the deaths of fellow loyal Imperials.
You call me a death dealer, Senator Terrawin. I am a firm believer in peace. I challenge you, Senator, what have you done for the galaxy? It is common knowledge that Alsakan placed some few outdated defense stations at the borders of Hutt Space to attempt to halt slaver activities, but what has this yielded? I see no stories of rescued slaves praising Alsakan. However, Stark Defense Conglomerate markets products for defense for everyone; from the common man to military forces of legitimate governments.
You argument is flawed, Senator, and trying to slight my holding of an Imperial Peacekeeping Certificate, and I stress Imperial and peacekeeping are petty attempts to try and bar me from the Senate.
Alyn Stark
Lord of Kinyov
Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy
Head of House Malos (former)
Licensed bounty hunter
Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering
Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate
Civilian Medal of Honor recipient
Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
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| Toben-Domon | Date: Friday, 08 Jun 2012, 8:52 AM | Message # 30 |
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| I am not in anyone's pocket, Senator. I simply believe that what Mr. Stark chooses to do in his free time, so long as it breaks no laws, is his business. I won't discount the man's political and military background, nor his wish to see peace spread and planets defended just because of a single incident in what seems to be an otherwise quite legitimate past. My vote still stands. If you wish to vote otherwise then do so, but I for one am not here to argue.
If this inquisition continues, I feel it may rest with the Chair to make the final decision.
Toben Domon
Senator, Sluis Van
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