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The Removal of Separatist Vessels Act
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Wednesday, 15 Aug 2012, 12:29 PM | Message # 1 |
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| The Removal of Separatist Vessels Act
Purpose-
- This act is created to remove any vessels of Separatist make and model from planetary naval forces under the grounds that utilization of such vessels continues to bring reminders of the Clone Wars to the forefront of all minds as well as allow Separatist remnants the chance to raid planets defended by such vessels in the chance they may acquire replacement parts for their own aging ships.
Article I-
- Any planetary or independent naval force which utilizes vessels formerly of the type associated with Confederacy of Independent Systems will be required within a standard year's time of the passing of this act to remand their vessels to Imperial custody, whereupon said vessels will be taken and dismantled at Imperial-designated shipyards and either fully scrapped or sold for parts. The standard year may be waived for up to eighteen standard months by a sector governor's approval.
Article II-
- Of any monies gained by the scrapping or sale of these vessels, ninety-percent will be returned to the planetary governments who claimed ownership of the vessels so that they might replace any gaps within a planetary fleet. Furthermore, these planets which have remanded their Separatist vessels to the Empire will receive a five-percent discount on the next two vessels they decide to purchase to boost their defense fleets.
Article III-
- It will become illegal to purchase or own Separatist-classed vessels after the passing of this act and if such vessels are not remanded to Imperial custody at the end of the month grace period, those planets will face punishment including but not limited to economic sanctions, trade restrictions and armed removal of their vessels.
Article IV-
- Exceptions to the above law will be as follows:
- CR90 Corvette
- Trandoshan dropships
- Sheathipede-class transport shuttle
- Z-95 Headhunter
- NovaSword Space Superiority Fighter
- Porax-38 Starfighter
Definitions-
- 'Separatist vessels' shall be defined as ships manufactured by Separatist elements for use against the Republic during the Clone Wars.
Alyn Stark
Lord of Kinyov
Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy
Head of House Malos (former)
Licensed bounty hunter
Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering
Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate
Civilian Medal of Honor recipient
Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
Message edited by Alyn_Stark - Thursday, 16 Aug 2012, 6:27 PM |
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| Draken_Turot | Date: Wednesday, 15 Aug 2012, 1:31 PM | Message # 2 |
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| Unless I see the exemption of a Lucrehulk-class battleship, Acherin will have no choice but to vote against this for the time being!!
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Wednesday, 15 Aug 2012, 1:39 PM | Message # 3 |
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| I do find it a bit strange that Acherin, one of the most notable Imperial supporters, still fields a Lucrehulk-class vessel even if it does reside in stationary orbit. I may be mistaken, but does not Acherin also field an Acclamator and several DP20 frigates? It would be a simple matter or so it seems, Senator, for Acherin to replace the Lucrehulk if it is only being used as a stationary defense with something more modernized such as a Golan platform.
Alyn Stark
Lord of Kinyov
Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy
Head of House Malos (former)
Licensed bounty hunter
Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering
Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate
Civilian Medal of Honor recipient
Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
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| Draken_Turot | Date: Wednesday, 15 Aug 2012, 1:49 PM | Message # 4 |
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| The nerve of you, Stark! To question MY loyalty to the Empire all because we field ONE ship used by the Separatists!!! It makes for a very effective defense platform/customs operational platform! I'll tell you what, you present me with a pair of designs that outclass the Lucrehulk... I'll consider it! But until then, I will not vote on this matter unless Article IV is amended or reworded to include Acherin's Lucrehulk!!!
Message edited by Xane_Ray - Wednesday, 15 Aug 2012, 1:49 PM |
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Wednesday, 15 Aug 2012, 1:55 PM | Message # 5 |
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| Did I ever question your loyalty, Governor-General? No. I did not, and I'll thank you not to make inferences on what I say. If I was questioning your loyalty, I would have done so openly. However, to ease your mind, I shall rephrase my earlier statement. Why does Acherin, one of the most loyal supporters of the Empire, field a Lucrehulk vessel as a customs station and defense platform when a Golan-II or III station would quite easily offer superior firepower and the same ability?
Granted, if you wished, I'm sure you could contact someone at Lorrd Engineering to design a replacement station for Acherin, but Golan Arms already produces an exceptional product. I cannot, in good conscience, make a single exception for Acherin's Lucrehulk on the grounds that everyone would want an exception. It's not the fact that you have it, Governor-General; the the fact of what Separatist vessels stand for.
Alyn Stark
Lord of Kinyov
Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy
Head of House Malos (former)
Licensed bounty hunter
Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering
Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate
Civilian Medal of Honor recipient
Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
Message edited by Alyn_Stark - Wednesday, 15 Aug 2012, 1:55 PM |
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| Draken_Turot | Date: Wednesday, 15 Aug 2012, 2:01 PM | Message # 6 |
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| If you are purposing for me to get rid of my Lucrehulk, then someone from your department can contact me! I will not in good conscience remove any piece of military hardware unless it's for an equal or greater exchange! I will not vote in favor, as stated before, unless Acherin's Lucrehulk is added... the damn thing can't even leave Acherin's orbit!!! It can make minor adjustments to correct it's movement or to push it back up into balance!!! The Lucrehulk stands for the fact that we must ever be vigilant, to serve as a reminder that corruption can be deeming!!! However, the same vessel serves to point out that not everyone is against the Empire!!! However, for your convenient, either Acherin's Lucrehulk is added to the list, OR you increase the cost percentages for the Separatist vessels! Either or will cast my vote in favor...
And speaking of which, who would be contracted to carry out these decommissioning of these ships?!!!
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Wednesday, 15 Aug 2012, 2:05 PM | Message # 7 |
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| I believe the refund plus the discount is more than adequate, but after hearing from other senators, I might increase the amount returned to fifty or sixty percent. There are costs involved, after all. Furthermore, the Lucrehulk design is an aged and antiquated vessel, largely unfit for any true military service ten years past its date. They don't even make true replacement parts for such, Governor-General. At the end of the day, you'd be much better served with something newer.
Which actually calls to mind, doesn't Acherin already possess a Golan-I station taken from Chandaar?
As for who would decommission vessels, I believe the Empire has a large number of loyal shipyards in good standing who would be asked to decommission the vessels. Naturally, exactly who would decommission them is a simple matter for the Defense Committee to manage.
Alyn Stark
Lord of Kinyov
Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy
Head of House Malos (former)
Licensed bounty hunter
Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering
Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate
Civilian Medal of Honor recipient
Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
Message edited by Alyn_Stark - Wednesday, 15 Aug 2012, 2:07 PM |
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| Draken_Turot | Date: Wednesday, 15 Aug 2012, 2:15 PM | Message # 8 |
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| The Golan-I taken from Chandaar is still undergoing several security changes to ensure that nothing places the security of Acherin or other members of the Empire in jeopardy!!! And replacement parts don't really cover the topic of replacing the Lucrehulk with something else, does it?! My mind on the matter is clear, and while I agree that Separatist ships should be melted down completely, lets not forget that several worlds use these vessels! No matter what law is passed, I will not allow for a security default for Acherin!!!!
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Wednesday, 15 Aug 2012, 2:19 PM | Message # 9 |
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| Quite understandable, Governor-General, and I would not see loyal Acherin stripped of defenses any more than you would. That is why the month period exists, to allow for a secondary defense to be placed. As you said, you believe all Separatist vessels should be scrapped; how long would it take Acherin to get the Golan-I station up and running fully? Or, barring the immediate activation of the Golan-I, Acherin could well invest in an unarmed customs station with hangars and supplement it with gun and warhead platforms, both options of which are quite cost-effective and could further aide Acherin's defense when the Golan comes fully online.
I'm not trying to steal your defenses, Governor-General, I'm trying to help you.
Alyn Stark
Lord of Kinyov
Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy
Head of House Malos (former)
Licensed bounty hunter
Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering
Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate
Civilian Medal of Honor recipient
Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
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| Draken_Turot | Date: Wednesday, 15 Aug 2012, 6:10 PM | Message # 10 |
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| The Golan-I will be atleast within a few standard weeks of revamping it's security systems; getting rid of the Cronese garbage that continues to plague the databanks! However, with what information we have gained from it, we are using to our advantage!
Message edited by Xane_Ray - Wednesday, 15 Aug 2012, 6:15 PM |
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| Darres_Verilia | Date: Wednesday, 15 Aug 2012, 10:19 PM | Message # 11 |
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| {Holonet communication coming from the Corporate Sector Authority}
"If it would please the chair of the Senate, I request to be recognized to speak on this matter on behalf of the Corporate Sector Authority, a loyal Imperial Charted Sector"
Darres Verilia
Baron of the Empire
Moff of the Cadavine Sector (Retired)
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| Sate_Pestage | Date: Wednesday, 15 Aug 2012, 10:25 PM | Message # 12 |
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| Mr. Verilia, you are recognized to speak. Please remember to confine your remarks to Mr. Stark's proposal.
Sate Pestage
Grand Vizier of the Empire
Assistant to Emperor Palpatine
Chair of the Imperial Senate
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| Darres_Verilia | Date: Wednesday, 15 Aug 2012, 10:33 PM | Message # 13 |
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| Of course Grand Vizier.
As I've said before, the Corporate Sector Authority requested that I speak on their behalf on this Act. The CSA is a Loyal Imperial chartered Sector, which while having purchased many of the Victory class Star Destroyers of the Victory Fleet from the Clone Wars. It has also purchased a vast number of these so called "Separatist" ships as a means to keep costs down. Both from their easy of crewing, needing little to almost only a few in order to remain effective, as well as for their ease of repairing and maintaining. These vessels comprise most of the CSA fleet at this current time due to the above mentioned pros. If this Act passes it would greatly cripple the ability of the CSA to maintain the safety of the Imperial Citizens within the Corporate Sector, as well as maintaining the security of the Sector in preventing pirates and rebels from seizing the resources being shipped out of the Sector to the Empire to continue the Imperial Fleets constructions.
Make no mistake, the CSA Board of Directors understands the well being and consideration that was put into this bill, they also have made it clear that it would cripple the CSA and their productivity and usefulness to the Empire.
Darres Verilia
Baron of the Empire
Moff of the Cadavine Sector (Retired)
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Thursday, 16 Aug 2012, 9:09 AM | Message # 14 |
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| I fully understand your current plight, Mr. Verilia. If I might inquire, what are the current publicly listed fleet numbers and types for the Corporate Sector Authority's capitol vessel roster?
Alyn Stark
Lord of Kinyov
Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy
Head of House Malos (former)
Licensed bounty hunter
Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering
Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate
Civilian Medal of Honor recipient
Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
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| Darres_Verilia | Date: Thursday, 16 Aug 2012, 11:15 AM | Message # 15 |
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| Mr. Stark, that information is privileged information and not made available to the public under a direct order by the Direx Board of the Corporate Sector. This is done so to prevent the information from reaching the ears of any undesirables that may use such information to their advantage in bringing criminal activities into the Corporate Sector while also avoiding the CSA vessels. Not only do I find it disturbing, the Direx Board also finds it disturbing that a junior member of the Senate is asking for such information. However, there is a question that the Direx Board has about this Act.
Define "Separatist" vessel. According to the Direx Board, whom defines "Separatist" vessel, they define it as a vessel, any vessel, that is commanded by a "Separatist" to carry out the "Separatist" agenda. They consider all of their former Confederacy vessels that were purchased as Corporate Sector vessels and not "Separatist."
Darres Verilia
Baron of the Empire
Moff of the Cadavine Sector (Retired)
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