Condemning the Genocide on Sipsk
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Lord_Bowe | Date: Sunday, 02 Dec 2012, 9:34 PM | Message # 16 |
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| ~ Senator Lekpin would be handed an expedited note from Lord Bowe, who'd been watching the debate from his private wading pool at his castle in Frezen, dosed up with bath salts. He respectfully asked Senator Lekpin to make note of the fact that there'd been no deportations of Vianists from the Frezen Province and, thus, to say "Lorrd has not engaged in a mass purge of such; simply deportations" would not be strictly correct if Senator Lekpin spoke for all of Lorrd. The note then rambled on at length about it being an honor to be entrusted with the disposal of Vianists, that he had no intention of passing the problem on to anyone else, etc. Signed "Dutifully yours, Jareth Bowe." ~
Jareth Bowe Lord of the Frezen Province
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Roman_Lekpin | Date: Sunday, 02 Dec 2012, 9:57 PM | Message # 17 |
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| * Having received the note and read it over, Lekpin moved to correct his statement. *
Let me make a slight alteration to what I had been saying. At this time, not all of Lorrd has yet to deport the Vianists from our world to the moon of Lorrd II. However, pending a meeting with the Ruling Houses, I foresee that this is likely to become the standard, rather than outright disposal of the Vianists. If nothing else, they can be utilized as useful labor on Lorrd II to a productive end, rather than no end at all.
Roman Lekpin Representative, Lorrd (11 BBY-10 BBY) (9 BBY-Present) Chosen of House Garth
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Augusta_Aurelius | Date: Tuesday, 04 Dec 2012, 10:02 PM | Message # 18 |
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| The Human Rights Monitoring and Crisis Resolution Sub-Committee of the Planetary Defense Committee shall, as its first act, begin a formal investigation in this matter, now that it has been brought to the floor of the Senate. Thank you, Senator Vanden.
Augusta Aurelius Queen Conosrt of Deralia Chair of the Human Rights Monitoring and Crisis Resolution Sub-Committee of the Planetary Defense Committee
Senator of Deralia and the Tammuz Sector (30 BBY - 18 BBY, 10 BBY - Present)
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LomenRyuun | Date: Wednesday, 05 Dec 2012, 2:42 AM | Message # 19 |
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| 'Human rights,' Senator, not 'human and alien and possibly not human' rights. The Sipsk'ud are clearly not of Human origin so therefore, do they really fall under that jurisdiction?
Lomen Ryuun Senator, Doldur Sector Senator, Druckenwell Representative, Monor II (10 BBY - 9 BBY) Representative, Geridard Representative, Boranall Representative, Therenor Prime Vice-chairman, Defense Committee (Temporarily suspended) Controlling Shareholder - Druckenwell Arms Corporation
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Verence_Terrawin | Date: Wednesday, 05 Dec 2012, 9:20 AM | Message # 20 |
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| Let the record show that the Government of Lorrd now regards the ethnically cleansed remnant of the Vianist minority as a free labour source.
Verence Terrawin
Senator of Alsakan First Lord of the Foreign Office, Alsakan
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Augusta_Aurelius | Date: Wednesday, 05 Dec 2012, 10:28 AM | Message # 21 |
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| The Llordians however, are of Human origin, and part of the Vianist movement. However this subject matter also falls under crisis resolution as well, Senator Ryuun. I'm not sure why a valued moderate of the Senate has suddenly sprung to the defense of a possible genocide and matter of rights abuse when you have spoken out against such events multiple times within this chamber.
Augusta Aurelius Queen Conosrt of Deralia Chair of the Human Rights Monitoring and Crisis Resolution Sub-Committee of the Planetary Defense Committee
Senator of Deralia and the Tammuz Sector (30 BBY - 18 BBY, 10 BBY - Present)
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Roman_Lekpin | Date: Wednesday, 05 Dec 2012, 1:59 PM | Message # 22 |
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| Senator Terrawin, the bleeding-heart liberal voice in the Senate. Well, on to more important issues to address.
Senator Aurelius, you are correct that the Lorrdians are of Human origin and at the moment, the majority are quite contained safely on Lorrd II, save for some that are in the hands of a Lord Bowe of the Frezen Province. As Lord Bowe states, there have been no deportations from his province. I can only assume the man has dealt with the Vianists in his own method.
Now, with a believer in dangerous cult-like religion such as the Jedi, it might well be simpler as Governor Oswaldt stated to exterminate them, but I don't follow with such drastic measures in this case. The Vianist Lorrdians can still provide a productive part of Lorrdian society in the form of workers. As well, plans are in place to re-integrate any fully repentant Lorrdian who has put aside Vianism and continues to do so.
Roman Lekpin Representative, Lorrd (11 BBY-10 BBY) (9 BBY-Present) Chosen of House Garth
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Senator_Ordan | Date: Wednesday, 05 Dec 2012, 2:23 PM | Message # 23 |
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| Aren't Lorrdians "Near-Humans" in official classification?
Senator Hubert Ordan __________________________
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Roman_Lekpin | Date: Wednesday, 05 Dec 2012, 3:17 PM | Message # 24 |
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| I quote from the Encyclopedia Galactica, Senator Ordan, for this matter:
"The Lorrdians, a Human culture from the planet Lorrd in the Kanz sector, were genetically identical to baseline Humans. However, because their unique culture and history set them apart from other Humans, they were sometimes classified as Near-Humans."
As such, Lorrdians do classify as Humans, though some have considered us Near-Humans.
Roman Lekpin Representative, Lorrd (11 BBY-10 BBY) (9 BBY-Present) Chosen of House Garth
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Ilanah_Thanatos | Date: Thursday, 06 Dec 2012, 4:30 PM | Message # 25 |
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| How exactly did the species classification of Lorrdians come into play here? Human, near-human, or alien...beings are being senselessly murdered. Chandrila votes in favor. Thank you Senator Vanden for bringing this to our attention.
Ilanah R. Thanatos Senator of Chandrila
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Senator_Cambrist | Date: Friday, 07 Dec 2012, 12:05 PM | Message # 26 |
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| It's relevant because Senator Aurelia intends to investigate the recent events on Sipsk with her "Human Rights" Sub-Committee. "Human Rights" are not at issue on Sipsk, where the population is almost entirely Sipsk'ud. I happen to agree that Lorrdians are essentially Human, but there's a weakness to Senator Aurelia's argument that Lorrdians are "of Human origin." A common theory of devolution that I, among others, agree with is that all "near-Human" and "Humanoid" species are of Human origin, but have devolved from the perfected Human form and can no longer be considered one of us. It would seem the Lorrdians are on their way to this outcome, but at this time I believe it's safe to consider them Human.
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Sate_Pestage | Date: Tuesday, 18 Dec 2012, 1:05 PM | Message # 27 |
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| The debate seems to have strayed somewhat from the topic at hand, however it appears the resolution passes with 75% in favor and 25% opposed. But let the record show the Ruling Council's satisfaction with Moff Shirnoq's handling of the Vianist question in the Kanz Sector, including the outcome on Sipsk.
Sate Pestage Grand Vizier of the Empire Assistant to Emperor Palpatine Chair of the Imperial Senate
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