MainMy profileRegistrationLog outLogin
Sunday
29.12.2024
8:43 AM
| RSS Main
[New messages · Members · Forum rules · Search · RSS ]
  • Page 1 of 2
  • 1
  • 2
  • »
Archive - read only
The Ryloth Rescue Act
Jamie_the_HuttDate: Wednesday, 12 May 2010, 1:52 PM | Message # 1
Major general
Group: Users
Messages: 392
Awards: 0
Reputation: -4
Status: Offline
Gentlemen,

Ryloth is an awful place. Its cities ruined by the attrition of Separatist Generals.. *cough*Senator Forte amongst them*cough*, Its people regularly kidnapped by Slavers allegedly from certain regions of space which are under the Governance of the Hutts (but with whom the Hutt Council has no proven link), The ones left live in constant hiding from the unlivable surface conditions.. the appauling beasts which will feast on your flesh as soon as look at you which outnumber the poor benighted Twileks..Not to mention decades of the most immoral, sexually deviant and perverse Government which has failed to protect them from any of the above threats.

As such I, Jamulon Tiure, friend of Twi'lek's everywhere propose the Ryloth Rescue Act.

RYLOTH RESCUE ACT


1. All Ryloth Citizens will be offered transport, free of charge to the Second Moon of Dantooine, in exchange for a commitment of at least 5 years paid work in the Agricultural Industry.
2. The Second Moon of Dantooine will be renamed "New Ryloth", it will be made an Province of Dantooine, allowing the local population assembly devolved Government on certain matters (Administration of Education, Healthcare, Tourism, Fire and Rescue Services).
3. All Ryloth Citizens who travel to New Ryloth will be offered Employment in organised Agricultural Communes.
4. All Ryloth Citizens who work in Agricultural Communes will be paid a share of their crop by Agricultural Commune Manager, to be agreed once the harvested crop can be weighed in order to give the fairest possible share.
5. Dantooine Nationality shall be extended to all Citizens of New Ryloth, New Ryloth Citizenship is extended to all who complete their initial 5 year contract and either sign another contract for Agricultural Work or are able to prove they are able to work usefully on New Ryloth in a useful capacity.


Message edited by Jamie_the_Hutt - Wednesday, 12 May 2010, 2:03 PM
 
Simon_LeviDate: Wednesday, 12 May 2010, 2:00 PM | Message # 2
Major general
Group: Users
Messages: 395
Awards: 3
Reputation: -6
Status: Offline
For once.. I am lead to agree with the Senator from Dantooine, he is offering a fair and non-coercive offer to the people of Ryloth, allowing them to leave their frankly hellish homeland, and travel, freely without fear of enslavement to a world where they are able to gain nationality for only a reasonable commitment of agricultural work.

This allows all Twi'leks a new start, a fresh start away from the hellish conditions and corruption of their homeworld, away from archaic conditions and misery, into the modern era they may come, freely and without oppression, into a secular multi racial society!

I vote in favour of this progressive piece of legislation, and laud the Senator from Dantooine to allow a new homeworld to be founded for the Twi'leks in his system.


Moff of the Tammuz Sector
 
LomenRyuunDate: Wednesday, 12 May 2010, 4:26 PM | Message # 3
Lieutenant general
Group: Users
Messages: 696
Awards: 1
Reputation: 1
Status: Offline
Senator Tiure, I trust your new act to be in favor of the Twi'leks about as far as I can throw you, and I highly doubt I could even lift you.

It is my belief that New Republic aid directly to Ryloth would be far better than relocating them. Such an act would break apart family units, not to mention insult their warrior side, more than likely. Despite the harsh portions of their homeworld, it has forged them into a stronger people.

As well, with Senator Forte's permission, Druckenwell may send aid in the form of ships to ensure that any slavers are captured and brought to justice, so that, with time, slavery will no longer be profitable on Ryloth.

I vote against this measure.


Lomen Ryuun
Senator, Doldur Sector
Senator, Druckenwell
Representative, Monor II (10 BBY - 9 BBY)
Representative, Geridard
Representative, Boranall
Representative, Therenor Prime
Vice-chairman, Defense Committee (Temporarily suspended)
Controlling Shareholder - Druckenwell Arms Corporation
 
Jamie_the_HuttDate: Wednesday, 12 May 2010, 5:16 PM | Message # 4
Major general
Group: Users
Messages: 392
Awards: 0
Reputation: -4
Status: Offline
.With all due respect Senator Ryuun. Which is not much. This would break apart no family units! This would simply allow any who wish to leave a hellish nightmare to leave it, and work on a healthy green world, enjoy themselves in hot springs and explore breathtaking mountains. I do not propose to compel them to leave, for there may be some who enjoy living on a sunbleached wasteland full of ruins, cowering from rampaging monsters.. I plan to give the people of Ryloth an Alternative. An alternative to hell.

Forged into a stronger people be damned! You bandy such words about in such a pitiful way with no understanding of their meaning, how can you make romance of these atrocious circumstances? of this mass misery? Noone LIKES being "forged into a stronge people" noone enjoys untold millions of deaths from monsters and radiation.. cowering from every shadow for fear it is a slave ship!? How would you feel if it was you?

Even without slavers, it is still a nightmarish world, and why not give support to offering the people a way out, in a mutually profitable solution which allows them to rebuild a home on a more green and happy land, with few natural predators.

Mr Ryuun. Take a look at these two photos..

Would you rather live here..

Or here..

We now see how much love for his common beings Senator Ryuun has.. he would rather people be fleeing from Heat Storms, freezing to death, being pursued by ravenous creatures.. all in the name of "forging them into a strong warrior people" instead of giving them the chance to live in what is comparatively a paradise.

 
Tremaine_FowlkesDate: Wednesday, 12 May 2010, 7:56 PM | Message # 5
Colonel general
Group: Users
Messages: 881
Awards: 0
Reputation: 3
Status: Offline
I vote against the proposal.

Tremaine Fowlkes
Senator of Telos IV
 
Jamie_the_HuttDate: Wednesday, 12 May 2010, 8:31 PM | Message # 6
Major general
Group: Users
Messages: 392
Awards: 0
Reputation: -4
Status: Offline
May I ask why?
 
Johannes_OswaldtDate: Wednesday, 12 May 2010, 8:36 PM | Message # 7
Major general
Group: Users
Messages: 250
Awards: 0
Reputation: -3
Status: Offline
Isn't it obvious? Tremaine Fowlkes hates the people of Ryloth. Could it be that he and I agree on something?

Johannes Oswaldt
Senator and Governor of Eriadu
 
Tremaine_FowlkesDate: Wednesday, 12 May 2010, 9:09 PM | Message # 8
Colonel general
Group: Users
Messages: 881
Awards: 0
Reputation: 3
Status: Offline
After speaking with Senator Tiure in private to clarify this matter up, I believe this is a good offer for the people of Ryloth. His Act did not say that they had to force the Twi'leks off Ryloth. It simply offered the people there to relocate of their own choosing. I believe this could benefit both sides. This is a good gesture made by Senator Tiure. However, I also believe that because this concerns the people of Ryloth, Senator Forte should have a final say on this. Like Senator Ryuun said, it may insult their culture. Senator Forte is a leader of his people, I am pretty sure he will get to listen to his people about this act and proceed caution on this. I believe the people of Ryloth should have a final say on this. Which is why I feel this Act is good for them, because not only do they get help, but they don't even get forced into relocating. I change my vote to in favor, providing that Senator Forte have no problem with this of course.

Tremaine Fowlkes
Senator of Telos IV
 
Senator_CambristDate: Thursday, 13 May 2010, 2:18 AM | Message # 9
Lieutenant general
Group: Users
Messages: 761
Awards: 6
Reputation: -5
Status: Offline
Gentlemen, is there any greater a friend of the people of Ryloth, anywhere, than Senator Tiure? I daresay there is not. Here he has offered to them a world of opportunity, of peace, and of peace of mind. I agree with the Senator, also, that to a mother who has lost her child to the elements on Ryloth or—Force forfend!—to some monstrous creature, it is of no comfort to tell her, in her hour of grief, that Ryloth is a place for the strong and, by implication, that her child was unworthy. This, I believe, is a despicable argument to make against this generous measure that Senator Tiure has, today, proposed. I vote enthusiastically in favor, not so that the people of Ryloth will be compelled to leave their miserable, corrupt, and blighted world, but rather so that they have the choice to do so if they desire.

The choice, I believe, is clear. Compare the two holos below; one of them depicts the sort of monstrous beasts that are common to Ryloth, and the other is, as I understand it, one of the native species of Dantooine's second moon.








Message edited by Senator_Cambrist - Sunday, 16 May 2010, 4:21 PM
 
LomenRyuunDate: Thursday, 13 May 2010, 11:34 AM | Message # 10
Lieutenant general
Group: Users
Messages: 696
Awards: 1
Reputation: 1
Status: Offline
Senator Tiure, the practice which you are suggesting is sharecropping, which seems far too unstable to be used fairly. As well, it can be used as a form of control.

Furthermore, Senator, I would like to quote you from a prior statement you have made concerning Twi'leks and slavery:

"In order to maintain cultural diversity and recognize that different cultures have different accepted norms we must pass this act, and thus allow me to go and contract the 1,000 twi'leks of my choice without legal recourse. And they will be put into an idyllic life on my happy carniverous snail plantations on Dantooine."

I believe that was when you were proposing legalizing slavery.

Your words speak for themselves. I vote against.


Lomen Ryuun
Senator, Doldur Sector
Senator, Druckenwell
Representative, Monor II (10 BBY - 9 BBY)
Representative, Geridard
Representative, Boranall
Representative, Therenor Prime
Vice-chairman, Defense Committee (Temporarily suspended)
Controlling Shareholder - Druckenwell Arms Corporation
 
Jamie_the_HuttDate: Thursday, 13 May 2010, 11:49 AM | Message # 11
Major general
Group: Users
Messages: 392
Awards: 0
Reputation: -4
Status: Offline
If the people of Ryloth do not wish to come and work under this proposed system on New Ryloth, I am not forcing them to. It is voluntary and they are free to fly home at any time if they feel unhappy with their surroundings or conditions. Where does my legislation mention that this bill applies only to twi'leks? This bill is written for and intended for all good citizens of Ryloth, Twi'lek or otherwise. I feel it is highly discriminatory and racist to assume the Twi'leks are the only species.

The issue of slavery is irrelevant here. This bill does not allow for the legalisation of slavery! simply the rescue of poor innocent people. My personal views, while leaning towards a revisionist approach regarding indentured labour have little relevance on a motion to allow the Ryloth Rescue to take place.

 
LomenRyuunDate: Thursday, 13 May 2010, 12:06 PM | Message # 12
Lieutenant general
Group: Users
Messages: 696
Awards: 1
Reputation: 1
Status: Offline
Senator, I can only speculate on certain things. I cannot yet prove them, but rest assured I will do my best to.

However, I believe that any movement of Twi'leks, or for that matter, any beings from any planet, to a place under Dantooine's, which is to say your control, would be ill-advised. I would trust the measure if it were Senator vanden, or Senator fowlkes. I would even trust it if it were Senator cambrist, and that alone is saying a lot.

I simply do not believe you have any of their best interests in mind. Your legislation has far too many items where holes can be filled with vague promises. In effect, Senator Tiure, your proposal is too good to be true, at least on that surface, which leads me to believe something lurks beneath.


Lomen Ryuun
Senator, Doldur Sector
Senator, Druckenwell
Representative, Monor II (10 BBY - 9 BBY)
Representative, Geridard
Representative, Boranall
Representative, Therenor Prime
Vice-chairman, Defense Committee (Temporarily suspended)
Controlling Shareholder - Druckenwell Arms Corporation
 
Artemis_VandenDate: Sunday, 16 May 2010, 5:00 PM | Message # 13
Major general
Group: Users
Messages: 302
Awards: 0
Reputation: 2
Status: Offline
This measure strikes me as one that exploits a people who find themselves in desperate and dire circumstances by offering the alternative of less desperate, but no less dire circumstances. If this were truly a philanthropic measure, as Senator Tiure claims, there would be no need for the people of Ryloth to sign the terms and conditions on the "freedom" that he promises them. Freedom, Senators, should have no terms and conditions. I also agree with Senator Ryuun that there is good reason to doubt Senator Tiure's benevolence to the people of Ryloth, whom he has previously proposed to enslave and, I might add, to enslave them himself.

I've also been present in this chamber on more than one disgusting occasion on which the Senator from Dantoine has feasted on the corpses of Twi'leks. Here, too, the desperate circumstances of these Twi'leks was taken advantage of—exploited—by Senator Tiure. Here, too, they simply signed a contract promising them money and, in exchange, they are deprived of dignity in death.

This measure is worse, Senators, for it deprives these poor, desperate people of dignity in life. They will, essentially, be Senator Tiure's slaves; laboring on his property and doing as he tells them. This, the Senator will not deny, is what he has wanted all along. This is what he wanted when he proposed to enslave the Twi'leks, and this is what he wants now (though he no longer refers to it as "slavery").

If I agree at all with the Senator from Dantooine, it is that the Republic must, indeed, assist the people of Ryloth. Everyone in the Republic should have the opportunity to lead a free, peaceful and productive life. President Gavrisom understands this; he and General Calrissian recently assisted the people of Leirooine—another poor, blighted world—to relocate to new, fertile lands. This was done without terms and conditions, and I believe the same can be done for the people of Ryloth in a manner that does not exploit their suffering for commercial gain, as Senator Tiure proposes to do. At the same time, the Republic should also be helping to make Ryloth a better place for those who do not wish to leave it.

I realize that Senator Tiure's program is a private one, and that it does not truly require approval from the Senate to go forward. Nonetheless, I vote against, because I do not believe the New Republic should have anything to do with it.


Artemis Vanden
Representative of the Naboo
 
Johannes_OswaldtDate: Sunday, 16 May 2010, 5:58 PM | Message # 14
Major general
Group: Users
Messages: 250
Awards: 0
Reputation: -3
Status: Offline
Only the people of Ryloth could possibly be dumb enough to live on Ryloth. I have no sympathy for them; they could leave the planet if they wanted to, and there are plenty of places they could go—as long as it's not Eriadu.

Johannes Oswaldt
Senator and Governor of Eriadu
 
Cul-utaanForteDate: Sunday, 16 May 2010, 8:38 PM | Message # 15
Colonel
Group: Users
Messages: 150
Awards: 0
Reputation: -10
Status: Offline
Now that the speciests of the Senate have had their fun, I ask that Senator Tiure produce to the Senate the contract he is proposing in full detail for the Senate to review.

General Cul'utaan'forte
Forte's Legion
 
  • Page 1 of 2
  • 1
  • 2
  • »
Search:


Copyright MyCorp © 2024
Create a free website with uCoz