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Embaril Requests Entry
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| WarhawkMcCray | Date: Tuesday, 11 Oct 2011, 4:11 AM | Message # 1 |
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| I am a plain speaking man. I would like to request entry on the behalf of my people.
I have little time for plesentries or the politiking I am told goes on here, but with the Cronese Mandate building up its fleets I feel I have no choice but to be represented here.
Alexander "Warhawk" McCray
Earl of Embaril
Thane of Brightdeen
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| Ilanah_Thanatos | Date: Wednesday, 12 Oct 2011, 4:23 PM | Message # 2 |
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| So you are seeking entry to the Imperial Senate because you feel threatened? Is that the only reason?
Please forgive me for interrupting your busy schedule with my questions, by the way.
Ilanah R. Thanatos
Senator of Chandrila
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| LordZarcaine | Date: Wednesday, 12 Oct 2011, 6:10 PM | Message # 3 |
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| Mr. Goodchild has his own questions for the prospective Senator that would be representing Embaril.
"Mr. McCray If you're joining the Senate just because you feel threatened that the Mandate is going to attack, which we will not being doing, nor would we or do we have any reason to take such actions against Embaril, I must ask, what will happen to the 3% of your population, that indentify themselves as Cronese. Would we be permitted to come to Embaril space so that we may relocate them into the Mandate, or would they not be allowed such relocation?"
Lord Zarcaine Kuriyoshi
Lord of Chandaar
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| WarhawkMcCray | Date: Wednesday, 12 Oct 2011, 10:07 PM | Message # 4 |
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| May I repent to ye if I offended both of you fine beautiful ladies! I mean no insult to yourselves.
Aye, I admit we are petitioning because we feel now is the time for our voice to be heard ah kin?
Y' ships would under no circumstances be allowed into Embaril Space, y'Crony. I hardly think many would want to leave the rolling beauty of Embaril for the fetid dens of inequity which form much of the Cronese Mandate, if they did want to leave then they know the way to the spaceport and can take a private transport flight. Embaril ain't Cronese!
Alexander "Warhawk" McCray
Earl of Embaril
Thane of Brightdeen
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| LordZarcaine | Date: Wednesday, 12 Oct 2011, 10:48 PM | Message # 5 |
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| "Mr. McCray, it would go along way in helping you secure your position if you did not insult other Senators merely for their questions. I would however request the Chair place a hold on the admission of the Embaril Representative to the Senate until the Cronese Mandate is able to relocate those families and their family members on Embaril that consider themselves Cronese on the grounds of fearing for the lives of those families and their members that consider themselves Cronese, and a possible back lash they might experience. As it is clear that the Government of Embrail is openly showing hostility against those that are Cronese. We have already made a broadcast informing those families on Embaril that consider themselves Cronese of the possibility of the threat to themselves and their families, and have offered them Cronese Mandate Citizenship, thus making those families on Embaril that see themselves as Cronese full citizens of the Mandate. We'd also like it noted by the Senate, that refusal of Embaril in allowing Mandate ships to arrive and safely escort our citizens off of Embaril and back to Mandate space would be seen as nothing short of Embaril holding Mandate hostages."
Lord Zarcaine Kuriyoshi
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| WarhawkMcCray | Date: Wednesday, 12 Oct 2011, 10:54 PM | Message # 6 |
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| I am not insulting you! I would never insult such a fair and beautiful lady as yourself, may I beg your most humble apology if I have done so ma'am.
I have hired a bulk ship to carry off those who wish to leave tomorrow - Embaril is a world of the free, of the brave - if people want to bugger off then good luck to them.
Any who take the Cronese citizenship will be considered foreign citizens and if they cannot meet the immigration controls will be deported too.
Alexander "Warhawk" McCray
Earl of Embaril
Thane of Brightdeen
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| LordZarcaine | Date: Wednesday, 12 Oct 2011, 11:13 PM | Message # 7 |
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| "The Cronese 101st Fleet will be standing by to take over the escort duty of the bulk ship into Mandate space. I warn the future representative of Embaril, if any passenger on the ship is harmed, it will constitute an act of aggression towards the Mandate and will be responded to in the proper way."
Lord Zarcaine Kuriyoshi
Lord of Chandaar
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| WarhawkMcCray | Date: Wednesday, 12 Oct 2011, 11:35 PM | Message # 8 |
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| I have no intention of harming your people, there would be little honour in killing men so fragile and weak. There will be no crimes against them - we're pleased you are taking them off our hands.
Alexander "Warhawk" McCray
Earl of Embaril
Thane of Brightdeen
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| LordZarcaine | Date: Thursday, 13 Oct 2011, 0:08 AM | Message # 9 |
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| Mr. Goodchild would speak with one of the new aides that had been brought up before he spoke once more.
"The Mandate is willing to vote for the entrance of Embaril into the Senate, as they have shown the willing to return citizens of the Mandate to their ancestral homes of their family lines that they could trace back. We would though request that the Chair seek caution with Embaril and place it with a Ninety day probationary acceptance, as the future representative has stated that he has "little time or pleasantries for politicking of the Senate" This is not meant to punish Embaril, yet to help the future representative learn how the Senate works."Added (13 Oct 2011, 1:08 Am)
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Mr. Goodchild would be handed an urgent message by an Aide as he looked over it.
"Senators, the Cronese Mandate must withdraw its approval of accepting Embaril into the Senate. I have just been given a message that has informed me that Cronese Refugees that had just been given Cronese Mandate citizenship have died in the custody of Embaril. The Cronese Mandate request that the chair bar Embaril's acceptance into the Senate until the Mandate is allowed to look into the events as well as complete a thorough report on the incident."
Lord Zarcaine Kuriyoshi
Lord of Chandaar
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| WarhawkMcCray | Date: Thursday, 13 Oct 2011, 1:17 AM | Message # 10 |
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| The ship in question is in your custody and your Space Mr Goodchild, you are welcome to conduct an investigation onboard. The people of Embaril have no responsibility which appears to be a tragic accident by the shipping company. - Indeed as you point out not one Embaril Citizen was aboard.
The Company responsible - TionTrans is based out of Lianna and has informed my Government (as the chartering company) that it will pay full restitution to the people aboard as per it's conditions of travel. The company instructs me that the cause was the accidental depression of an emergency bulkhead opening subsystem during maintenance and have compiled for me a copy of their investigation and all the logs from systems aboard.
I call for an Independent investigation into the matter - free of the taint of the Cronies.
Deeply sad, none of my world's fault or responsibility.
Alexander "Warhawk" McCray
Earl of Embaril
Thane of Brightdeen
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| Verence_Terrawin | Date: Thursday, 13 Oct 2011, 3:48 AM | Message # 11 |
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| Come now, Earl McCray has explained the accident. If the people of the Mandate are already unpopular I would suggest that obstructing Embaril's right to representation in the Senate only is likely to increase that hatred. Mr Goodchild should be less quick to cast blame before an investigation is done into the matter.
While the matter is regrettable I do not see it as pertinent to the matter at hand, surely nobody is alleging Mr McCray is the instigator of this accident? If they are not then these events have no bearing on Earl McCray's suitability to be in the Senate.
I express my regrets to the friends and families involved for their losses.
Verence Terrawin
Senator of Alsakan
First Lord of the Foreign Office, Alsakan
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| Senator_Ordan | Date: Thursday, 13 Oct 2011, 3:55 AM | Message # 12 |
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| I believe this is a provocative action by the Cronese Mandate intended only to justify a war on Embaril and the Tionese more generally.
Look at the facts:
- Many worlds in the Cronese Mandate were enthusiastic members of the Confederacy.
- They build a massive fleet.
- They upset their neighbors.
- They have provoked a border dispute with a neighbor..
- Rebel publications back them...
What next? Moving ships to Embaril to "protect" the ethnic Cronese on Embaril? Troops on the ground to protect their homes?
I believe the Cronese Mandate is becoming a rogue power, a neo-Confederate state, and this concerns me.
Senator Hubert Ordan
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| LordZarcaine | Date: Thursday, 13 Oct 2011, 8:41 AM | Message # 13 |
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| ((okay, so I didn't answer Ordan's last accusation because I had a question. How would an Imperial like Ordan have open access to a Separatist/Rebellion channel like the Shadowfeed unless he were in turn a Separatist/Rebel.))
Mr. McCray answer this question, if you truely are not at fault, did these Refugees die while in your custody, yes or no.
As for your acusations Senator Ordan, what would you call enthusiastic members of the Confederacy, two worlds on the edges of Mandate space that joined, I'd hardly call that many worlds. Our fleets were built to provide for the security and safety of our people, we made no actions to upset our neighbors, beyond the fact that we are Cronese and history has shown a rivalry between the Tionese and Cronese, yet it would appear that only the Tionese have shown any great hatred towards our people. We have provoked no border dispute, we were deprived of offering safe passage to our own citizens by the Government of Embaril, and lives were lost. We have no plans, nor wants to land any troops on Embaril, we merely want answers to give to those that have lost loved ones this day.
Lord Zarcaine Kuriyoshi
Lord of Chandaar
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| Senator_Ordan | Date: Thursday, 13 Oct 2011, 12:54 PM | Message # 14 |
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| Because Ordan is a man who runs his planet's foreign affairs, its silly to pretend he wouldn't have sleeper agents in all of the Anaxsi Rebel groups and so be able to get a copy of all public shadowfeed comms through them - its a newsletter, hardly highly classified)
So far as I am aware Mr McCray identifies as "Embarilite" not Cronese or Tionese - from a man in a Clan based society I hardly think petty differences in Sector make much difference - an outsider is an outsider.
If you want my professional legal advice (as one of the foremost legal experts in the Senate) for Mr McCray then I would advise him his government is not responsible. For the following reasons:
1. The incident was not in Embaril Space but in Deep Space/Cronese Space - the only Embaril citizens involved had been those flying the loading shuttles which were by all accounts safely used.
2. The incident involved none of his citizens - a third party clearly had custody.
3. Just because you purchase another adult passage does not mean you are "custodian" or responsible for them during their passage.
Say I see a poor man on Anaxes and decide to fly him to have a job on Axum. I purchase him passage on a shuttle. The shuttle has a reactor malfunction and explodes. Do I have responsibility? Absolutely not. This is the same situation and a simple contract law problem - the responsibility lies with the third party. Should this come to court I would be prepared to represent Mr McCray pro bono publica, such is my confidence that the Cronese are talking nonsense.
If you buy a friend his mag-lev train ticket and the train crashes, can he sue you? Of course not, same principle.
Senator Hubert Ordan
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| LordZarcaine | Date: Thursday, 13 Oct 2011, 10:02 PM | Message # 15 |
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| Accident or not, the Government of Embaril was warned that if any harm came to the Refugees they would be held responsible and that it would be seen as an act of Aggression against those of Cronese descent. As such, the Cronese Mandate has issued a Trade Embargo baring any and all vessels bound for Embaril from entering Madnate space, as well as warning those vessels that are still in Mandate space after the deadline to leave has been reached will be considered smugglers and will be dealt with in the proper boundaries of the law. The Cronese Mandate will keep its vote standing against the allowance of Embaril from joining the Senate as it has been shown that they are only seeking such admission from fear alone. I'm also surprised that Senator Ordan would take a quick liking to Mr. McCray considering the Senators history and views on small planets such as Embrail.
Lord Zarcaine Kuriyoshi
Lord of Chandaar
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