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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Friday, 29 Jun 2012, 1:23 PM | Message # 16 |
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| Toben-Domon | Date: Friday, 29 Jun 2012, 1:23 PM | Message # 17 |
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| I am privy to a marked lack of details, Senator Oriel. I am privy to the fact that still none of the Sluis Van engineers have been able to contact Sluis Van or their superiors. I may infer certain things, but it still stands that no word has been sent back, nor have any of our attempts to contact the engineers been successful. In essence, you have our people isolated on Vjun with no chance of us speaking to them.
However, I will await the judge's ruling.
Toben Domon
Senator, Sluis Van
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| Bernard_Oriel | Date: Friday, 29 Jun 2012, 2:32 PM | Message # 18 |
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| The Vjunite Justice of the Peace for Bitter End issued an arrest warrant this morning for the Sluissi Engineers present after witnesses came forward alledging a weapon had been planted aboard the Vjun Corvette Fyrdracca.
The Sluissi crew were given a full trial before the Justice and chose to represent themselves. After witnesses were produced against them, the leader of the plot confessed when he was last aboard he placed the device with the knowledge of his men who had helped produce the unit, all the other Sluissi present indicated their guilt and the fact that they were part of an organized plot by unknown "higher ups" on Sluis Van.
After their signed confession was made, they were executed in line with the guilty verdict of the Judge and the sentence carried out within the court building before sunset. Their remains were committed to the Bay of Tears. All Sluissi ships are instructed to forever abjure Vjunite air and space within the hour or face forcible eviction, the Fleet has been placed on full alert.
Bernard Oriel
Senator for the Planet of Vjun
1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation)
Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
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| Toben-Domon | Date: Friday, 29 Jun 2012, 2:37 PM | Message # 19 |
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| I have sent orders to he captain currently crewing the vessel above Vjun to depart immediately. However, I would like to see the proof of this alleged confession, Senator Oriel. If I may be frank, there's nothing in the Vjun System that Sluis Van could possibly want. Nonetheless, an investigation will be launched to ensure the Sluissi government is not engaging in unauthorized or treasonous activities against other systems.
Toben Domon
Senator, Sluis Van
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| Bernard_Oriel | Date: Friday, 29 Jun 2012, 2:42 PM | Message # 20 |
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| *A copy of the confession, along with fully independently authenticated DNA evidence and finger print scans from the paper and bomb matching the Sluissi executed was transmitted to Sluis Van.*
A copy has been sent to you Mr Domon.
Perhaps you sought to undermine our commitment to our allies, some of whom may be less than supportive of your Khedive's Tyanny over the human inhabitants of your Sector.
Bernard Oriel
Senator for the Planet of Vjun
1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation)
Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
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| Senator_Cambrist | Date: Friday, 29 Jun 2012, 4:29 PM | Message # 21 |
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| I must state, on behalf of the people of Brentaal, our dismay at this shocking turn of events. That agents provocateur would sabotage the good ship Fyrdracca of Vjun, in furtherance of Sluis Van's nefarious interests or, perhaps, the interests of the Sluissi race, is all too possible (if not probable). This reptilian scheme, chillingly described in the Sluissi suspect's confession, is shocking. And the fact that there's no apparent humanly-comprehensible motive for Sluis Van to do this is all the more reason for all of us to be worried; who's next?
At this hour, the Brentaal Union of Sluissi Ship Workers has been dissolved on the order of the government, which has empowered shipwrights and other industries of national importance to suspend Sluissi employees without warning or cause while such assessments of their character are conducted as are deemed necessary to re-assure the employer of their loyalty to Brentaal. The government has also commenced the issuance of letters of marque to Brentaal privateers to operate in the Vjun System in defense of the planet and its people (with the consent and cooperation of Senator Oriel's government, of course).
Vjun has long been a bulwark of humanism on the Outer Rim and Brentaal will not hesitate to commit additional forces to defend the planet in the event of hostilities.
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| Draken_Turot | Date: Friday, 29 Jun 2012, 6:49 PM | Message # 22 |
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| Senator Domon!
Are ANY types of background checks conducted when considering individuals for employment?! This is indeed an outrage and a slap in the face to Vjun as well as the Empire!!! If one planet is a target, then who knows who else is going to be victimized!!! As of this moment, Sluis vessels are NOT authorized in the Red Twin systems without the authorization from myself! I will not allow Acherin citizens to face the dreadful fate that your rogue agents have caused to those on Vjun! Should any of your vessels appear, they will be automatically turned away, and should they not, I will authorize lethal force as well as the taking of prisoners! And also, I am taking MY design from you and will contract another loyal source!!
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| Toben-Domon | Date: Saturday, 30 Jun 2012, 9:43 AM | Message # 23 |
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| *Domon studied the so-called confession for a long period of time in silence until he was fully ready.*
"I do not believe the validity of these statements, Senator Oriel. All we have to take is the word of a Vjun judicial proceeding in which non contact was allowed with the prisoners, no arbiter from Sluis Van was allowed, no recording of the proceedings. All we have, Senator, is your word that this piece of paper is real. The last line, even, speaks of falsehood. "I beg for divine clemency;" Rassk Vissk was not a believer in any divine forces. He believed in science and engineering and technology and openly eschewed and even mocked religious beliefs, much to the annoyance of some.
Trying to turn this into an anti-Human campaign will not work, Senator Oriel. The Khedive is supported by the great majority of the Human population of the Sluis Sector, as well as the Sluissi population.
Governor-General Tu'Rot, there are constant background checks that are run through the Imperial offices on Sluis Van for any Sluissi holding positions of great responsibility, as well as through our own systems. You are more than welcome to your design; I fear having Separatist connotations meant that it did not sell as well as expected and we were planning to retire it this year in favor of an improved design.
Fortunately, gentlebeings of the Senate, this will not come to bloodshed. Pending consultation with Khedive Thisst, there may be economic sanctions levied against Vjunite goods in the Sluis Sector and I fully intend to see that an investigation is conducted by Imperial authorities into this farce of a trial.
Toben Domon
Senator, Sluis Van
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| Bernard_Oriel | Date: Saturday, 30 Jun 2012, 1:36 PM | Message # 24 |
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| Senator Domon
Do not attempt to falsely characterize me as "anti-alien", I am a prominent moderate who, against the advice of many, pushed to allow Sluis Van to take up the contract with our fledgling navy. I was told that Aliens cannot be trusted and I am sad to say that the detracts of the Sluissi were indeed right in this, the Government of Sluis Van has embarked upon a conspiracy against it's customers to deprive a human world of it's defensive capacity.
I don't know of Mr Vissk's religion, but may I say that I have been in combat and it's surprising the lengths a being will go to if he feels it may spare him death. Again may I repeat that the confession and pen in question bear the fingerprints and DNA of the Sluissi in question, as do the bomb they planted, I have had this authenticated by local Imperial Medical Staff from a local Imperial Medical Unit.
I demand repayment of the debt the Sluissi owe us for such an infraction and also urge all human worlds to consider if they wish to continue using products produced by aliens who have now openly been proven to be engaged in duplicity against honest customers. We demand repayment for the ship, all work done on it since and a compensation of 25,000,000 Credits (1,000,000 for each Sluissi Agent). In order to demonstrate our intention to seek a fair outcome not personal profit we announce that all credits returned to Vjun will be donated to local charities.
Bernard Oriel
Senator for the Planet of Vjun
1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation)
Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
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| Toben-Domon | Date: Tuesday, 03 Jul 2012, 10:39 AM | Message # 25 |
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| Senator Oriel,
If I may be frank, Vjun's naval forces are not so powerful that if we had wanted to attack your world, we would have done so directly and without issue. However, Sluis Van and Vjun have never had reason to quarrel and we are not warlike beings.
I am knowledgeable of the fact that fingerprints and DNA can be falsified, placed against a being's will or otherwise 'arranged' to incriminate a being in a certain crime. I will not simply take it at your word that he confessed, largely due to a lack of any personnel who were not of Vjunite origin being present at the trial, aside from the Sluissi who are now deceased.
I see no need to repay you for a ship you rightfully purchased. You are free to keep the corvette, along with all the work completed on on the refit corvette, which had yet to be paid for. The cruiser, which you had not paid for, along with the fighters you had not paid for either yet, were repossessed. I might add that if you are seeking monies for 'Sluissi agents' then I can pay none, for there were only engineers. If anything, I find it distasteful that Sluis Van would pay for their deceased. If anything, depending on the outcome of this farce, you may be paying the families of the deceased, Senator Oriel.
Toben Domon
Senator, Sluis Van
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| Harald_Lennon | Date: Tuesday, 03 Jul 2012, 11:33 AM | Message # 26 |
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| Bernard_Oriel | Date: Tuesday, 03 Jul 2012, 11:35 AM | Message # 27 |
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| Senator Domon,
Vjun states it's confidence in the ability of it's military to defeat the Sluissi Navy even in a head-on assault, especially with the aid of our allies from Acherin.
Your persecution complex and conspiracy theories sicken me. Any criticism of you or your world throws up allegations of misanthropic racism, and yet you yourself make publically anti-human comments; and criticize a legal system which has stood since time immemorial and is drawn from the Ancient Core legal systems, upon which most human worlds base their justice.
Which cruisers and fighters is Sluis Van referring to?
Vjun will not pay a credit to Sluis Van, and we re-state our demand for compensation.
Bernard Oriel
Senator for the Planet of Vjun
1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation)
Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
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| Toben-Domon | Date: Tuesday, 03 Jul 2012, 11:49 AM | Message # 28 |
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| Senator Oriel,
Persecution is an odd word for you to be using considering even the basic rights of every being, such as that to contact their consulate or higher-ups were denied to our engineer team. All we have is Vjun's word that the engineers undertook this heinous crime and Vjun's word that a signed confession and DNA points to them as the culprits. I would request seeing holo-footage of the trial itself, the evidence that led to the conviction and I will cross-reference this with information from the cruiser's captain who recently returned to Sluis Van.
The cruiser I refer to is the Scorpius-class, along with a squadron of Arsix-class fighters.
Sluis Van will not pay a credit to Vjun until irrefutable proof is shown that our engineers undertook this terrible deed. Once proof is given of guilt or innocence, then you will find me to be a more understanding being.
Toben Domon
Senator, Sluis Van
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| Bernard_Oriel | Date: Tuesday, 03 Jul 2012, 12:10 PM | Message # 29 |
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| Senator Domon,
In the Vjunite legal system there is no "right to contact your consulate or higher ups", you are permitted to have a member of the Bar appointed by the Court pass communications for you, however, arrested men have no right to contact anyone aside from through their Barister. This was enacted in statute some 15,000 years ago in order to aid the prevention of organized crime: the Barister who passes the messages has the responsibility for those messages and criminal culpability if there was any attempt at further criminality or to pervert the course of Justice.
When asked if they wished to have the court appoint a member of the Bar, they refused, instead wishing to represent themselves and forfeiting the right to pass on communications outside the court. The trial was not holo-filmed, no cameras are allowed within Vjunite courtrooms.
Allow me to quote the Republic (now Imperial) Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 53 states, "Except as otherwise provided by a statute or these rules, the court must not permit the taking of holographs in the courtroom during judicial proceedings or the broadcasting of judicial proceedings from the courtroom."
All Vjunite trials involving planetary security issues are held In camera, in order to protect the interests of the world. Naturally, as this matter involved considerable detail of technical sub-systems and interior details of Vjunite Warships, the Justice involved chose to hear the case in this format, as is right and proper. This is laid down in Vjunite statute and is common practice across the known galaxy.
The proceedings are recorded by the clerk of the court. These stenographers records can be made available if you wish, they are available for public perusal or copying at the Bitter End Public Record Office.
Vjun never purchased a Scorpius-class vessel or Arsix Fighters. Perhaps the reason they were not paid for (a laughable idea from a world with such unimpeachable credit as Vjun) is that the order for them was never placed.
We condemn the statements of Senator Domon attacking our legal system as anything less than free, fair and just.
Bernard Oriel
Senator for the Planet of Vjun
1st Earl Malreaux (Second Creation)
Vjun Delegation to the Imperial Senate
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| Toben-Domon | Date: Tuesday, 03 Jul 2012, 12:25 PM | Message # 30 |
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| Senator Oriel,
All Vjunite legal processes aside, whether I agree with them or not, certain facts do exist. Let me ask you, were the engineers aware of the fact that if they chose representation from Vjun that they would be allowed to have communications outside the court?
Furthermore, Senator, if I may point your attention to our communications, you will see that Vjun did place an order for the fighters and the cruiser. Perhaps it is less than a laughable idea?
Toben Domon
Senator, Sluis Van
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