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Druckenwellian Colonialism
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| Verence_Terrawin | Date: Friday, 21 Sep 2012, 5:16 AM | Message # 1 |
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| Gentlebeings of the Senate,
I would like to propose a vote of condemnation of the shameless Druckenwellian attempt to coerce and blackmail a less powerful world in its sector for no greater reason than profit. We've all read the "Ryuun Transcripts" doing the rounds of the Coreward media and I think it's particularly shocking that a world that's subscribed to the principles of an alignment dedicated to peace and cooperation has now taken a U turn and attempted to coerce it's neighbors in such a shocking manner.
Sure, the Monorians may have an eccentric religion, but when can you last remember a Monorian ever attempting to take over another world? Never. That's because the people of Monor II are a peaceful group who are merely seeking to protect themselves from the rampant consumer capitalism of worlds such as Druckenwell. They've signaled themselves willing to allow the exploitation of their natural wealth to continue within the currently pre-defined limits so why is it in the interest of this Empire to sit back and let the Druckenwellians exploit Monor II, not even for the profit of the greater Empire - no such "lofty" motive as that, but just to enrich his world.
The Alsakan Aegis Fleet has dispatched an advanced team from the Alsakan Journalistic Corps with embedded members from all the major Core Networks to continue to cover developments on Monor II and await the deployment of further assets should they be necessary to prevent Druckenwell from impinging upon the Sovereignty of Monor II.
Verence Terrawin
Senator of Alsakan
First Lord of the Foreign Office, Alsakan
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| LomenRyuun | Date: Friday, 21 Sep 2012, 5:31 AM | Message # 2 |
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| Hardly coercion and blackmail, Senator. I believe you're not focusing on the issue at hand here. Monor II, an alien-run world, took offense and requested exemption from the proposed Imperial Flag Bill. Despite offering them good sense in return, stating reasons why they could not be exempt, the overly-religious Monorian Priest-Prince opted to sever the Monor Accords with Druckenwell.
At present, the operations from Druckenwell result in sixty percent of all cirrifog contributions to the Empire. While the loss of cirrifog would hardly be detrimental to Druckenwell's economy, it is largely a matter of principle. If Monor II agrees to sell back the patents to the current lot type of synthetic cirrifog, Druckenwell will happily part company with Monor II. Furthermore, I have been in contact with Chairman Pestage, and my actions are not simply unsanctioned. They are from his lips to my ears to be heard by Priest-Prince Agapos IX.
If you're referring to the alteration within the Monor Accords, that's hardly blackmail, Senator. It's compensation for workers, time spent and resources utilized to move the Cardan station to the borders of the Monor System, as well as compensation for the new lot type of cirrifog our scientists must now work to produce.
That being said, Alsakan is welcome to observe Monor II for as long as they wish.
Lomen Ryuun
Senator, Doldur Sector
Senator, Druckenwell
Representative, Monor II (10 BBY - 9 BBY)
Representative, Geridard
Representative, Boranall
Representative, Therenor Prime
Vice-chairman, Defense Committee (Temporarily suspended)
Controlling Shareholder - Druckenwell Arms Corporation
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Friday, 21 Sep 2012, 5:40 AM | Message # 3 |
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| They're just overly religious non-Humans, Terrawin. Why does it seem like your media feels the need to go poking about everywhere and try to make headlines, explode things that aren't even necessary to toy with? Well, it's your media. How you run it is none of my concern, even if it does make a farce of things.
I don't see any blackmail here, myself. I've read the transcripts between Senator Ryuun and this Agapos fellow. Seems like they're being quite unreasonable to me, honestly. Someone may as well nip this in the bud before it gets out of hand.
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| Verence_Terrawin | Date: Friday, 21 Sep 2012, 5:45 AM | Message # 4 |
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| Monor II is a world which has long been a member of the Empire, and prior to that the Republic. So far as I am aware it did not attempt to secede during the Clone Wars. Can your world say the same? The Priest Prince of Monor II has absolute right to conduct his diplomacy as he sees fit, he is the sovereign prince of Monor II as you yourselves recognize in having "accords" with him. By all accounts the Theocracy of Monor II is backwards, that is no excuse to abuse its people by forcing them to sign unequal contracts with menaces.
You cannot force Monor II to sell rights it owns (that you sold them) for a process that (while vastly uneconomical compared to "organic" cirrifog extraction) produces a synthesis of their natural atmosphere. I've spoken to Agapos who is more than willing to move your station at his own expense, so why the "need" to hold hostage a smaller and weaker world?
Where does this end? The annexation of Falleen? The invasion of Queel?
Senator Ryuun, it is simply inappropriate for one world in a sector to attempt to dominate it's neighbors, especially a world with such a questionable recent past as Druckenwell. Taking over worlds to exploit their resources was a popular tactic of the Confederacy of Independent Systems, of which Druckenwell was a member, I realize you've strongly attempted to distance your own policy from your worlds shameful past, but you must see that your high words are now being put to the test.
Your "allies" the Sluissi run their shipyards around their religious preconceptions.. why should your other allies the Sunesi not be free to do the same. I'd like to see Senator Toben Domon's input on this one. Surely, Senator Domon will agree that it's inappropriate for one world (that is not and has never been the Sector Capital) to attempt to exert hegemony over a weaker alien species - merely in this case for profit.
Cirrifog still flows from the Sunesi manned plants on Monor II, and all current contracts are being fulfilled. Why then does Druckenwell have any right to anything from Monor II? If you have been in correspondence with the Chair of the Senate, I urge you to publish your "backroom dealings" (if they exist at all) that sanctify your abuse of the relationship with Monor II.
Do you feel threats with menaces contradict the spirit of the RimSec agreement Senator Ryuun?
Verence Terrawin
Senator of Alsakan
First Lord of the Foreign Office, Alsakan
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| LomenRyuun | Date: Friday, 21 Sep 2012, 6:04 AM | Message # 5 |
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| Attempting, as many do, to try and bring up Druckenwell's past transgressions during the Clone Wars wins you no points, Senator. It's an overplayed, overused argument that's rather worn out. I've hardly asked them to sign an unequal contract; if you viewed the holo, you'd be able to note that by and large, only three points were modified in the Monor Accords. Furthermore, if the Monor Accords are now defunct, I believe that the property mentioned in said accords, the rights to that specific lot type of cirrifog, would revert back to the original owner.
Now, granted, the current method of cirrifog synthesis is not economically helpful. Profits to Druckenwell would be more than halved if we were to continue solely along the synthetic process. Fortunately, we have a new silent partner who is willing to help with that issue, but that does not pertain directly to this problem.
In regards to our other neighbors, Druckenwell has never had any issues, and is actually on quite good terms with all worlds in the Doldur Sector, save, in this case, Monor II. As such, an invasion of Queel and annexing Falleen are simply fallacies that could be akin to fear-mongering.
As for the Sluissi? I don't know nor can I say if they run their shipyards around religious dogma or not. I do know, however, they haven't tried to breach a contract simply because they wish their religion to stand above all others and be held exempt from certain rules.
My conversation with the Chairman will become public at his permission, and I await that permission before opening the conversation between us to the public.
Threats with menaces, Senator? Simply because I pass on the words of another doesn't mean I'm threatening them. It's a warning. I hardly wish to see Monor II in dire straits any more than any other world. The point stands that they need to progress from their backwards religion to the present-day Imperial views.
Lomen Ryuun
Senator, Doldur Sector
Senator, Druckenwell
Representative, Monor II (10 BBY - 9 BBY)
Representative, Geridard
Representative, Boranall
Representative, Therenor Prime
Vice-chairman, Defense Committee (Temporarily suspended)
Controlling Shareholder - Druckenwell Arms Corporation
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| Verence_Terrawin | Date: Friday, 21 Sep 2012, 6:30 AM | Message # 6 |
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| Agapos seems willing enough to sell Alsakan these rights (which he legally bought off you), I'm sure that it can be arranged for the Druckenwellians to litigate through the formal legal channels if they feel the transfer of ownership is in some regard illegal. Transactions are transactions, and the revocation of a contract was never a term to the sale - as such your claims are simply bunk.
Frankly, I don't give a damn for this "Synthetic Cirrifog" but I'd rather the rights of indigenous peoples everywhere were protected by the Core in a show of Noblesse Oblige, than allowing pirate capitalism such as Druckenwell has fallen in love with.
If you are not threatening Monor II and the Sunesi, Senator Ryuun, then you will have no problem with the deployment of relevant Alsakan assets to guarantee the world's sovereignty and secure it's people from any threats you might seek to impose.
We've opened up channels so that the Coreward Universities such as those on Alsakan might study Cirrifog and it's synthesis in a manner which is mutually profitable to the Sunesi and to all the Empire.
This can -only- regarded as Blackmail with the intention to impose an unequal treaty. In protest at Druckenwell's filing of a motion that sought to infringe upon a tradition, they severed relations. In reply they received a menacing communication informing them that if they wished to remain friends that Druckenwell would be seeking extremely one-sided terms.
Agapos is a reasonable being, I've spoken to him and he has a good deal more humility and decency than many a human I have met in these chambers; he deserves better than to be held hostage by an abusive third rate power.
Verence Terrawin
Senator of Alsakan
First Lord of the Foreign Office, Alsakan
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| Senator_Ordan | Date: Friday, 21 Sep 2012, 6:57 AM | Message # 7 |
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| I think everyone is overestimating the import of Druckenwell/Monor II/The Doldur Sector.
If Alsakan wishes to stride into the Doldur Sector, like a giant among pygmies, then let it.
I don't even know where Monor II is on a galactic map, and I treasure that ignorance, I certainly don't care if it's attempting to become a petty colonial power. What this all highlights starkly is the ineffective nature of rimward alignments such as "RimSec", being that the total membership of that organization could be out produced by some Core Worlds (Alsakan among them).
I do, though, condemn Alsakan's involvement as it seems to grant the pygmies rather too much attention; we cannot help but question the wisdom of a Coreward superpower becoming quite so concerned with the minutiae of the relationship between two insignificant Rimward worlds. Frankly, I can't help but wonder if this is the start of a wider spread of Alsakan hegemony in the region?
Senator Hubert Ordan
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| Toben-Domon | Date: Friday, 21 Sep 2012, 8:19 AM | Message # 8 |
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| I'm not quite clear what you'd like my views on, Senator Terrawin. The Sluissi run Sluis Van Shipyards with artistic precision, not with any religious observations and we do not allow any form of personal beliefs to get in the way of progress and business.
Toben Domon
Senator, Sluis Van
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| Verence_Terrawin | Date: Friday, 21 Sep 2012, 8:26 AM | Message # 9 |
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| Perhaps Sluis Van will join me in Guaranteeing the Sovereignty of Monor II, to whom Sluis Van is allied.
Verence Terrawin
Senator of Alsakan
First Lord of the Foreign Office, Alsakan
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| LomenRyuun | Date: Friday, 21 Sep 2012, 8:29 AM | Message # 10 |
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| Of course the alien is willing to sell to you, Terrawin. You've likely promised him some form of aide against Druckenwell, not unlike what you've done in the past. I'm curious to see what kind of back door deals you have with Agapos.
I certainly do have a problem with Alsakan deploying forces to the Doldur Sector. Is Alsakan the galactic police now, here to supersede the Empire? The last time I checked, Monor II had its own defensive craft. I tend to agree with Senator Ordan in the fact that Alsakan seems to be throwing its influence towards the Outer Rim. Perhaps you would be better served keeping to your own borders.
The terms were hardly one-sided as well. Druckenwell barely modified the terms in their entire. I'd hardly call that one-sided or menacing.
Either way, the most Druckenwell truly loses is the rights to a batch type of cirrifog. It's no great loss to us. It's the point that is to be made that stands here: alien races who contribute to the Empire can't simply up and quit when something doesn't go their way. Oh, sure, sure, no doubt Agapos will have now folded his cards somehow because he's sucked into Alsakan dealings, but odds are that as soon as one alien extremist pulls a stunt to get his way, others will certainly follow.
Lomen Ryuun
Senator, Doldur Sector
Senator, Druckenwell
Representative, Monor II (10 BBY - 9 BBY)
Representative, Geridard
Representative, Boranall
Representative, Therenor Prime
Vice-chairman, Defense Committee (Temporarily suspended)
Controlling Shareholder - Druckenwell Arms Corporation
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| Senator_Ordan | Date: Friday, 21 Sep 2012, 8:39 AM | Message # 11 |
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| The notion that the Sluissi don't allow their bizarre quasi religious "artistic" regard for their craft effect efficiency is just not true.
Allow me to quote the Encyclopedia Galactica on Sluis Van Shipyards "However, because the Sluissi found shipbuilding to be akin to a form of art (in addition to their rather ponderous system of bureaucracy), they are also considered to one of the slowest shipyards in the galaxy."
Senator Hubert Ordan
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| Toben-Domon | Date: Friday, 21 Sep 2012, 8:43 AM | Message # 12 |
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| It's never become religious at all, Senator Ordan. It's artistic. Quite a difference there, as we aren't worshiping anything.
If we are quoting the Encyclopedia Galactica though, I refer to the article on the Sluissi themselves: "The Sluissi were extremely methodical, and worked extremely slowly at their work. To them, starship construction was an art form. Although jobs done by Sluissi always took longer than expected, most clients were willing to be patient, because Sluissi technicians could make improvements upon or salvage vessels when no other mechanics could. Even the Empire realized that rushing a Sluissi operation was a bad idea."
Toben Domon
Senator, Sluis Van
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Friday, 21 Sep 2012, 8:45 AM | Message # 13 |
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| Gentlebeings, this has gotten far, far out of hand. Let's try to get back to the point at hand, if we can?
It seems Alsakan and Monor II have their own accord, Druckenwell wants the rights to that batch of synthetic cirrifog back and all can be settled quickly and efficiently.
Alyn Stark
Lord of Kinyov
Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy
Head of House Malos (former)
Licensed bounty hunter
Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering
Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate
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| Senator_Ordan | Date: Friday, 21 Sep 2012, 8:53 AM | Message # 14 |
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| I'd not spend extra time waiting for the artistic sense and bureaucracy of aliens can be satisfied! Maybe it's this pairing with the larger and more efficient shipyards that has yielded Anaxes the most efficient planetary military in the Galaxy.
Senator Hubert Ordan
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Friday, 21 Sep 2012, 8:57 AM | Message # 15 |
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| Most efficient for the moment, Senator Ordan. We all know you have bigger and better ships than anyone else. Can we get back to the matter at hand?
Alyn Stark
Lord of Kinyov
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Head of House Malos (former)
Licensed bounty hunter
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Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate
Civilian Medal of Honor recipient
Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
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