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| Mrash | Date: Friday, 10 Aug 2012, 5:57 PM | Message # 46 |
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| Mr. Stark I find your thoughts and questions to be Core-ist in nature, discriminating against worlds that are less well off than other worlds. It is this same question that could be used to ask what does Naboo have to offer to the Empire, what does Vjun have to offer. Dosha is poor in natural ore deposits, we have no capability to establish massive foundries like other worlds. Our centers of learning are the deserts, grasslands and mountains where the next generation of Trandoshans are taught how to hunt.
Mrash
Lord of Hsskhor
War Chief of Trandosha
Master of the Mytaranor Sector
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Friday, 10 Aug 2012, 6:08 PM | Message # 47 |
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| Senator-elect, it may startle you then to learn I am from the Outer Rim, and my thoughts are hardly Core-ist. If they come across as such though, it is simply because I put the Empire at the forefront of my concerns. If Trandosha is more of a drain upon the Empire than a contributing member, then I could hardly in good conscience back it joining the Senate with its own senator. Indeed, it might better suit the Mytaranor Sector to have a different senator for the sector, though that is hardly my call to make.
Naboo, I believe, offers great cultural art and architecture to the galaxy, rendering it productive in both sales and aesthetics. It is, I believe, one of the features that has kept Naboo so popular through the years, although I am sure it offers a great many more things. Representative Vanden could elaborate far better than I. Vjun as well offers it's well-made tunics and acid beets and has proven itself to be a worthy ally of those worlds along the Outer Rim. Senator Oriel could elaborate here further as well.
From your description though, it seems all Trandosha has to offer are hunters and... well, as you said, slavers and mercenaries. As such, while I could see Trandosha having a representative seat in the Mytaranor Sector delegation, I cannot see Trandosha as having the actual senatorial seat itself. Also, with a population of only forty-two billion, this is an awfully small planet to represent an entire sector.
Alyn Stark
Lord of Kinyov
Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy
Head of House Malos (former)
Licensed bounty hunter
Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering
Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate
Civilian Medal of Honor recipient
Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
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| Cyrnorsil_Vuhrakk | Date: Friday, 10 Aug 2012, 6:51 PM | Message # 48 |
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| Mrash | Date: Friday, 10 Aug 2012, 6:53 PM | Message # 49 |
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| (No worries new fellow. It's perfectly okay to make a mistake now and again.)
Mr. Stark I highly doubt that the Empire is at the forefront of your "concerns." Your view that a world shouldnt have representation in the Empire isn't going to make you any friends. Dosha has been a more productive member of the Galactic community than Lorrd ever has. You are a world of former slaves, supposedly "liberated" by Anarchist Jedi that sought to overthrow the proper government of the Galaxy which allowed the great Empire to form. All your world has to offer is lackadaisical graduates and Jedi supporters. Dosha may be a small world, yet it is a great world, one that has given risen to the highest forms of Mercenaries, Slavers and Bounty Hunters, some of the greatest that the galaxy has seen.
I am surprised that a world that was was supposedly "freed" by these Anarchist Jedi was even given a Representative seat, a world of little note, and possibly of an even smaller population than Dosha, and yet you've a seat in this Senate. A seat from which you are advocating that a world should not be allowed to represent itself nor those that have looked to it to do the same.
You are correct though in one aspect Mr. Stark, you do not have the call to make to say if a world should or should not have a representative in this Senate. I'm sure if you did have that power there would only be those worlds that you approved of, which I'm sure would make the Empire function less effectively. Of course though you have the Empire in the forefront of your "concerns" and yet you would seek to prevent an Imperial world from joining the Imperial Senate. You would rather silence an entire Sector, or probably see it represented by a filthy Wookie, than allow it to have a voice.
Mrash
Lord of Hsskhor
War Chief of Trandosha
Master of the Mytaranor Sector
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| Johannes_Oswaldt | Date: Saturday, 11 Aug 2012, 12:54 PM | Message # 50 |
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| Is this true, Stark? You want a Wookiee senator of the Mytarnor Sector? The Wookiees are dangerous animals, and Trandosha has held Kashyyyk in check for generations. Kashyyyk is also in open rebellion against the Empire... This is the perfect time for a Senator of the Myrtanor Sector who is dependably anti-Wookiee. And need I remind you Stark that Trandosha is a critical part of a critical industry to the Empire? If you have the Empire's interests in mind you should start by dropping your opposition to slavery. As far as nonhumans go, I'll take a Trandoshan over a Lorrdian any day of the week.
Johannes Oswaldt
Senator and Governor of Eriadu
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Sunday, 12 Aug 2012, 11:26 AM | Message # 51 |
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| Your argument is a tad hard to understand, Senator-elect. If I am to believe what you are throwing against Lorrd, it is the fact that in the distant past, over three thousand years ago, a Jedi at the head of a Republic taskforce liberated Lorrd and as such, that makes us all fans of the Jedi? Preposterous, Senator-elect, simply preposterous. As such, you cannot tie us to the Jedi in any way, shape or form.\
Perhaps as well, being a possible Senator, you should consult a galactic map; Lorrd boasts a little over a billion inhabitants. Hardly comprable to the more populous Core Worlds, of course, but quite good sized for being so distant on the Rim.
That being said, I won't stand to be fully insulted by a lizard like yourself, and if I must drop the diplomatic demeanor to get my point across, I certainly shall. First off, I do not believe I have come out and condemned slavery in this argument; I simply wish to see what more Trandosha can offer other than thugs and slavers. I've hardly condemned the validity of the slave trade within the Galactic Empire. Furthermore, I would more than welcome the Myrtanor Sector into the Senate. Perhaps with the Randoni as the actual senators, rather than an alien like yourself, Mrash.
Senator Oswaldt, I should obviously expect you to chime in here in the defense of an alien. It's odd, somewhat, but not unexpected. As well, you should hardly try to paint me as a lover of those furry, foul-tempered and even more foul-smelling creatures. As I've said, the human inhabitants of the sector in the form of the Randoni should have a say in this as well.
That being said, I'd likely take a Trandoshan over yourself any day of the week, Oswaldt.
Alyn Stark
Lord of Kinyov
Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy
Head of House Malos (former)
Licensed bounty hunter
Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering
Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate
Civilian Medal of Honor recipient
Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
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| Johannes_Oswaldt | Date: Sunday, 12 Aug 2012, 1:55 PM | Message # 52 |
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| Into that sort of thing, are you Stark? And any day of the week, too? That's stamina, I'll give you that.
As for "siding with an alien," where there's two aliens (you and this Trandoshan) I can be choosy.
Nice to see you betraying your kind and supporting a human Senator of the Mytanor Sector though. If there's a qualified man for the job, of course I'd support him. But if it comes down to a Trandoshan or a Wookiee, here too I can be choosy and support this Mrash... thing. (No offense, Mrash. You're alright)
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And Stark.. that's Governor Oswaldt, boy.
Johannes Oswaldt
Senator and Governor of Eriadu
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| Mrash | Date: Sunday, 12 Aug 2012, 2:49 PM | Message # 53 |
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| Mr. Stark, perhaps you should listen to your own advice, the planet of Randon is filled with aliens, Wookiees, Lanniks, Bothans and Bimms. It was the humans of Randon that requested that the Trandoshans represent them in the Senate as well as help clean up those alien riff raft on their world. You are merely voting against Dosha being the representative because unlike your world that is nothing less than a waste land of deserts, ice and snow, our world is filled with mountains, seas, and grasslands. We have more potential on our world that Lorrd does. I find it disturbing that you are voting out of spite and claiming that it is because you have the concerns of the Empire at mind and would be willing to support a representative from a world that is already choked by aliens. A world that has already requested the aid of the Trandoshan people.
Governor Oswaldt, I believe that the Trandoshan tribes have already gathered a gift for you. There should be a message arriving at your office shortly to get the terms of delivery hammered out.
Mrash
Lord of Hsskhor
War Chief of Trandosha
Master of the Mytaranor Sector
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Sunday, 12 Aug 2012, 5:37 PM | Message # 54 |
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| Ah, but you see, Mrash, you neglected to inform us that the humans of Randon were backing you as an appointed senator. It is omissions like this that cause problems within the Senate. Had I known that you had human backing, I would have long ago welcomed you into the Senate with little or no issue. I do still have the best interests of the Empire in mind, and trying to state that your world has more potential because Lorrd has deserts, ice and snow is simply petty, sir. Simply petty. I like to think it produces hardier people if nothing else. At the end of the day, it tends to be the learned men who order the mercenaries about anyway.
Since you do indeed have the backing of the humans of your sector, I shall put aside my concerns and welcome you into the Senate.
Alyn Stark
Lord of Kinyov
Senior Captain, Retired, Republic Navy
Head of House Malos (former)
Licensed bounty hunter
Majority shareholder, Lorrd Engineering
Owner, Stark Defense Conglomerate
Civilian Medal of Honor recipient
Representative, Lorrd (10 BBY-9 BBY)
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| Eli_Fitzgerald | Date: Monday, 13 Aug 2012, 11:14 AM | Message # 55 |
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| Mr. Mrash, do you agree with the 90% of the Senate that voted in favor of the Resolution Against the Slave Trade? If not, is it because you put the economy of Trandosha first, before individual liberty? And if so, as a followup, is this the sort of being who should represent the worlds of the Mytaranor Sector in a democratic forum? Does the majority of the Sector agree with Trandosha's self-serving position on slavery? 90% of the Senate oppose it, after all.
Eli Fitzgerald
Senator of Ralltiir (10 BBY—Present)
"I was elected to do some flamethrowing in the Senate. To a light a fire under those Senators and make it hot for them."
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| Mrash | Date: Wednesday, 15 Aug 2012, 2:10 PM | Message # 56 |
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| Senator Fitzgerald, I have to disagree with that Resolution, purely on the sole basis that it cripples the Economy of Trandosha. If we are to move forward to an eventual outcome of removing slavery as a means on Dosha to survive, we must first have a strong economic base from which we can begin to enact small changes to lead to larger ones. This is one of those situations in which I must put the economy of Dosha first else Dosha's economy will buckle and crumble and prevent us from taking any steps forward. As for your follow up, are you suggesting that because I lead a world that is known for it's slavers that it, nor those in the Mytaranor Sector which support Dosha deserve a voice merely because of slavery. Many of the worlds in the Mytaranor Sector have requested we represent the Sector instead of a Wookie. Face it Senator Fitzgerald, there are times where slavery is a necessary evil, and this is one of those times. Dosha's economy thrives on it and must continue to do so while we enact small changes on the local level before we go to those changes on a world scale. We will follow the Imperial Decree A-SL-4557.607.232 and our vessels shall be protected as we carry out the Imperial Decree.
As a bit of information though, the Trandoshan Slavers treat our captives with dignity and respect. They are well fed and cared for while in our care and under our watchful eye. Many of the slaves that we transport are not forced into slavery, many are indentured servants, prisoners that are providing work instead of just sitting in cells and draining the worlds of the Mytaranor Sector and the Empire of credits spent on their upkeep, as well as people sold by their own family to pay for debts or provide a boost in their life through the signings of slavery contracts for a set period of years.
Mrash
Lord of Hsskhor
War Chief of Trandosha
Master of the Mytaranor Sector
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| LomenRyuun | Date: Thursday, 16 Aug 2012, 9:29 AM | Message # 57 |
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| I have not spoken yet to this point largely because the inclusion or exclusion of Trandosha to the Senate does not actually affect Druckenwell one way or another. However, given the Trandoshan capacity and widespread knowledge of being quick to anger and a penchant for aggression, I do find it quite hard to believe you treat your captives with dignity and respect. Wherever you find your pound of flesh, I care not, but at least be honest about some things, Senator-elect.
Lomen Ryuun
Senator, Doldur Sector
Senator, Druckenwell
Representative, Monor II (10 BBY - 9 BBY)
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Representative, Boranall
Representative, Therenor Prime
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| Mrash | Date: Thursday, 16 Aug 2012, 5:30 PM | Message # 58 |
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| Senator Ryuun, while the Trandoshan people are known for their anger and aggression, just because you believe it hard that we do not treat our captives with dignity and respect, it doesnt make it any less true. Is it any less true for a being that believes music doesnt exist mean that it doesnt truly exist. To turn around though and call it an out right lie is a low blow.
Mrash
Lord of Hsskhor
War Chief of Trandosha
Master of the Mytaranor Sector
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| Senator_Cambrist | Date: Thursday, 16 Aug 2012, 8:59 PM | Message # 59 |
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| Senator-elect, humor me please. Slavery is your native industry, it's fair to say. Is not slavery (as Trandosha practices it with Imperial dispensation) perfectly legal? And is it fair to deny a world representation in this Senate simply because one doesn't like its native industry, even if it's perfectly legal?
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| Mrash | Date: Thursday, 16 Aug 2012, 9:48 PM | Message # 60 |
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| Senator Cambrist, the native industry of Dosha is slavery, though out of necessity more than a want, and it is practiced legally under Imperial dispensation, which in turn does make slavery legal under the Empire. I do not believe it is fair to deny a world representation in the Imperial Senate just because another Senator doesnt like or approve of a worlds native industry.
Mrash
Lord of Hsskhor
War Chief of Trandosha
Master of the Mytaranor Sector
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